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Crunch time with no pins.
    #18969250 - 10/12/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hi guys... I am nearing the end (I hope) of my second grow attempt here;  Being overly zealous, I tried Pan Cyans as my first grow, and I got to the point of incubating the bulk trays, but then I started getting contams and threw them into the garden (I still mist them everyday in hopes that they will still produce).

Anyway, here is what I have going on now... two fully colonized bulk trays of B+ Cubensis are currently in my SGFC, and have been for going on two weeks now... and they haven't pinned yet.  I did a little bit of experimenting with these two Cubensis trays in between Pan Cyan attempts because I was sure I had enough time before my next batch of Cyans would be ready and I could afford some delays in the process.. but I am down to crunch time now:  I have three Pan Cyan trays which just got their casings patched about 5 minutes ago and will be ready to go into the fruiting chamber in just a few more days.

Heres what I did with these Cubensis trays:

They both colonized in top of my fridge where it is ~82f.  The fruiting chamber location is 73f.

The uncased one was dunked completely submerged for 12 hours (well water) before going into the fruiting chamber.  It grew very fast, thick mycelium for the first 4 days or so in the FC, but I have seen no growth in the past 5 days.

The cased one was not dunked per se, but it did float in water for about two hours after birthing from it's tray just to get the underside moist, and then I set it back in it's tray onto a half-inch layer of dry vermiculite;  I let it colonize that verm for 3 days before birthing again, flipping it over and putting into the FC (this was an attempt to get the most uniform casing layer I possibly could).

I have the SGFC next to a east-facing window which is about half open to promote airflow, I don't have a misting schedule, but I mist (with well water) whenever the mycelium looks dry, and fan about every two hours all day long (I work from home)

I understand that messing with these trays could have slowed them down... but I really expected at least one of them to pin by this point.  If neither of them pins in the next 3 days or so, I am going to have to put them into stasis in the fridge until the Pan Cyans are done,and I would obviously prefer not to do that.  Building another FC for the Pans is not really an option right now... perlite is not locally available here, and more than that, my wife has nixed anymore mushroom-related purchases this month.

Any input would be appreciated.


Fruiting chamber


Dunked, uncased tray on left.  Undunked, cased tray on right.


Surface of dunked tray


Surface of cased tray


Money shot.


Edited by Schmendrick (10/13/13 12:00 AM)


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18969294 - 10/12/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you dunking a bulk substrate before the first flush :confused:


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Stromrider]
    #18969298 - 10/12/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Why are you dunking a bulk substrate before the first flush :confused:




Cuz I can. :snub:

Just an experiment, like I said.  The cased one was not dunked, though.. and neither have pinned yet.


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18969358 - 10/12/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did someone say Crunch time?


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18969409 - 10/12/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't read all the text but the pics are nice.

Pinning can take a while.

How many inches of perlite do you have?

Is the SGFC elevated above whatever it's sitting on?

At least it looks like you made enough holes, so many people don't put enough for some reason.


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
    #18969419 - 10/12/13 06:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Cpt.Crunch said:
Did someone say Crunch time?




Was that your version of this...? :thumbup:



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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #18969435 - 10/12/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mjmihalov said:
I didn't read all the text but the pics are nice.

Pinning can take a while.

How many inches of perlite do you have?




You can't really see it in that picture (sorry bout that), but the perlite layer is a little more than 4 inches deep.  This is a 110 quart tub.

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Is the SGFC elevated above whatever it's sitting on?




The FC is on top of two furniture dollys like this: Furniture dolly (With the wheels locked so the whole thing doesn't roll off the countertop :eek: )


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At least it looks like you made enough holes, so many people don't put enough for some reason.




Yeah, I see RR bitching a lot about how people can't seem to learn how to read.  So I made sure to learn how before trying any of this mycology stuff.  It was hard, too, since my native tongue is Swahili and I only found this site about 3 months ago.  How's my English? :grin:


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18969525 - 10/12/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, well thanks for the input... if nobody see's anything inherently wrong with what I am doing here then I will just cross my fingers that these trays start producing before the Pan Cyans are ready to go in... because Pans take precedence over Cubes for me.

These trays might very well end up in my compost pile if they don't get their shit together (HA!).

Not really, I will just put em in the fridge till the Pans are done.


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18969980 - 10/12/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well...the mycelium takes time to recover after dunking. That's probably the holdup.


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #18970457 - 10/12/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

just waterlogs the substrate that was already at field capacity.  my guess would be a bacterial contam before pins, but at the same time ive seen boomers grow in odd places under odd conditions.

let us know what happens regardless :thumbup:


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: twistedty]
    #18970576 - 10/12/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

twistedty said:
just waterlogs the substrate that was already at field capacity.  my guess would be a bacterial contam before pins, but at the same time ive seen boomers grow in odd places under odd conditions.

let us know what happens regardless :thumbup:




I understand what you're saying, I just have a hard time with it for a few reasons:

1) The tray that was dunked was already 100% colonized when it was dunked... no Hpoo substrate was exposed to the water because it was all covered in mycelium... and mycelium only absorbs what it needs, right?

2) Only one tray was dunked, but they are both the same age and neither has pinned yet.

3) In my opinion, the dunked tray looks healthier than the undunked tray (I could be wrong).

Anyway, yes... I will let you know how it all turns out.


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Re: Crunch time with no pins. [Re: Schmendrick]
    #18987187 - 10/16/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Update:  two days ago I decided to switch things up a bit... I started getting really worried about how dry the subs were getting (the mycelium was starting to yellow even though I was misting quite a lot)... so I shoved both trays back into the womb (put them back into a couple of pre-misted lasagna trays), moved the FC away from the window and into my master bedroom walk-in closet, started manually controlling the lighting via the CFL fixture in there, and layed bubble wrap over the surface of the substrate just to make absolutely certain it would retain moisture.

And, just now, the cased tray has pinned.  I expect the uncased/dunked tray will follow shortly.

Good thing too... I can keep the Pan Cyan trays in incubation for another 3 or 4 days max... but after that, they are going to ready to fruit no matter what I do, and this FC needs to be ready to accept them.


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