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OfflineConfettiHead
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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Everything]
    #18967410 - 10/12/13 07:27 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I have telepathically communicated with aliens on DMT and I found them to be benevolent beings despite their ghastly form. My encounter with these aliens left me in a state of bliss in which my fear of death totally subsided. Then I realized that the aliens and myself were not separate entities. I was actually the aliens communicating with myself in order to relieve myself of death anxiety. See, if it had just been me talking to myself in my head, I wouldn't have been able to stop my fear of death. But since it was me talking to myself via the form of an alien entity, I was more prone to embrace the message and apply it to my life. The alien was the guru, but since I was actually the alien, I was the guru. This eventually led me to the realization that there is no teacher that can teach me anything I don't already know. I simply have to unlock that knowledge, whether it be by traversing the depths of my own mind or tapping into the collective consciousness. I have the power to unlock a plethora of knowledge if I simply figure out how to tap into it; all of us have that power. And psychedelics are definitely an effective way of hooking up to that interface of knowledge. I like how someone said that DMT feels familiar to them. I felt that too; it was the most familiar of feelings, like I was home again. And then I think to myself, "If we truly are all one, then no wonder it feels familiar, it's the most familiar thing you can ever feel." Because after all, what's more familiar than yourself?


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: ConfettiHead]
    #18968570 - 10/12/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just to simplify my idea, what im trying to say is "nothing exists until you see it, in the now"


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18969016 - 10/12/13 04:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Home and Truth are always the first thing to come to my mind in regards to the subject... it does closely resemble a dream, only more clear than "reality".


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One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the dark conscious.
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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: j_db69]
    #18969163 - 10/12/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This one time i tried adderall on dmt (i hate adderall) and i was in this room with this creature/bug that DID NOT like me for some reason (and my guess is that i was on a dirty ass drug like adderall with its gorgeous dmt) and it started hitting me with a hammer and all the fractals turned into needles and were piercing me all over, it was painful lol. Learned my lesson that time..all experiences with deems alone have been mostly positive though. I think it might be figments of our imagination...but at the same time..who knows


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Everything]
    #18969169 - 10/12/13 05:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Everything said:
Dmt entities have been called many names. Space elves, spirits, entities, ghosts, aliens, even deities. But where do you believe they come from? Are they merely creations of mind with no existence outside ones head? Or are they more? Do they have intentions, is there interaction with someone a signifigance?

One theory of mine is that they are spirits that go unnoticed normally. They possess great power, at the very least over the dmt user for that time and attempt to send a message or concept back home with the user. Rarely a user will even look as if in a possessed state to the outside world. People have reported a variety of interactions, even being raped
. Whatever strange realms people may be opening the gate to, one message rings clear. Be warned.

What are your theories? Are we getting in over our heads or deep within them? What relevance does this have to death? Angels? Demons? Deities and gods?



I come from the depth of your mind. I am whatever your mind makes me out to be. significant or insignificant is for you to decide.


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: D.M.T]
    #18969196 - 10/12/13 05:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

D.M.T said:
Quote:

Everything said:
Dmt entities have been called many names. Space elves, spirits, entities, ghosts, aliens, even deities. But where do you believe they come from? Are they merely creations of mind with no existence outside ones head? Or are they more? Do they have intentions, is there interaction with someone a signifigance?

One theory of mine is that they are spirits that go unnoticed normally. They possess great power, at the very least over the dmt user for that time and attempt to send a message or concept back home with the user. Rarely a user will even look as if in a possessed state to the outside world. People have reported a variety of interactions, even being raped
. Whatever strange realms people may be opening the gate to, one message rings clear. Be warned.

What are your theories? Are we getting in over our heads or deep within them? What relevance does this have to death? Angels? Demons? Deities and gods?



I come from the depth of your mind. I am whatever your mind makes me out to be. significant or insignificant is for you to decide.




Your friend Salvia made my walls bend and I felt like I was walking on them.  To the point I was going to fall out of the sky into the vast infinite universe and be split into realms of conciousness that marvel in comparison to my human organism.  Good stuff, bit strong though, one day I'll meet you to D.M.T.  :awecid:


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Why can't you be normal!
What you mean to say is, Average.

What's the pride in country if it robs a man of will?
What's the pride in manhood if a man will rape and kill?
What's the pride in killing if the dead will rise again?
Ah, but there's a pride in knowing the enemies within.


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: MeinDarkEye]
    #18970061 - 10/12/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Read my signature....

That was my first experience which is why I'm a firm believer in the reality of these "entities".    Although  I never really had any genuine "real encounters"  with the elves,  or as I like to say "the elf" (plural meaning, like deer or fish)...but it was a surprise for me when I finally did.  After that its like I couldnt get over it.  It was just TOO MUCH,  too cool,  too alien.  Its like you just "feel it" when you know its not just you,  but these neon little 3-D critters are THERE....I just could not get over it. 
I dont always experience "real" encounters,  and not as common as one might think.  They seem to decide when to show up,  and when they do.... they surely blow my mind like NOTHING ELSE.  Its like nothing else matters or even comes close to the elves.  Nothing on the NEWS, or some crazy Stock Market shit happening...  or some freak storm, upside-down tornado or whatever....because when you start taling to ELVES.... and you somehow, in some deep intutive way you KNOW IT, and then you could give a shit less about whatever the hell else happened ealier!  At least that is how its been for me.

I hope you all appreciated my sharing.

In 2010,  I had an experience that gave me the idea that "ELF= EVOLUTIONARY INFLUENCE".    YES and  I would be a liar if I said I came up with it myself,  but it was through the use of these Primordial Wisdom Teachers that this clever little wordage came to me.  Its been since 2010 since it came to me and I still am amazed by it. 

A few months later,  a friend of mine who I had shared all this with helped me realize the that if you take the word EVOLVE  and flip it around backwards you can spell the word LOVE... EVOLve.  Now think of GOD being LOVE... and to move close to GOD is to EVOLVE.  So you see. 

So follow the Elves... and not the ones I used to call "fake elves".... or DELVES... "Devolutionary Influences"  or devils.  Avoid those bastards if you can help it. 


JUST FOCUS ON THE PRETTY STUFF.... cuz there is too much goodness in God to be wasting time focusing on the bad shit, right? 

PEACE :smile:


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"JUST FOCUS ON THE PRETTY STUFF" is what THEY clearly said to me while on fresh picked cubes in Florida. I was reflecting on stupid common life problems I had at the time, but luckily friendly little "cosmic critters" intruded, interrupting my lame-brain moment with that short & simple message of what I now see as being pure universal GOSPEL TRUTH for all of LIFE. That profound little event instantly changed & brightened my whole trip, & it ultimately changed me into a more positive minded person in life. Plus that was definitely my 1st totally convincingly real encounter with THEM & is one reason why I totally believe in what I choose to call ELVES as being absolutely REAL.
ELF = Evolutionary Influence


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Sherwin Maxawow]
    #18970126 - 10/12/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh, they are nothing more than personifications of your own mind. Hopefully they are lovely. If not you have some soul searching to do


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18970164 - 10/12/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalOrangutan said:
Oh, they are nothing more than personifications of your own mind. Hopefully they are lovely. If not you have some soul searching to do




When blockage is removed, things can flow accordingly. 

Grim reaper grins: Ticket please.


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Why can't you be normal!
What you mean to say is, Average.

What's the pride in country if it robs a man of will?
What's the pride in manhood if a man will rape and kill?
What's the pride in killing if the dead will rise again?
Ah, but there's a pride in knowing the enemies within.


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: MeinDarkEye]
    #18970211 - 10/12/13 10:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sherwin your words are fucking powerful. I love you


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18970229 - 10/12/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

AWWh thanks bro!  I appreciate the compliment. 

You too :heart:


:smile:


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"JUST FOCUS ON THE PRETTY STUFF" is what THEY clearly said to me while on fresh picked cubes in Florida. I was reflecting on stupid common life problems I had at the time, but luckily friendly little "cosmic critters" intruded, interrupting my lame-brain moment with that short & simple message of what I now see as being pure universal GOSPEL TRUTH for all of LIFE. That profound little event instantly changed & brightened my whole trip, & it ultimately changed me into a more positive minded person in life. Plus that was definitely my 1st totally convincingly real encounter with THEM & is one reason why I totally believe in what I choose to call ELVES as being absolutely REAL.
ELF = Evolutionary Influence


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: MagicalOrangutan] * 1
    #18970255 - 10/12/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt they can be described in current human terms any more than advanced particle physics theories can be explained by dog barks or chicken clucks. Or stone-age grunts and club swings, if you will.

They're just the kind of stuff that's really out there (or in there, inside) if one really looks far enough with the right tools.

Maybe if enough of us encounter them enough times, this will force our language and models of the world to expand, so as to start expressing our encounters more clearly. We look at them now like our ancestors looked at the stars and comets once upon a time. Distant, fascinating and exotic, as they're so far beyond our current science.


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Blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.



For truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, and did not see it,
and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Everything]
    #18970339 - 10/12/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Everything said:
What we humans need to do is create a dream machine that can record thoughts and imagination, that would be a site. We could use this with dmt trips, dreams, even possibly death.




http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2011/09/22/brain-movies/
Watch the second youtube clip there its insane how close the dreams imagery got!!


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What is a mind, if not something to be messed with? What is consciousness, if not a state to be altered?

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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Sherwin Maxawow]
    #18970374 - 10/12/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't read over all the posts... yet. But in case nobody else has mentioned it, I think its worth pointing out that psilocybin/psilocin is very closely similar to DMT in chemical structure.  Dr. Rick Strassman who wrote "DMT The Spirit Molecule" even said that he considers psilocybin as "orally active DMT."


However I have heard enough people say that there IS A DIFFERENCE between the two chemicals, and its not just in terms of DMT being much more powerful when smoked.  But I have heard psilocybin has its own "VIBE"... and I wonder if it has to do with how old mushrooms are, considering that FUNGI are the OLDEST land inhabiting life-forms on the planet.... and therefor the planet has formed a very unique relationship with the organism itself, and perhaps that could play a role in the overall experience? 

Also thinking about how spores can survive the vacuum of space to me only adds more AWE to the mystery. 


I hope to experience smoking DMT sometime soon.  I wish I knew of an easy way of meeting up with the right people here in Seattle?


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"JUST FOCUS ON THE PRETTY STUFF" is what THEY clearly said to me while on fresh picked cubes in Florida. I was reflecting on stupid common life problems I had at the time, but luckily friendly little "cosmic critters" intruded, interrupting my lame-brain moment with that short & simple message of what I now see as being pure universal GOSPEL TRUTH for all of LIFE. That profound little event instantly changed & brightened my whole trip, & it ultimately changed me into a more positive minded person in life. Plus that was definitely my 1st totally convincingly real encounter with THEM & is one reason why I totally believe in what I choose to call ELVES as being absolutely REAL.
ELF = Evolutionary Influence


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Sherwin Maxawow]
    #18970385 - 10/12/13 11:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sherwin I only tried 1.5 Grams of shrooms but it wasn't *that* qualitatively similar to dmt. I actually liked it more


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On the ground you lay, with your dogs you pray, at a neon hieroglyph sky you gaze

Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

It's all in the mind


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Sherwin Maxawow]
    #18971287 - 10/13/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Sherwin Maxawow said:
I haven't read over all the posts... yet. But in case nobody else has mentioned it, I think its worth pointing out that psilocybin/psilocin is very closely similar to DMT in chemical structure.  Dr. Rick Strassman who wrote "DMT The Spirit Molecule" even said that he considers psilocybin as "orally active DMT."


However I have heard enough people say that there IS A DIFFERENCE between the two chemicals, and its not just in terms of DMT being much more powerful when smoked.  But I have heard psilocybin has its own "VIBE"... and I wonder if it has to do with how old mushrooms are, considering that FUNGI are the OLDEST land inhabiting life-forms on the planet.... and therefor the planet has formed a very unique relationship with the organism itself, and perhaps that could play a role in the overall experience? 

Also thinking about how spores can survive the vacuum of space to me only adds more AWE to the mystery. 


I hope to experience smoking DMT sometime soon.  I wish I knew of an easy way of meeting up with the right people here in Seattle?




Shouldn't be too hard to find it up there, but most of the time you don't find it, IT FINDS YOU. Hehe.

As for the similarities between the two chemicals, you're right, they are very similar. I have encountered entities on 5+ grams of p. cubensis, however they weren't elves. Wish I could run into some elves sometime soon...


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Sherwin Maxawow]
    #18971328 - 10/13/13 07:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Sherwin Maxawow said:
Read my signature....

  I had an experience that gave me the idea that "ELF= EVOLUTIONARY INFLUENCE".





:ancientaliens:




:thumbup:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #18982698 - 10/15/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Another thing not mentioned but very common, "jesters".  Those entities that almost force a "smile" or "laugh" by their antics while they try and show it all to you.  They seem to really want to show you something... I just don't think we can understand it yet, not completely.


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One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the dark conscious.
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Re: Theories on dmt entities [Re: j_db69]
    #18982968 - 10/15/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome thread!

I'm so ready for me gram of DMT to get here. I haven't blasted off yet. The one time I vaped enough to blast off I decided to keep my eyes open and that shit was crazy.


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