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Hexendude1994
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Might have eaten wrong mushroom
#18970312 - 10/12/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I ate an amanita (it appeared..) which I thought to be Amanita flavoconia (possibly Amanita flavorubescens), but it was metallic gold-looking with dark yellow/brown warts, no fuzz on the base of the stem, and bruised pink/red/brown ish.. but I've been reading online and haven't found ANY golden amanita muscaria like the one I just ate so...did I just ingest the wrong kind??? what symptoms should I notice if it was a DEADLY mushroom? And what should I notice if it was a true amanita muscaria variation? (it was all heated and dried btw) please help
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970320 - 10/12/13 10:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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go buy activated charcoal and milk thistle extract like right now!!
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970323 - 10/12/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i forget the drill but i think its like 6 hours till you feel sick, then it goes away and comes back like a week later and then you gen liver failure
you need to flush your system and be in a hospital
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970324 - 10/12/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm asking what should I be feeling if it was the WRONG type?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970327 - 10/12/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would you eat an unidentified mushroom, especially of the amanita family? do you have any pictures?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970330 - 10/12/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long ago did you eat it? Were there other ones you get get photos of? Symptoms can take weeks to develop if it was deadly.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970332 - 10/12/13 10:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
hidenseek1 said: i forget the drill but i think its like 6 hours till you feel sick, then it goes away and comes back like a week later and then you gen liver failure
you need to flush your system and be in a hospital
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Everyone chill out and take a deep breath. If it was really staining red that is very, very good. Let's not jump into panic mode right away.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970347 - 10/12/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, seriously, do you have any pictures of the mushroom you ate? If there anything left of it or can you go back to the spot to find the same species to photograph, that would be helpful. You should be feeling at least a little drunken or sleepy, extreme nausea like being sea-sick is not uncommon for a. muscaria, but you should NOT be having any intense stomach pain or diarrhea. Try to get a pic of that mushroom or others fruiting in the exact same area before you go into full blown panic mode. What area are you in?
Edited by RiparianZoneJunky (10/12/13 10:57 PM)
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970348 - 10/12/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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he should still probly puke what he can right away and start loading on the activated charcoal to shit what he can, and liver protecting stuff like thistle wouldnt hurt
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Edited by hidenseek1 (10/12/13 10:57 PM)
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970354 - 10/12/13 10:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i ate brown amanita and red..but not much..how much did you eat?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: seadragon]
#18970362 - 10/12/13 11:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17246867#17246867
this might be worth a read, a bit lengthy though
alan rockerfella knows a expert who specializes in aminita poisonings, maybe pm him
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970388 - 10/12/13 11:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm almost certain it's Amanita flavorubescens it bruises red tasted like..meat kind of.. maybe chicken, but I'm not feeling anything and can't find any of the ones online I found in my yard. It was dark yellow/more gold metallic colored..
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970404 - 10/12/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wasn't WHITE, I'm not that stupid. And it bruised red ish.. and it seemed to grow near a birch (at least I think birch?) tree. I'm not sure if I'm feeling a placebo or not, and I had coffee 30 minutes ago so not sleepy feeling.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18970405 - 10/12/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damn dude that wasn't smart to eat it then try and identify it... Good luck
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Blindtheeye]
#18970411 - 10/12/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude I was sure of it, but then I started having my doubts and tried to find a gold metallic one on the internet and could not.. not being able to find a metallic dark gold amanita muscaria is what's bothering me so I don't know if what I ate was correct.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970412 - 10/12/13 11:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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o8u said: How long ago did you eat it? Were there other ones you get get photos of?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970431 - 10/12/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I ate it exactly 62 minutes ago and had half a cup of coffee afterwards. And I don't have a camera. I followed this guide http://www.shroomery.org/10224/Hunting-Fly-Agarics-in-North-America prior to picking them and I decided it was either Amanita flavorubescens OR Amanita flavoconia
only ONE of the eight mushrooms I've picked had a yellow stem, but the rest had a white stem, and were usually pale yellow capped OR very dark yellow/metallic gold and every single one of them had brown warts except for the one with a slightly yellow stem.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970438 - 10/12/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only reason I'm questioning if I ate the correct one is because I can't find any dark gold (mind you kind of metallic gold) and I'm not feeling very messed up.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970456 - 10/12/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Without more info, my best advice to you is to immediately induce vomiting and then get some activated charcoal. Your descriptions leave enough doubt in my mind that I can't rule out the possibility you consumed deadly toxins. Get it out of your system ASAP.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970468 - 10/12/13 11:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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o8u said: Without more info, my best advice to you is to immediately induce vomiting and then get some activated charcoal. Your descriptions leave enough doubt in my mind that I can't rule out the possibility you consumed deadly toxins. Get it out of your system ASAP.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970478 - 10/12/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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One more thing, I smoked some of these earlier and I felt strange, almost like a cannabis buzz like I've read, but I didn't smoke very much. Is that a sign it would have been legit?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970486 - 10/12/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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No. Induce vomiting. Now.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970498 - 10/12/13 11:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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could a hospital test blood for presence of bad mushroom?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970505 - 10/12/13 11:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Deed is done. I didn't mean to cause this kind of inconvenience. I read the guide but got a little worried now that I'm still completely sober. I hope it was the correct mushroom and I could have just not been affected.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: WhoManBeing]
#18970516 - 10/12/13 11:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not really. More info on what they would test is here. If dangerous toxins were consumed, the best course of action would be to get them out of the GI tract as soon as possible so no more toxins are absorbed. Minutes count.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970536 - 10/12/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Can anyone just help me figure out the exact one I ate instead of the toxins so we can verify if it was poisonous or not? It was brown/gold capped, brown warts, white gills, white stem that bruised red. Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia has to be one of those two
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970556 - 10/12/13 11:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm sorry but you aren't giving us enough information to give a confident ID. Induce vomiting. Seriously, your life may depend on it. Amatoxin poisoning is horrific and terribly painful. If you consumed dangerous toxins puking right now could save your life.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970561 - 10/12/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have been puking but almost nothing comes out, some small pieces here and there, I think I've 80% of material I consumed
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970564 - 10/12/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A. flavovonia does not bruise red.
I don't know if it is known whether the north american blushing amanitas contain the haemolytic toxin found in europe's A. rubescens.
I do not know that any blushing Amanita contains other toxins, but I do not suspect they do. I wouldn't gamble mylife on it though.
I also don't know which continent you are on.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
#18970569 - 10/12/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970608 - 10/13/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My advice is to seek medical intervention. I would be sure to let them know that you have consumed one of the bushing amanitas (raw?), that the edibility of the north american ones is in some doubt, and that the european species contains a heamolytic toxin.
It's probably unnessesary, but you only have one life so far as we know.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970615 - 10/13/13 12:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have vomited as much as I can. And it was a considerably small amount but I have felt nothing at all from it and couldn't find an exact color to it so.. I was in doubt. It was probably 1/8 of a medium/small cap.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970619 - 10/13/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dude, why would you come on here, asking what to do, and then not do what the majority of the people advise you to?
Don't just puke, INDUCE VOMITING. Mustard and warm water, a trip to the ER, yaknow, pretty much the drill when you eat unidentified mushrooms.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970622 - 10/13/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I puked it all up now..
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970624 - 10/13/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hexendude1994 said: It was probably 1/8 of a medium/small cap.
You're probably fine. Get a camera and post pictures in the future.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: o8u]
#18970637 - 10/13/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah like I said it was such a small amount even if it was the right one I doubt anyone would have been high off of it. I guess I just over thought what I should have felt. I'm embarrassed now.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970646 - 10/13/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just one more question.. if I am amatoxin sick somehow, what would I first feel? If I did eat the wrong one I'm going to ingest a good bit of hemp oil and rely on that to live..
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970656 - 10/13/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You'll be fine. You ate a small amount and it sounds like you got it out of your system. As long as you learn from your mistake and don't do it again there's nothing to be embarrassed about. People sometimes do dumb things. Idiots repeat them.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970661 - 10/13/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I tried to not be an idiot and read the guide instead of listening of retards say "look for a mushy u'd see on mario" I mean I knew there'd be variations, it's just the fact it looked close to what I wanted, descriptions matched, I just didn't feel it. Oh yeah, another question. Smoking these to test further wouldn't be a bad idea would it?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970662 - 10/13/13 12:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970668 - 10/13/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, you will knoiw for sure if youre fine in the next few days or so. Since some of them thar nasties like to have a delayed response to severe symptoms. Your dead way before you ever 'feel' ill.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970679 - 10/13/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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if you think you may have ingested a toxic mushroom, why wouldnt you seek medical treatment? waiting until you feel sick before you decide to go to the hospital isn't very wise. if you are worried, get help. what would it hurt? you have been given the best advice possible, listen to these guys, they know their shit. good luck
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
#18970686 - 10/13/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
canid said: Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970691 - 10/13/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It wasn't some random 'shroom. It was indeed an amanita, and I am certain it was a "blusher", just didn't feel an effect, so I vomited the small amount up. I think I over reacted, it was a small amount dude, and a small amount of a blusher, even if it was bad, couldn't hurt. Like the size of a quarter in your palm.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970692 - 10/13/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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who eats a mushroom BEFORE identifying it? bad call sir I hope your ok
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Zombi3]
#18970701 - 10/13/13 12:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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for the last time lol.. I identified it myself, just felt no effect.
I over reacted.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970707 - 10/13/13 12:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Either Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia I'm thinking flavoconia because it had no fuzzy stipe and had yellow/brown warts. The fact I felt nothing, or more placebo freaked me out, but I kept forgetting to keep in mind the actual quantity I had..very little.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970725 - 10/13/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ignore the people who aren't being particularly helpful for the moment. We'll just pretend they aren't here.
Anyway, I don't think that you should expect a muscaria like effect from any of the blushers.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970727 - 10/13/13 12:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah man i know it wasnt some random shroom and its obvious that you over reacted. you asked for help on a public forum and i mearly was stating my opinion. take it or leave it. but i meant no offense.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970733 - 10/13/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hexendude1994 said: Smoking these to test further wouldn't be a bad idea would it?
Yes it would be a bad idea, especially since you're still not sure of the species.
Stop being an ignorant twit and post pictures of any mushroom you're going to ingest or smoke in the future. If you can't do this then do yourself and the wider mushroom community a favour and stop all mushroom related activities. Take up knitting or some other activity where your mistakes wont kill you or your liver.
Sorry to sound harsh but you obviously miss the gravity of the situation you put yourself in.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: karode13]
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I'm trying to get technical with this.. I have been researching these mushrooms for a year now. I know a good bit about these.. I'm just asking if these toxins can be ingested through smoking.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18970751 - 10/13/13 12:54 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nobody here is going to tell you to smoke unidentified mushrooms. If they did I, or another moderator, would reprimand them.
Now if you posted a picture and it was properly identified then we could tell you what to do with it.
If you want to be technical about it then post a picture and fill out an id request.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: karode13]
#18970777 - 10/13/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll borrow a camera tomorrow. I just have too many of these growing in my area to disregard them and not try to ident. them.
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Stop your entire life and go to the ER right away. Only when they clear you, you're OK. You need liver tests and supportive treatment.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Asante]
#18971199 - 10/13/13 06:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Going to the ER would be the safest option from a medical viewpoint. However, if it was indeed one of the blushers (which it seems to be, going by the red staining) and he ate only 1/8 of a cap, then a trip to the ER would have economic ramifications that are much worse than any sickness that would ensue if the case is untreated.
OP, did you cook the mushroom or did you eat it raw? The haematoxins in blushing amanitas are broken down when they are cooked, eliminating the risk of anemia.
Either way, lots of overreaction once again in this thread.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18971234 - 10/13/13 06:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: for the last time lol.. I identified it myself.
no. you did not!! if you did, you would know what it was, which you do not!! you can't even give a half-assed description of said mushroom.
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Hexendude1994 said: It wasn't some random 'shroom. It was indeed an amanita, and I am certain it was a "blusher"
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Hexendude1994 said: Either Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia I'm thinking flavoconia because it had no fuzzy stipe and had yellow/brown warts.
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Hexendude1994 said: Can anyone just help me figure out the exact one I ate instead of the toxins so we can verify if it was poisonous or not? It was brown/gold capped, brown warts, white gills, white stem that bruised red. Amanita flavorubescens or Amanita flavoconia has to be one of those two
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Hexendude1994 said: The only reason I'm questioning if I ate the correct one is because I can't find any dark gold (mind you kind of metallic gold) and I'm not feeling very messed up.
all of the above statements completely contradict each other.
once again, please do not claim that "I identified it myself."
then, not only did you not learn your lesson from almost potentially killing yourself... you want to smoke said mushroom?? 
i don't want to be mean dood...but, you are a fucking idiot.
learn to respect fungi, or as stated, take up knitting!!
i'll introduce you to me grandmother...she can teach you!!
with that being said, if you DO want to TRY to id it...
you can start here: US - Great Smokies - Amanitaceae.org.
to me...it sounds like you might have eaten Amanita amerirubescens (which is likely toxic when consumed raw).
be more wise and cautious in the future buddy, with everything you do!!
good luck.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: bloodworm]
#18971349 - 10/13/13 08:12 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
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Hexendude1994 said: I tried to not be an idiot and read the guide instead of listening of retards say "look for a mushy u'd see on mario"
Not saying Nintendo should do field guides or anything but if you were using that image you couldn't go far wrong.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
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canid said: Don't be embarrassed, be wise.
I don't think you ate an amatoxin containing species, and as I said, I don't know if our blushers have the same haematoxin as the european blusher. If they do, I believe the expectation for any poisoning would be acute anemia.
If you get hemolytic anemia, icterus would follow shortly (i.e. yellowing of the whites of your eyes, dark yellow and/or brownish urine).
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: MycoMen]
#18971802 - 10/13/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sounds like you ate a blusher.
From all the pics I have seen A. pantherina does not have brown warts. Always white.
That is not much to go on.
OP said it bruised red.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Ganzig]
#18971947 - 10/13/13 11:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ganzig, who are you talking to??
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: koraks]
#18972110 - 10/13/13 12:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I heated the mushroom on a candle burner (hot enough to simmer water) until it was so dry it would break like a cracker. I was hoping to convert ibotenic acid to muscimol.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: bloodworm]
#18972129 - 10/13/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Relax, dude. I heated it. I didn't think the toxins would still be present after heating + smoking. Reading the guide, I broke it down into two different mushrooms but the fact that I didn't feel anything and that couldn't find any with the exact cap color worried me. I was just double checking after ingestion.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18972145 - 10/13/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: Relax, dude. I heated it. I didn't think the toxins would still be present after heating + smoking.
wait so you smoked them? i thought you ate them?
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Hexendude1994 said: I was just double checking after ingestion.
its the after part that scared most people i think, you should really double check while you have the actual mushroom, memory can play tricks
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#18972174 - 10/13/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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a lot of people advising to go to hospital. doesn't sound like such a bad idea, they're just looking out for you. an incentive to going to hospital could be acting very anxious and scoring some actual good dope that will get you high.
heck, it's not like your the first person to do such a thing. read couple years ago of a grandma who been picking mushrooms much her life that somehow poisoned herself and grandchildren. then, something to do with the medicine not being FDA approved and having to fly someone from Europe to administer medicine. sounded ridiculous, but some things do. YEA?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: WhoManBeing]
#18972262 - 10/13/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm fine now. Everything was heated, barely any was ingested, and was thrown up.
I'm not a novice, I made a mistake of second guessing myself and over reacting. This thread is getting redundant.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18972268 - 10/13/13 01:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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And for the record everything completely matched the guide I was looking at. I over reacted because I ate such a small amount and I wasn't feeling any euphoria. And again, it was not raw. Please guys, relax. I've made my own judgement and I will be taking pictures of what I picked.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18975029 - 10/14/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: I'm not a novice
The only thing that really worries me in this thread is that you really seem to think that you knew what you were doing. You obviously don't.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: koraks]
#18975230 - 10/14/13 04:27 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amatoxins aren't destroyed with heat. So that wouldn't help you if you got the wrong species altogether.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18975246 - 10/14/13 04:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: And for the record everything completely matched the guide I was looking at. I over reacted because I ate such a small amount and I wasn't feeling any euphoria. And again, it was not raw. Please guys, relax. I've made my own judgement and I will be taking pictures of what I picked.
So is that an apology to all the people who responded with concern or just a screw you guys I'm going home?
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Joie]
#18975648 - 10/14/13 08:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doesnt Chlorophyllum molybdites bruise a redish pink? Lets all hope you didnt consume that mushroom
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: makail100]
#18975653 - 10/14/13 08:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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makail100 said: Doesnt Chlorophyllum molybdites bruise a redish pink? Lets all hope you didnt consume that mushroom 
He'd know about it by now.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Untitled]
#18975663 - 10/14/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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He'd know about it and be over it by now in fact.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: karode13]
#18976404 - 10/14/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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karode13 said:
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Hexendude1994 said: Smoking these to test further wouldn't be a bad idea would it?
Yes it would be a bad idea, especially since you're still not sure of the species.
Stop being an ignorant twit and post pictures of any mushroom you're going to ingest or smoke in the future. If you can't do this then do yourself and the wider mushroom community a favour and stop all mushroom related activities. Take up knitting or some other activity where your mistakes wont kill you or your liver.
Sorry to sound harsh but you obviously miss the gravity of the situation you put yourself in.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18977058 - 10/14/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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"I'm trying to get technical with this.. I have been researching these mushrooms for a year now. I know a good bit about these.. I'm just asking if these toxins can be ingested through smoking."
Then you have done a poor job, and wasted your year. You need to take this hobby more seriously. Just a CURSORY web search would have informed you that you cant get a head change with blushers no matter what the intake method. Wrong chemicals bro. Check wiki (which is a lousy but somewhat informed source)...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blusher. Now check amanitas with ibotenic acid and muscimol. There are lots. Remember...Research to the rescue. Just my lowly opinion.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#18977106 - 10/14/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: I'm not a novice
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Ran-D]
#19091671 - 11/05/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guys. Calm the fuck down. Shit. I'm not an expert, but I still wouldn't go so far to call myself a novice. I've researched these blushers, and tried seeing if they're active and kept finding unsure reports. I smoked a good bit of what I picked and did in fact get a deep head change, that was one of the reasons I assumed it was an amanita. Please be more constructive next time.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#19091775 - 11/05/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please be more constructive next time.
i thought we were perfectly constructive
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Hexendude1994]
#19091785 - 11/05/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: Guys. Calm the fuck down. Shit. I'm not an expert, but I still wouldn't go so far to call myself a novice. I've researched these blushers, and tried seeing if they're active and kept finding unsure reports. I smoked a good bit of what I picked and did in fact get a deep head change, that was one of the reasons I assumed it was an amanita. Please be more constructive next time.
You are just so wrong about so many things it's hard to believe you're not a troll.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
#19091792 - 11/05/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just saw another ID request where you are asking if something collyboid is a "wavy cap". I assume you want to know if it is P. cyanescens? It looks nothing like any Psilocybe. I conclude you are indeed a novice.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: Ran-D]
#19091811 - 11/05/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ran-D said:
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Hexendude1994 said: Guys. Calm the fuck down. Shit. I'm not an expert, but I still wouldn't go so far to call myself a novice. I've researched these blushers, and tried seeing if they're active and kept finding unsure reports. I smoked a good bit of what I picked and did in fact get a deep head change, that was one of the reasons I assumed it was an amanita. Please be more constructive next time.
You are just so wrong about so many things it's hard to believe you're not a troll.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: jet li]
#19093663 - 11/06/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hexendude1994 said: Guys. Calm the fuck down. Shit. I'm not an expert, but I still wouldn't go so far to call myself a novice. I've researched these blushers, and tried seeing if they're active and kept finding unsure reports. I smoked a good bit of what I picked and did in fact get a deep head change, that was one of the reasons I assumed it was an amanita. Please be more constructive next time.
I'm sorry to say this, but you're being really fucking dumb. Many mushroom hunters are still considered "novice"-level, even after decades of hobby mycology. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I will also add that there is zero possibility of feeling effects from the smoking of mushrooms, aside from maybe symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning and smoke inhalation.
If you value being an "expert" over being a student to the huge and complex world of mycology, then keep approaching your mushroom hobby and 'research' in the closed-minded, unscientific and childish way that you are, so that we won't have to worry about the possibility of you making a negative contribution to the gene pool.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: kneesocks]
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I will also add that there is zero possibility of feeling effects from the smoking of mushrooms, aside from maybe symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning and smoke inhalation.
well i never tried it myself,and its been years since ive read about the subject, i believe aminitas are indeed active when smoked
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: hidenseek1]
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Not sure if anyone pointed it out yet... but for future reference, santa cruz is where the mushroom poisoning expert lives and works.... intravenous milk thistle is what you want, and you need it within the first 48 hours of ingestion for a full recovery... it can take up to 2 weeks to feel any symptoms, by then it will be too late.
The deadliest mushrooms often have the longest gap between ingestion and symptom onset... And they are almost always the best tasting mushrooms!
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: rev0kadavur]
#19094544 - 11/06/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Or, for gits and shiggles, you could eat Amanita smithiana so they spend days giving you MT and penecillin til they figure it out, delaying the start of much needed dialysis.
That one always sounded fun.
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Re: Might have eaten wrong mushroom [Re: canid]
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IMMEDIATELY CALL THE LEGALON® SIL HOTLINE:
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