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Your View about JESUS
    #18970597 - 10/12/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You think jesus is/or was
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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: Free.Your.Mind] * 2
    #18970607 - 10/13/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

none of the above. he was just a person.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18970618 - 10/13/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

the answer is in my sig


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: zZZz]
    #18970650 - 10/13/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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the answer is in my sig




what is your view on the bible?


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18970654 - 10/13/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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none of the above. he was just a person.




how could someone have such a impact on history if was just a mere person?


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #18970663 - 10/13/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

because a bunch of people made him important. then they  made up stories (heavily facetious) stories about the parables that Jesus taught.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: Free.Your.Mind]
    #18970671 - 10/13/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Free.Your.Mind said:
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zZZz said:
the answer is in my sig




what is your view on the bible?




i think everyone can learn at least one good thing from it, and no not through negativity.. i see you in the bushes atheist. :creepylurker:


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: zZZz]
    #18970677 - 10/13/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Zombie jew


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: zZZz]
    #18970687 - 10/13/13 12:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zZZz said:
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Free.Your.Mind said:
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zZZz said:
the answer is in my sig




what is your view on the bible?




i think everyone can learn at least one good thing from it, and no not through negativity.. i see you in the bushes atheist. :creepylurker:




to think there is no creator is foolish

the earth is to perfect in a sense that the conditions are just right from life
perfect condition for life = intelligent design


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18970688 - 10/13/13 12:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
none of the above. he was just a person.




This. He was just some dude.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: zZZz]
    #18970690 - 10/13/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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Free.Your.Mind said:
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zZZz said:
the answer is in my sig



and no not through negativity.. i see you in the bushes atheist. :creepylurker:



:kingcrankey:
Although one could learn something I would rather they try somewhere else considering the bible's punishment for a man who (heterosexually) rapes a virgin is that he has to marry her.


Edited by NotTheDevil (10/13/13 12:30 AM)


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: NotTheDevil] * 5
    #18970693 - 10/13/13 12:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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perfect condition for life = intelligent design



There is no numerical value that can express the level of fail in this statement.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18970703 - 10/13/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Idk I thought Jesus was a pretty sub par football player. His tackling form was atrocious.



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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: NotTheDevil] * 1
    #18970713 - 10/13/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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NotTheDevil said:
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Free.Your.Mind said:
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zZZz said:
the answer is in my sig



and no not through negativity.. i see you in the bushes atheist. :creepylurker:



:kingcrankey:
Although one could learn something I would rather they try somewhere else considering the bible's punishment for a man who (heterosexually) rapes a virgin is that he has to marry her.





hey im not saying it's perfect. there is some stuff in there that puzzles me. but i've found bits of wisdom in it almost similar to the wisdom you would find in buddhist philosophy.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: zZZz]
    #18970753 - 10/13/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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NotTheDevil said:
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NotTheDevil said:
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NotTheDevil said:
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NotTheDevil said:
Although one could learn something I would rather they try somewhere else considering the bible's punishment for a man who (heterosexually) rapes a virgin is that he has to marry her.





hey im not saying it's perfect. there is some stuff in there that puzzles me. but i've found bits of wisdom in it almost similar to the wisdom you would find in buddhist philosophy.




just as you are not saying perfect I am not saying it is completely wrong, simply stating that although there is some good stuff in there it is best not to take it as a strong moral authority



You have too many nested quotes in your post. You can only have 4 subsequent nested quotes.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: mellowparty]
    #18970754 - 10/13/13 12:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: Free.Your.Mind] * 1
    #18970772 - 10/13/13 01:00 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your one graph argument does not address my remark. You seem to be unable to comprehend the idea that life evolved around the conditions which made the conditions appear perfect.

In fact life itself changed those conditions. Oxygen was not always perfect for breathing, it was actually extremely toxic early on in the evolution of Earth. It was cyanobacteria that took advantage of the sun's electromagnetic radiation to gain reductive power and expelled oxygen as a toxic byproduct.

I suggest you read on some serious biochemistry and genetics and cut the creationism crap, its gonna give you brain damage.


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: mellowparty]
    #18970781 - 10/13/13 01:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Your one graph argument does not address my remark. You seem to be unable to comprehend the idea that life evolved around the conditions which made the conditions appear perfect.

In fact life itself changed those conditions. Oxygen was not always perfect for breathing, it was actually extremely toxic early on in the evolution of Earth. It was cyanobacteria that took advantage of the sun's electromagnetic radiation to gain reductive power and expelled oxygen as a toxic byproduct.

I suggest you read on some serious biochemistry and genetics and cut the creationism crap, its gonna give you brain damage.



In fact all it seems to show is that people realized calling themselves creationists makes them sound retarded so they switched to a more scientific sounding name


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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: mellowparty]
    #18970799 - 10/13/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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perfect condition for life = intelligent design



There is no numerical value that can express the level of fail in this statement.




"there is less than 1 chance in 1 million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion exists that even one planet like earth could ever exist and support life as earth supports it if the only mechanisms available are natural mechanisms. Now remember how statisticians define what is known as “statistical zero”:

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Correct planetary distance from star
Correct inclination of planetary orbit
Correct axis tilt of planet
Correct rate of change of axial tilt
Correct period and size of axis tilt variation
Correct planetary rotation period
Correct rate of change in planetary rotation period
Correct planetary revolution period
Correct planetary orbit eccentricity
Correct rate of change of planetary orbital eccentricity
Correct rate of change of planetary inclination
Correct period and size of eccentricity variation
Correct period and size of inclination variation
Correct precession in planet’s rotation
Correct rate of change in planet’s precession
Correct number of moons
Correct mass and distance of moon
Correct surface gravity (escape velocity)
Correct tidal force from sun and moon
Correct magnetic field
Correct rate of change & character of change in magnetic field
Correct albedo (planet reflectivity)
Correct density density of interstellar and interplanetary dust particles in vicinity of life-support planet
Correct reducing strength of planet’s primordial mantle
Correct thickness of crust
Correct timing of birth of continent formation
Correct oceans-to-continents ratio
Correct rate of change in oceans to continents ratio
Correct global distribution of continents
Correct frequency, timing, & extent of ice ages
Correct frequency, timing, & extent of global snowball events
Correct silicate dust annealing by nebular shocks
Correct asteroidal & cometary collision rate
Correct change in asteroidal & cometary collision rates
Correct rate of change in asteroidal & cometary collision rates
Correct mass of body colliding with primordial Earth
Correct timing of body colliding with primordial Earth
Correct location of body’s collision with primordial Earth
Correct position & mass of Jupiter relative to Earth
Correct major planet eccentricities
Correct major planet orbital instabilities
Correct drift and rate of drift in major planet distances
Correct number & distribution of planets
Correct distance of gas giant planets from mean motion resonances
Correct orbital separation distances among inner planets
Correct oxygen quantity in the atmosphere
Correct nitrogen quantity in the atmosphere
Correct carbon monoxide quantity in the atmosphere
Correct chlorine quantity in the atmosphere
Correct aerosol particle density emitted from the forests
Correct cobalt quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct arsenic quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct copper quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct boron quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct cadmium quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct calcium quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct flourine quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct iodine quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct magnesium quantity in the earth’s crust
Correct nickel quantity in crust
Correct phosphorus quantity in crust
Correct potassium quantity in crust
Correct tin quantity in crust
Correct zinc quantity in crust
Correct molybdenum quantity in crust
Correct vanadium quantity in crust
Correct chromium quantity in crust
Correct selenium quantity in crust
Correct iron quantity in oceans
Correct tropospheric ozone quantity
Correct stratospheric ozone quantity
Correct mesospheric ozone quantity
Correct water vapor level in atmosphere
Correct oxygen to nitrogen ratio in atmosphere
Correct quantity of greenhouse gases in atmosphere
Correct quantity of greenhouse gases in atmosphere
Correct rate of change in greenhouse gases in atmosphere
Correct poleward heat transport in atmosphere by mid-latitude storms
Correct quantity of forest & grass fires
Correct quantity of sea salt aerosols in troposphere
Correct soil mineralization
Correct quantity of anaeorbic bacteria in the oceans
Correct quantity of aerobic bacteria in the oceans
Correct quantity of anaerobic nitrogen-fixing bacteria in the early oceans
Correct quantity, variety, and timing of sulfate-reducing bacteria
Correct quantity of geobacteraceae
Correct quantity of aerobic photoheterotrophic bacteria
Correct quantity of decomposer bacteria in soil
Correct quantity of mycorrhizal fungi in soil
Correct quantity of nitrifying microbes in soil
Correct quantity & timing of vascular plant introductions
Correct quantity, timing, & placement of carbonate-producing animals
Correct quantity, timing, & placement of methanogens
Correct phosphorus and iron absorption by banded iron formations
Correct quantity of soil sulfur
Correct ratio of electrically conducting inner core radius to radius of the adjacent turbulent fluid shell
Correct ratio of core to shell (see above) magnetic diffusivity
Correct magnetic Reynold’s number of the shell (see above)
Correct elasticity of iron in the inner core
Correct electromagnetic Maxwell shear stresses in the inner core
Correct core precession frequency for planet
Correct rate of interior heat loss for planet
Correct quantity of sulfur in the planet’s core
Correct quantity of silicon in the planet’s core
Correct quantity of water at subduction zones in the crust
Correct quantity of high pressure ice in subducting crustal slabs
Correct hydration rate of subducted minerals
Correct water absorption capacity of planet’s lower mantle
Correct tectonic activity
Correct rate of decline in tectonic activity
Correct volcanic activity
Correct rate of decline in volcanic activity
Correct location of volcanic eruptions
Correct continental relief
Correct viscosity at Earth core boundaries
Correct viscosity of lithosphere
Correct thickness of mid-mantle boundary
Correct rate of sedimentary loading at crustal subduction zones
Correct biomass to comet infall ratio
Correct regularity of cometary infall
Correct number, intensity, and location of hurricanes
Correct intensity of primordial cosmic superwinds
Correct number of smoking quasars
Correct formation of large terrestrial planet in the presence of two or more gas giant planets
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Correct total mass of Oort Cloud objects
Correct mass distribution of Oort Cloud objects
Correct air turbulence in troposphere
Correct quantity of sulfate aerosols in troposphere
Correct quantity of actinide bioreducing bacteria
Correct quantity of phytoplankton
Correct hydrothermal alteration of ancient oceanic basalts
Correct quantity of iodocarbon-emitting marine organisms
Correct location of dislocation creep relative to diffusion creep in and near the crust-mantle boundary (determines mantle convection dynamics)
Correct size of oxygen sinks in the planet’s crust
Correct size of oxygen sinks in the planet’s mantle
Correct mantle plume production
Correct average rainfall precipitation
Correct variation and timing of average rainfall precipitation
Correct atmospheric transparency
Correct atmospheric pressure
Correct atmospheric viscosity
Correct atmospheric electric discharge rate
Correct atmospheric temperature gradient
Correct carbon dioxide level in atmosphere
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Correct Q-value (rigidity) of planet during its early history
Correct variation in Q-value of planet during its early history
Correct migration of planet during its formation in the protoplanetary disk
Correct viscosity gradient in protoplanetary disk
Correct frequency of late impacts by large asteroids and comets
Correct size of the carbon sink in the deep mantle of the planet
Correct ratio of dual water molecules, (H2O)2, to single water molecules, H 2O, in the troposphere
Correct quantity of volatiles on and in Earth-sized planet in the habitable zone
Correct triggering of El Nino events by explosive volcanic eruptions
Correct time window between the peak of kerogen production and the appearance of intelligent life
Correct time window between the production of cisterns in the planet’s crust that can effectively collect and store petroleum and natural gas and the appearance of intelligent life
Correct efficiency of flows of silicate melt, hypersaline hydrothermal fluids, and hydrothermal vapors in the upper crust
Correct efficiency of ocean pumps that return nutrients to ocean surfaces
Correct sulfur and sulfate content of oceans
Correct orientation of continents relative to prevailing winds
Correct infall of buckminsterfullerenes from interplanetary and interstellar space upon surface of planet
Correct quantity of silicic acid in the oceans
Correct heat flow through the planet’s mantle from radiometric decay in planet’s core
Correct water absorption by planet’s mantle




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Re: Your View about JESUS [Re: Free.Your.Mind] * 4
    #18970841 - 10/13/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Free.Your.Mind, that was a good laugh (your source in particular). Thank you for that. It's cute how you think evolution isn't real. It really is.


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