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Anyone know how much dmt this would yield?
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18970131 - 10/12/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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.75-1.5g give or take
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#18970157 - 10/12/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thank you, do you think its a good method for a noob who's trying to be cost effective? I mean it seems even easier than growing shrooms.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18970197 - 10/12/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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very simple extract
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963] 1
#18970216 - 10/12/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think you should be using drugs.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: WhoManBeing]
#18970221 - 10/12/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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with lye, water and mimosa sitting for 24hrs, do shake/stir periodically. same as for when naptha added.
for amount working with, a big mason jar, half-gallon sized would do the job. with the lid on jar, stir well.
when naptha added, can stir when separation happens and can pull naptha out after few times of doing.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18970223 - 10/12/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is pretty easy to make if you can follow directions. Like mushrooms, you have to do everything to the tee, even more so than with mushrooms.
I like this method https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=44251 but it uses acacia confusa instead of mimosa.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: ganjfather]
#18970280 - 10/12/13 10:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, would acacia yield more, and would it be able to be used for the method posted above?
Also, naptha should be able to be found at walmart right? Or shoul I order online? I remember when I was in high school I did a dxm extraction that involved what I believe to be naptha, but it may have been lighter fluid, sorry for my lack of knowledge on this. I'm sure some googling would provide me with some answers but I prefer having it told to me from people, also so that once begun I can bump this thread in order to continue recieving help.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18970298 - 10/12/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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acacia contains more gooey material that is soluble in naphtha so it might transfer to the solvent when you try and do the pulls. it will also contain a higher percentage of monomethyltryptamine.
you might end up with some goo instead but yes indeed it is smokable.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18970313 - 10/12/13 10:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, that method is a little more in depth, but with the way prices are right now for mimosa, the acacia should yield you more for how much you pay.
Do some googlin'
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: ganjfather]
#18973509 - 10/13/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The mimosa joule be powdered or should I get actual bark..? What are your guys opinion on this method? Is it similar to other methods or is it lacking and won't work as well?
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18973660 - 10/13/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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posting, because interesting thread.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Legend]
#18973681 - 10/13/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Enjoywho]
#18973720 - 10/13/13 08:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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By rule of thumb if you do a good extraction you'll have about a 1% rate. 100g will net you roughly 1g... it can be less or it can be more depending on how thorough you are and if you do multiple washes.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Uzziel]
#18973744 - 10/13/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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When you say multiple washes what exactly do you mean? Also, would you mind going through the tek posted above and tell me if its lacking or kind of cheesy in terms of dmt extraction? It seems far easier than most methods which makes me think it may have some disadvantages. It seems good no?
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18974150 - 10/13/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry to have to bump I'm just curious to hear people's opinions on the questions asked in the post above.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18974181 - 10/13/13 09:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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eh. looks like a basic extraction tek for someone who is not very immeresed in chemistry. if you are interested in chemistry and how all of this actually works i recommend you look for a new one that explains all the steps required and involved as it is more likely to be made by someone who has more knowledge in the field that they are doing
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: mr sniffles]
#18974246 - 10/13/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I know nothing of chemistry lol, I'm just good at following teks like extracting chems and growing mushrooms because it basically boils down to just following instructions to the T. Have you or anyone here tried a method like this?
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18974252 - 10/13/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well if you don't have pH papers you probably wouldn't be looking to maximize your yields completely. if you don't really give a shit then you could probably go for it and get some decent product with maybe 2-3 naphtha pulls.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: mr sniffles]
#18974304 - 10/13/13 10:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just a rough STB approach - nothing too fancy, but nothing that seems particularly wrong either. For mimosa, you'd expect about 1g yield combined after a few pulls.
I'm no expert, but I don't think it'd be that great for acacia - without an acidifying+defatting step you're going to end up pulling a lot of oils/fats, and will end up with a very gooey end product, which will probably need cleaning up afterward anyway (after drying and scraping the goo as best you can, all you'd need to do is dissolve it in a small amount of clean, warm naphtha then carefully pour off the naphtha while leaving the oils/impurities, then do another freeze precipitation with the DMT-laden naphtha).
Oh, and you'd regret using a mason jar for your freeze precipitation when it comes time to scrape out those crystals.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Global_Roaming]
#18974339 - 10/13/13 10:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Global_Roaming said: It's just a rough STB approach - nothing too fancy, but nothing that seems particularly wrong either. For mimosa, you'd expect about 1g yield combined after a few pulls.
I'm no expert, but I don't think it'd be that great for acacia - without an acidifying+defatting step you're going to end up pulling a lot of oils/fats, and will end up with a very gooey end product, which will probably need cleaning up afterward anyway (after drying and scraping the goo as best you can, all you'd need to do is dissolve it in a small amount of clean, warm naphtha then carefully pour off the naphtha while leaving the oils/impurities, then do another freeze precipitation with the DMT-laden naphtha).
Oh, and you'd regret using a mason jar for your freeze precipitation when it comes time to scrape out those crystals.
yeah unless your in texas just buy a cheap beaker
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Global_Roaming]
#18974347 - 10/13/13 10:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why would I regret using a mason jar? Also, in the tek around I think the 4th step it says keep it over something heated for 24 hours? How heated and how important is that step?
When you guys say the word pull, do you mean I can do it over and over again with the same root material? Should I be getting powdered root or actual root?
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18974413 - 10/13/13 10:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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get the powdered root youll get higher yields.
i will try to make this simple as possible:
pulling freebase dmt from water+NaOH solution is like adding a solvent (naphtha) to dissolve the DMT into it, because freebase DMT dissolves better in solvents that are non-polar (the molecules do not attract each other much)
however, one pull will only dissolve a certain amount of DMT because the solvent EQUILIBRIUM is being shifted to one side, there is a spectrum of values on how many parts DMT will be dissolved as the rest of the DMT will stay in the water solution for the next pull. 3 pulls should be enough or if you are OCD about your shit do 4.
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Re: Anyone know how much dmt this would yield? [Re: Chowder963]
#18974442 - 10/13/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Scraping up the crystals can be a real bitch of a job (even when using scalpels and razor blades), which is why most people use a flat glass baking dish for that step. Also careful with mason jars and heat - I had the bottom of a glass half-pint jar literally fall out while doing an extraction, after that I got myself some genuine pyrex glassware.
Heat will help release the DMT (as well as all sorts of other goodies and baddies) and promote absorption into the naphtha. Longer you leave the naphtha to soak with heat, the more DMT and other things you'll pull from the basified mixture. Personally, I prefer multiple short-duration pulls for a cleaner product.
A pull is the process of soaking the basified mixture with warm naphtha, then pouring/syphoning off the naphtha for freeze precipitation or evaporation. Yes, you need to do multiple pulls on the same root bark to get all the DMT you can (I usually do between 3-8 pulls per batch of root bark depending on how well its yielding - its a diminishing returns thing). If you use the freeze precipitation method you can re-use your naphtha.
Powdered root bark is best for extraction, but whole root bark will store for longer.
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