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Perfect dose - 0mg
    #18875603 - 09/22/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I remember when I first started experimenting with psychedelics. I started with shrooms, then tried some LSD, then back to shrooms. A friend (who I made through our common interest in exploring psychedelics) and I managed to grow some potent cubensis after we'd both had a few trips under our belts. Our crop didn't yield much and we gave them away to people freely so we ended up being quite conservative with our usage. I never weighed any of my doses but I do know that I reduced my doses quite a lot to conserve my stash. Each time I reduced the dose I would think 'this really is the perfect amount'. My friend also said the same thing. Then we both joked that perhaps we could keep reducing the dose and still find that it was the perfect amount until we reached 0mg.

At the time I thought it was a joke but now, about three years later, I see that it is in fact true. The perfect dose is 0mg. It is probably at least 16 months since my last trip. I stopped tripping shortly after I found out that I was going to be a father. However, in the past month I have felt a strong and growing urge to trip again. I started reading posts at the shroomery and researching the various psychedelics. I've even managed to purchase 3.7m of San Pedro. I've been really gearing up for a trip. Really craving to experience that place again.

I was convincing myself that it would be worth it for so many reasons: that it would give me a fresh perspective, make me smarter, help with my work, make me happier, etc.

But a funny thing happened on the weekend. Out of the blue someone asked me if I wanted to go paintballing at the last minute. I hadn't been paintballing in a long time but I agreed to go. And so began my 0mg trip.

0hr: Pleasant morning drive to a location I've never been to before. Saw many acacias on the side of the road. Wondered to myself whether they were acacia acuminata or not. Promised myself that I would stop by on the way home to check (never did).

+1hr: Arrived at the paintball venue. Lots of people there. Kids bustling around with nervous excitement. Adults discussing tactics and trying to act tough. My friends arrived soon afterwards and we shared some laughs.

+2hr: Finally everyone is debriefed and we are ready to begin our first battle. I've bought a lot of ammo with the intent of using it all. The battle starts and I rush to find some cover. I slowly work my way up to the middle and wait for others to join me. Eventually, I make a dash in the open and I'm instantly peppered with a hail of paintballs. I throw my hands up in surrender and leave the field.

+2.5 - 6 hours: This time is spent in much the same way. Paintball battles are fought with drink breaks in between. At some point during this time I must have peaked. While I was waiting for a game to finish (cos I was 'dead') I suddenly realised that for the first time in months I wasn't thinking about anything. During the games I was just moving, hiding, aiming, shooting, etc. I was completely at peace, totally relaxed. Everything was fluid and automatic. I felt no fear of the paintballs, and no desire to win. I just enjoyed everything. I was so happy to see the children having fun, and to see adults behaving like children. When I got hit I hardly felt anything (but today I have massive bruises that hurt to look at).

At one point I specifically remember thinking: this is the trip that I'd been gearing up for. This is what I needed. Now when I reflect back on it I see that I achieved the 0mg trip.

7hr+: On my way home I took a long detour to pick up that San Pedro I mentioned. I reflected on the day and realised how much I missed my little boy and his mother. I could not wait to get back home to them. I felt so peaceful, I did not care about the traffic, I was not bothered by anything.

+8hr: Eventually the trip subsided and the pain came back in to my body. I felt a bit sick and just went to bed. Later my wife came to lay with me and we talked until sleep.

A lot of you will think this is a bogus trip report. And you will think that it was some kind of adrenaline high. Well you may be right. But I will disagree. I have been in physical fights before, I have had a loaded shotgun pointed at me, and I have gone free climbing, oh and I've witnessed my child being born (and you guys think DMT is a bad trip!). So I know what an adrenaline rush feels like. This felt nothing like it. This was a calm, peaceful, relaxed feeling. I felt detached and free. There was no fear, no aggression. When I was shot I felt happy for the person who got me. I did not care about winning or losing.

The interesting thing is that after this 'trip' I came on to the shroomery and discovered a lot of people talking about how they had reached a point where they felt that less is more. They want to reduce the amount that they take. I get where they are coming from.

I was thinking that a psychedelic trip was the thing I needed to get me back on track. But really it was just a time out from my routine. A timeout that could really be achieved by anything. A timeout achieved with 0mg - the perfect dose.

Think about it guys. I see a lot of talk on these forums about how high, how hard, and how often you can go. What are you searching for in these drugs? I have a friend who is smoking a lot of DMT and telling me about all the awesome experiences it is giving him. He talks a lot about DMT, and is constantly encouraging me to take it. It is becoming an obsession. I see a lot of people on here aged in their teens who are going so hard. Seriously guys, what are you trying to gain from this?

Rather than trying to achieve heroic doses I challenge you all to achieve the 0mg trip. I dare you.

Whatever you do, Good luck and stay safe.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: durantz]
    #18876331 - 09/22/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

One of the best reports I have read.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: shroomsisay]
    #18876383 - 09/22/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Cool lessons, nice post man. Sobriety really is something special all in its own. 0mg trips are the best when your with other people enjoying their poison, weather it be booze weed mushrooms, the drag races whatever, you can pick up what they're feeling without doing any of it yourself...:psychsplit:

Good vibrations!:laugh:
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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: Shortknight]
    #18877274 - 09/22/13 06:29 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks guys.

I just want to make something clear. I'm not saying not to do psychedelics. The only reason I'm able to talk about this stuff is because I've tried psychedelics.

What I am saying is that less can be more. More can be less. Young people have a very hard time of self-regulating. They always want to push the limits. I pushed the limits in sport when I was a teen and I suffer the consequences to this day. And part of the reason it happened was because noone was holding me back, noone was showing me the other side. I had nothing stopping me from hitting the gym and going as hard as I wanted. Didn't do me any good in the long run.

With access to the internet children can get a hold of these extremely powerful substances with ease. If I hadn't found the shroomery god knows when I would have had my first trip. I didn't even know what a shroom looked like. I had no friends who were in to psychedelics. I have to say this, the shroomery facilitated my psychedelic experimentation. It didn't cause it, but it hastened the day that I began tripping.

Now not a day goes by where we don't read a trip report somewhere or other written by a school aged kid. How typical was this prior to the internet? How many kids were buying spores and growing stuff in their closets before the internet? Noone in my school ever mentioned psychedelics. Weed yes, alcohol yes, but psychedelics were unheard of.

On here you can read about 15 year olds trying to achieve ego dissolution! Your ego doesn't even finish properly forming until you're in your early to mid 20s! Around 17-25 is the period when you form your stable value system. If you're trying to achieve ego death before you've even got a stable ego then you really need to have a hard think about what you're proposing. Rather than ego loss you need to be focusing on ego formation. You have the opportunity waiting in front of you to form an ego which you are happy to live with, and which others are happy to coexist with, for the rest of your life.

Don't the older, more experienced people on these forums have an obligation to encourage moderation. To promote alternative means to achieve inner peace? We've been down the rabbit hole and we know that it only gets deeper and deeper. The young people look at our reports and feel amazed, curious, excited at the prospect of experiencing such mind altering states. Yet, how many of us older shroomerites started taking level 5 trips in our teens? I personally did not, and from the numerous trip reports I've read, a lot of others had their first experiences in their twenties and even thirties.

To anyone thinking about or currently taking psychedelics before the age of 21-25 I want you to consider this. Your formative years will be/are being defined in part by your psychedelic drug use. It will influence you for the rest of your life. And you will kid yourself if you think that the drugs can remove your ego for good, or prevent you from getting an ego. No, in reality your ego will form around psychedelic use.

Now is this a good thing? I don't know... in terms of percentages there will be a percentage who find it great, a percentage that are quite nonplussed about it, and a percentage who find it damaging. Young people have a tendency to overdo things when they are unsupervised. In this day, there really is nothing stopping youngsters from attaining these drugs and taking them unsupervised (other youngsters do not count as supervisors). I wish that my gym days had been supervised...

I know that when it comes to talking about psychedelics with my son, I will be maintaining a close watch to make sure he doesn't do anything he will later regret.

These drugs have very long lasting effects. I hope that we as a community are doing our best to help the youngsters find moderation.

Anyways, everyone is on their own path so this is not an attack on anyone. I just want to put some info out there for the young ones, and the ones who may have overemphasised the importance of psychedelics.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: durantz]
    #18918162 - 10/01/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A fantastic report sir, quite funny hahahahaha I must say tho that you definitely opened my eyes to the responsibility aspect of these drugs. I'm a fairly new tripper so that lesson will help me haha


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: Curt-vs-thepipe]
    #18932753 - 10/04/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet report.  Know just what you mean.  Life, as mundane as it can sometimes be, is itself capable of generating a high one can experience.

+ 5 shroomies for you, sir!

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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: Nature Boy]
    #18942525 - 10/06/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So you made the effort to type that long ass thing to say you're someone that has the neurobiology and lifestyle to be content and "happy"?

Uhhh cool? Lots of people are in that situation.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #18950182 - 10/08/13 03:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is a really insightful and beautiful trip report. I really like what you have achieved with yourself, and the fact that you are reporting a 0mg trip report and not pushing it makes it all the more special.

I award you 20 internets for unique trip reporting.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: Someoneimet]
    #18959111 - 10/10/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am one of those people who started off real young. I would have to say that in my own experience, this can be both the best and worst time to take psychedelics. I would have to say that the most beneficial trip I've had before an 2-3 year break from psychedelics was a massive dose of changa. It was the most beneficial caused it scared the shit out of me and made me ditch psychedelics for a long time after, since even 1g doses of shrooms was too close to a flashback for me. It also helped me realize that I'm really fucking around with really powerful stuff, and I had a choice to either dig deeper into that rabbit hole or finish school. I couldn't do both. I chose right, luckily, and finished school. Well then, after finishing school, I took this year and explored the world of mescaline. It was an amazing journey, with 3 experiences under my belt, including one that got me to a state of breakthrough that I did not know was possible on any long lasting psychedelic. Luckily cactus is gentle and doesn't tamper with the ego, (or at least, does it less than shrooms or weed.)so the only negative about the trip itself was that eventually it became total sensory overload, as my mind ended up processing everything at hyper-speed. It smoothed some serious rough spots, and I've got the feeling that I'll only realize it's full benefits in a year or three. What I like about cactus is it's built in limiter. You have to really WANT it to get to breakthrough dose, and in the vast majority of cases breakthrough isn't necessary. On top of that, if you grow it yourself, at the beginning, when you are still learning about the cactus and it's power, you are often limited to a dose a year or so, at least for the first few years. Heck for the first 2, you ain't got no dose. I was taking care of my babies for 4 years before I cut into them, and if it wasn't for the fact that I could get cactus from another source, I would not have gotten near as far into it's depths. Now I have no desire to go deep for a LONG LONG time. Heck, if offered a dose, I'd take 1ft or less, even if my body can handle more. (Up until the last dose, my doses where calculated by seeing how much goop I can fit into my body, and stopping when it becomes apparent that more cactus = purge. And each and every time it ended up just the amount I needed.) Heck, I think the best approach is to use raw material and eat a cactus corn on the cob... Whatever you don't finish you don't need. Save cores for tea. Use low doses of tea as a tonic. Heck make 2lt of juice out of a foot, and use a shot glass at a time, in the morning, daily, till it is gone. I bet it will be 10 times more effective healing than taking it all at once.

I find that with psychedelics, once you've delved deep enough, all it takes is a reminded once in a while. Heck, I'd tell you now, go try a piece of that beautiful cactus. You'd be surprised (or not) to see that just a little bit will get you right where you need to be.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: The Centre]
    #18962713 - 10/11/13 06:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the advice Centre. The cactus really seems like a limiter in at least three ways. First, the cactus takes a long time to grow enough for a dose, second it seems like it's hard to eat a lot of cactus, and third, even if you do eat enough the effect of unrefined mescaline sounds like it is less intense than other psychedelics.

One day I will give the cactus a try. I've since been lucky enough to buy some more so I have over 22ft of the stuff. But I'm going to see if I can get it all rooted first and then in a couple of years I may indulge.

I think I just need to lighten up and take any future trips a lot less seriously. My first trip was just spent mesmerised by what I was seeing. I hardly thought about anything! I remembered saying to myself "if only I could feel this good when I was sober!"

Now that I think about it, psychedelics may not interact with age so much as they interact with the amount of knowledge a person has. The more you 'know' the more the drugs may mess with those thoughts. So I could be totally wrong, and young people may have no problems at all. It's just that when they actually learn that there is a rabbit hole, that things could end up taking a turn for the worst.

My personal realisation was that I didn't need the psychedelic experience to get me back on track. Which has been a big step in my development. I just wanted to share that experience with others who may be thinking that psychedelics necessarily hold all the answers.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: durantz]
    #18963744 - 10/11/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Great report!

I've found that especially after psychedelics, I can achieve a certain amount of "psychedelic head-space" while sober. Mushrooms and other psychedelics have strengthened my personal connection with the natural world, and now I feel that connection and oneness with the universe at just about every point in my life.

I think a lot of people could benefit from a 0mg trip, and just some time to relax and have fun. I've noticed that a lot of people forget how to have fun, and how to act like a child while still being mature.
It's a great advantage to have, so that an entire lifespan can be spent enjoying life,  and appreciating our beautiful human experience. :peace:

I have also noticed that many people only feel that connection with the universe when on psychedelics. I personally believe that although these substances can bring your mind to a heightened and insightful state, they are not necessary. They are simply catalysts for the conscious energy that is in all of us.


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: MindDrips]
    #18967975 - 10/12/13 11:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good report buddy nice point! +5:bump2:


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: dstark]
    #18968768 - 10/12/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome report! But I'm still shrooming tomorrow :aweohyou:


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Re: Perfect dose - 0mg [Re: MitchyDee]
    #18975698 - 10/14/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So I know what an adrenaline rush feels like. This felt nothing like it. This was a calm, peaceful, relaxed feeling. I felt detached and free. There was no fear, no aggression. When I was shot I felt happy for the person who got me. I did not care about winning or losing.




It sounds like you were experiencing a strong and persistent state of Flow, what Zen Buddhists call Mindfulness.
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