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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: g00ru]
#18971896 - 10/13/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i wanted to click all of the above
jesus is a collaboration of everything that was and everything that will be
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: koraks]
#18971930 - 10/13/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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koraks said: You are aware that Christians were actively and violently prosecuted until the 4th century, right? How does that relate to making Jews fit in with the Romans?
Yes I am, I think Paul was the one trying to merge judaism with roman paganism, not Roman officials. Looking back I wasn't very clear about that. In the late second century Justin Martyr wrote about the disturbing parallels between Christianity and roman paganism, specifically Mythraism iirc. He decided that the devil must have gone back in time and written the pagan stories of the Christ figure long in advance as a way to mislead potential believers.
The persecution of Christians mostly took place on a local level to keep the peace, the Roman state was not directly or openly opposed to it except under Nero. There is also evidence that many of the Christians who were fed to lions and such actually volunteered as a means to achieve their martyr's crown, in some misguided attempt similar to modern Jihadists.
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Bill_Oreilly said: That's what I believe. If you look back at the timeline it just doesn't add up. Jesus was not mentioned for years after his whole story than all of a sudden he took over. Makes no sense whatsoever.
That said, I wont say anything for sure. Anything is possible.
Anything is not possible. If the son of God walked the earth for thirty years I think the super civilization next door with the immaculate records and libraries of historical documents, he'd be mentioned at least once.
Sure, the Bible has some good messages. There's also verses about god sending bears to kill children for simply laughing.
If you want to live your life as a good person, just be a good person. Don't use some fictional character to worship like a weird comic book fanatic.
I think the world would have figured out that killing and stealing is wrong without the gospel...
Well I would bet statistics say that a child raised In religion is a lot more likely to be a 'good' person than a child raised an atheist.
And maybe anything isn't possible, but if science believes that everything was created by a couple of rocks smashing against eachother then I can believe a long-haired hippy that knew some shit existed 2,000 years ago.
And nobody was talking about whether the bible has good messages and nobody was talking about bears. This reminds me of the 'flying spaghetti monster' atheists bring up for no reason. Now youre bringing up bears.
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I was just researching why they changed the sabbath day from sat to sun....There is too much info out there at least right off the bat. It was a half assed search during football commercials...
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UltraVisitor said: TL;DR : nigga owes me 12 bucks.
you gonna get banned bro 
for real? even without the er?
Yes man its fucking bullshit but I got banned for it once. I'm just givin you the heads up
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Bill_Oreilly said: Well I would bet statistics say that a child raised In religion is a lot more likely to be a 'good' person than a child raised an atheist.
And maybe anything isn't possible, but if science believes that everything was created by a couple of rocks smashing against eachother then I can believe a long-haired hippy that knew some shit existed 2,000 years ago.
And nobody was talking about whether the bible has good messages and nobody was talking about bears. This reminds me of the 'flying spaghetti monster' atheists bring up for no reason. Now youre bringing up bears.
The first statement is utterly worthless conjecture without the definition of 'good' spelled out. I would take your bet under any reasonable definition, but ofc I won't expect one.
The second statement does a really good job punctuating the lack of understanding of science or even general education among believers. Science says nothing of the sort.
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Bill_Oreilly said: That's what I believe. If you look back at the timeline it just doesn't add up. Jesus was not mentioned for years after his whole story than all of a sudden he took over. Makes no sense whatsoever.
That said, I wont say anything for sure. Anything is possible.
Anything is not possible. If the son of God walked the earth for thirty years I think the super civilization next door with the immaculate records and libraries of historical documents, he'd be mentioned at least once.
Sure, the Bible has some good messages. There's also verses about god sending bears to kill children for simply laughing.
If you want to live your life as a good person, just be a good person. Don't use some fictional character to worship like a weird comic book fanatic.
I think the world would have figured out that killing and stealing is wrong without the gospel...
Well I would bet statistics say that a child raised In religion is a lot more likely to be a 'good' person than a child raised an atheist.
Odd, I would bet the opposite.
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who can say? it's obvious that people do bad things in religion's name...i don't think it matters if you're religious or not but I do know that Jesus helps you be a good person...
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: g00ru]
#18972084 - 10/13/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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g00ru said: who can say? it's obvious that people do bad things in religion's name...i don't think it matters if you're religious or not but I do know that Jesus helps you be a good person...
Actually you CAN say. Atheists are in jail significantly less often.
https://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+jail+population&oq=atheist+jail&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.5654j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
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g00ru said: who can say? it's obvious that people do bad things in religion's name...i don't think it matters if you're religious or not but I do know that Jesus helps you be a good person...
Actually you CAN say. Atheists are in jail significantly less often.
https://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+jail+population&oq=atheist+jail&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.5654j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
actually being in jail doesn't make you a bad person, as if you can freaking find the value in people through statistics...peeshaw!
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: g00ru]
#18972111 - 10/13/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This pretty much sums up my view of Jesus: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451087/American-Bible-scholar-claims-ancient-confessions-prove-story-Jesus-Christ-entirely-fabricated-Roman-aristocrats.html
His story was totally fabricated from a series of other stories that actually occurred. That way there would be real accounts of "his" experiences, even though they were the experiences of other people.
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Watch the link in my sig. Thats how I look at it.
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g00ru said: who can say? it's obvious that people do bad things in religion's name...i don't think it matters if you're religious or not but I do know that Jesus helps you be a good person...
Actually you CAN say. Atheists are in jail significantly less often.
https://www.google.com/search?q=atheist+jail+population&oq=atheist+jail&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.5654j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
a lot of people convert while in jail
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jesus is the personification of a specific piece of memetic evolution
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Bill_Oreilly said: That's what I believe. If you look back at the timeline it just doesn't add up. Jesus was not mentioned for years after his whole story than all of a sudden he took over. Makes no sense whatsoever.
That said, I wont say anything for sure. Anything is possible.
Anything is not possible. If the son of God walked the earth for thirty years I think the super civilization next door with the immaculate records and libraries of historical documents, he'd be mentioned at least once.
Sure, the Bible has some good messages. There's also verses about god sending bears to kill children for simply laughing.
If you want to live your life as a good person, just be a good person. Don't use some fictional character to worship like a weird comic book fanatic.
I think the world would have figured out that killing and stealing is wrong without the gospel...
Well I would bet statistics say that a child raised In religion is a lot more likely to be a 'good' person than a child raised an atheist.
And maybe anything isn't possible, but if science believes that everything was created by a couple of rocks smashing against eachother then I can believe a long-haired hippy that knew some shit existed 2,000 years ago.
And nobody was talking about whether the bible has good messages and nobody was talking about bears. This reminds me of the 'flying spaghetti monster' atheists bring up for no reason. Now youre bringing up bears.
Statistics eh?
What if I told you Christians make up about 80% of the prison population and atheists about 1%.
Looks like the Christian parents aren't doing so well. They also tend to have the highest rate of children born out of wedlock.
Hmmm.....
and statistically, atheists have higher IQs and more years of education.
So please, tell me again how society would crumble if not for the Bible...I guess the humans who lived for 10s of thousands of years before the Biblr was written were all a bunch of heathen scum, with no morals whatsoever.
Newsflash bro: Christianity was extremely late to the game, and just copied all the other players to get popular.
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: morrowasted] 2
#18972221 - 10/13/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Jesus Christ is our savior!
Get with it.
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morrowasted said: jesus is the personification of a specific piece of memetic evolution
that's basically true...transfiguration of christ was the moment of that occurring fully
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: g00ru]
#18972278 - 10/13/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: jesus is the personification of a specific piece of memetic evolution
that's basically true...transfiguration of christ was the moment of that occurring fully
i don't see why this question is so complicated for most people
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