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Let's Make A Deal!!!!
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Contestant One is Barry O. Number 2 is the Senate... Number 3 is the house...
And what's behind door 1? More spending! Business as usual!! Borrow more money and run those fucking printing presses!
Contestant one, two, and three get together and throw a few bones in the form of handouts to the peons in the masses, to make it look like the audience gets something.
then they all fall down on their hands and knees and suck each others dicks, congratulating each other on making such a fabulous deal that keeps the government running.

Discuss.
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Yes, we can't help anyone who needs it. That would be evil.
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: Le_Canard] 1
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ToiletDuk said: Yes, we can't help anyone who needs it. That would be evil.
If they have money to run 240 military golf courses during the shutdown I dont want to hear bullshit about helping anyone. Because they got money, they just aren't spending it the right way.
What's evil is borrowing and spending so much money that in 20 years everyones kids and grandchildren will need help because the fucking assclowns--both parties--in Washington destroyed the country.
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What ever, its a congress and government you and the people elected, and I don't think its peons that are sapping our country dry, and duh spending is going up, but cutting and slashing isn't the panacea to that problem, its more complex then you think. Who wants to cut shit until it affects who ever personally, they give a fuck about a shutdown until it affects them personally. Just like im sure congressman can give a fuck whether a working family will have WIC, or that USDA inspections is slashed. Generally why would anyone care unless they personally got salmonella because of it which funny of enough 200 people were sickened by a recent outbreak, but whatever. Go with the false narrative that both sides do it, but the fringe republican tea party morons need to take personal responsibility for the Government shutdown, it was their plan, and it was their move. Everyone is sick of the talking points.
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two hundred people sickened by it. In spite of government inspections. Education is fucked up...in spite of the Department of Education...etc...etc....you see a pattern?
Governemt gets involved in something, spends a lot of money, and the problem still gets worse...so they want more government to fix it.
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Yeah, lets get rid of the Dept of Education and let Texas teach creationism .
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two hundred people sickened by it. In spite of government inspections
Yeah, imagine if there weren't government inspections? Imagine if the CDC group that works on these kinds of thigns hadn't been working with 40 staff members instead of their regular 300?
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If they have money to run 240 military golf courses during the shutdown I dont want to hear bullshit about helping anyone.
The golf courses are self-sustaining, they don't need gov't money to stay open.
Anybody who complains about our debt doesn't understand how our nation is built on debt. We have debt because so many other countries use our currency as a reserve currency. The only thing that could make the debt become important, is defaulting on it.
Let's make a deal: you stop posting terrible threads, and I will stop explaining the basics to you.
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Anybody who complains about our debt doesn't understand how our nation is built on debt. We have debt because so many other countries use our currency as a reserve currency. The only thing that could make the debt become important, is defaulting on it.
Let's make a deal: you stop posting terrible threads, and I will stop explaining the basics to you.
You think the federal government has been spending more than a trillion dollars more a year on average since Obama than it takes in because other countries use the US dollar as their reserve currency?
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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I'm saying our government can do that kind of a thing in a recession/depression because it is so widely prevalent as a reserve currency.
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We aren't in either a recession or a depression and haven't been for quite a few years. And yet the debt explodes every year. Maybe an annual trillion dollars of means tested largesse given away every year might be the problem.
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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The debt isn't exploding, and the deficit has been reduced the fastest in over 50 years. This won't ever make sense to you though, because you have an unjustifiable hate for Barack Obama. Your shit graph that hasn't been updated, and shows the last Bush budget (FY2009) budget as Obama's, and the last Clinton budget (FY2001) as Bush's
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Mush4Brains said: I'm saying our government can do that kind of a thing in a recession/depression because it is so widely prevalent as a reserve currency. 
You do realize that "it is so widely prevalent as a reserve currency" is coming under pressure in the global market place, many countries are bypassing the US dollar for trade settlement and are using their own currencies (China, Russia, Brazil, ect).
Every few months another global deal is made to eliminate the US dollar for transactions, and therefore reducing its reserve status.
So yes, "our nation is built on debt" does have ramifications, mostly negative in the long term.
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The debt isn't exploding?
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The national debt grew by $750 billion during the first 11 months of fiscal 2013,
Congress sets spending. There was a Dem Congress since the 2006 elections. That just ended in 2010 but is still only half Republican.
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Mush4Brains said: The debt isn't exploding, and the deficit has been reduced the fastest in over 50 years. This won't ever make sense to you though, because you have an unjustifiable hate for Barack Obama. Your shit graph that hasn't been updated, and shows the last Bush budget (FY2009) budget as Obama's, and the last Clinton budget (FY2001) as Bush's
"the deficit has been reduced the fastest in 50 years."
This is like a F student that got 20's on test scores is now getting 40's, their grades have doubled, what a great accomplishment!
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Mush4Brains said: The debt isn't exploding, and the deficit has been reduced the fastest in over 50 years. This won't ever make sense to you though, because you have an unjustifiable hate for Barack Obama. Your shit graph that hasn't been updated, and shows the last Bush budget (FY2009) budget as Obama's, and the last Clinton budget (FY2001) as Bush's
I like your specious logic. Obama ran deficits 2 to 3 times higher every year than any other president in history. Then when the fiscal deficit for a year is reduced a few hundred billion (still higher than any other presidents yearly deficits) everyone sucks Obama's dick because he is lowering the deficit?????
 
And most of the birdbrain republicans are right with him. They don't want to miss out when the pork gets shoveled out.
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"the deficit has been reduced the fastest in 50 years."
This is like a F student that got 20's on test scores is now getting 40's, their grades have doubled, what a great accomplishment!
In my Ochem classes getting a 40% on tests would mean you had one of the highest grades in the class. It's all about perspective.
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That isn't how most of them work, though, is it? Why are you arguing a pointless point? Is it because you are getting your ass handed to you on the issues at hand?
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Nobody is handing me anything.
Democratic presidents create more jobs. Huge deficit spending started under the Reagan administration. Huge expansion of the Federal Government and creation of structural deficit is GWB's legacy, and all you can do is whine about Obama and "libtards."
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Dems have already made a 'DEAL'
The continuing resolution (CR) being debated was proposed by none other than Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) himself in July. Boehner’s proposed CR number was the compromise position. The Democrats agreed to a budget $220 billion below the president’s request and almost $100 billion below the previously Senate passed budget. Hell, the House GOP budget CR currently being referred to as the “clean” bill is more than $100 billion below the Paul Ryan budget proposal. It’s $2 billion below George W. Bush’s last budget proposal, meaning that if we pass it, we would be funding government at 2008 levels — that’s hardly a position Democrats are happy with.

Democrats already compromised multiple times in the months leading up to the shutdown in an effort to avoid it. They agreed to the Republican budget number and requested that the GOP sit at the table to help target the cuts or negotiate their implementation, Republicans refused 19 times. To then turn around and claim Democrats refuse to negotiate because Republicans demand they undo a law passed by Congress, upheld by the Supreme Court, and ratified by popular vote in the last presidential election is neither a reasonable nor a sane position.
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Democratic presidents create more jobs. Huge deficit spending started under the Reagan administration. Huge expansion of the Federal Government and creation of structural deficit is GWB's legacy, and all you can do is whine about Obama and "libtards."
Presidents don't create jobs and this one certainly hasn't. Huge expansion of federal government is FDR's legacy and his poodle Congress. Reagan had a Dem Congress. I keep repeating this but it seems to fall on either deaf ears or broken brain. Congress sets spending. Bush's last two years had Dems in control of both sides of Congress. Then Obama got in and still the Dems had control of both sides of Congress. In 2010 the people said what the fuck this sucks and took back the people's chamber.
You like federal government expansion, right? How come you don't vote Republican if they expand the federal government like you say they do?
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sweeper54 said: Dems have already made a 'DEAL'
The continuing resolution (CR) being debated was proposed by none other than Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) himself in July. Boehner’s proposed CR number was the compromise position. The Democrats agreed to a budget $220 billion below the president’s request and almost $100 billion below the previously Senate passed budget. Hell, the House GOP budget CR currently being referred to as the “clean” bill is more than $100 billion below the Paul Ryan budget proposal. It’s $2 billion below George W. Bush’s last budget proposal, meaning that if we pass it, we would be funding government at 2008 levels — that’s hardly a position Democrats are happy with.

Democrats already compromised multiple times in the months leading up to the shutdown in an effort to avoid it. They agreed to the Republican budget number and requested that the GOP sit at the table to help target the cuts or negotiate their implementation, Republicans refused 19 times. To then turn around and claim Democrats refuse to negotiate because Republicans demand they undo a law passed by Congress, upheld by the Supreme Court, and ratified by popular vote in the last presidential election is neither a reasonable nor a sane position.
Looks to me like it's 19B more than Ryan. I have no idea what "original" Ryan budget means. I would also point out that he isn't the king. How come Obama gets to undo the law that was passed by Congress and mostly upheld by the SCOTUS?
The obamacare act was never ratified by popular vote. It never would have passed if it had to be.
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How come Obama gets to undo the law that was passed by Congress and mostly upheld by the SCOTUS
You keep bringing this up but have no proof besides what your right-wing hate blogs tell you to parrot.
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How come Obama gets to undo the law that was passed by Congress and mostly upheld by the SCOTUS
You keep bringing this up but have no proof besides what your right-wing hate blogs tell you to parrot.
No proof?
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/07/03/afl-cio-chief-says-health-law-delay-troubling/
The Obama administration said Tuesday it would delay enforcing a provision of the new health-care law that requires large employers to provide coverage for workers or pay a penalty in 2014, the biggest revision so far to the federal health-care overhaul.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/11/study-obamacare-has-been-amended-delayed-19-times/
Mr. Obama has also acted on his own, declaring five separate delays this year. Most recently he announced one-year delays on checking the applicants for exchanges to see if they should have employer-based coverage.
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Yes, I know what you're talking about, now make the argument that it is illegal.
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Don't you keep going on that Congressmen can't change a law that they write and that it is a done deal so those Congresspeople elected to oppose it should just shut the fuck up and swallow it? I'm just applying your rules.
As to the legality of it we will just have to see what the SCOTUS says when it gets there. Seems to me a serious breach of equal protection, n'est ce pas?
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Don't you keep going on that Congressmen can't change a law that they write
No.
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I'm just applying your rules.
No, you're purposely misrepresenting what I say to further your own agenda.
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equal protection
There is actually an equal protection suit going through the courts now that might hold water. I don't know your equal protection issues are, but if they aren't these, than they probably don't hold much water.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-lawsuit-oklahoma-pruitt/2013/10/09/id/530113
I also don't know if this could actually get the whole law repealed.
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Don't you keep going on that Congressmen can't change a law that they write
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I'm just applying your rules.
No, you're purposely misrepresenting what I say to further your own agenda.
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There is actually an equal protection suit going through the courts now that might hold water. I don't know your equal protection issues are, but if they aren't these, than they probably don't hold much water.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obamacare-lawsuit-oklahoma-pruitt/2013/10/09/id/530113
That doesn't include Presidential over-reach. That hasn't even begun. The unions are barking as well.
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I'm not misrepresenting anything.
The only thing I've said is that if they want to repeal the law, then get the votes.
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The unions are barking as well.
Since when have you given a fuck about unions, besides wanting to see them dismantled? Shouldn't something that pisses off the unions be good to you? They also said they don't want the law repealed, but fixed.
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I'm not misrepresenting anything.
The only thing I've said is that if they want to repeal the law, then get the votes.
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The unions are barking as well.
Since when have you given a fuck about unions, besides wanting to see them dismantled? Shouldn't something that pisses off the unions be good to you? They also said they don't want the law repealed, but fixed.
What's the difference, fixed or repealed? Fixed into what?
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That would explain the make up of the House n'est ce pas?
What about the Senate where the Democrats gained seats, and Obama winning by 5million votes?
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What's the difference, fixed or repealed? Fixed into what?
I don't write laws. If the PPACA is fixed into anything, it should be single-payer. I'm not a fan of the PPACA, but it is better than the old system. I'm one of those lefties that vote against the PPACA in polls, skewing the results by 15%.
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It is the POTUS's job to IMPLEMENT the laws of congress as he see fit.
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No, it isn't. You just exposed yourself as a constitutional buffoon. The President, "executive":
"The executive officer is not supposed to make laws (the role of the legislature) or interpret them (the role of the judiciary). The role of the executive is to enforce the law as written by the legislature and interpreted by the judicial system."
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To enforce the law as written is up to interpretation by the executive branch. I should really just stop reading your posts . Just because you can copy and paste off of Google doesn't mean you're right. You can't enforce something unless it is interpreted from law to enforcement.
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No, it isn't. You just exposed yourself as a constitutional buffoon. The President, "executive":
"The executive officer is not supposed to make laws (the role of the legislature) or interpret them (the role of the judiciary). The role of the executive is to enforce the law as written by the legislature and interpreted by the judicial system."
IMPLEMENT
verb the cost of implementing the new law: execute, apply, put into effect, put into action, put into practice, carry out/through, perform, enact; fulfill, discharge, accomplish, bring about, achieve, realize, actualize, phase in; formal effectuate.
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sweeper54 said: It is the POTUS's job to IMPLEMENT the laws of congress as he see fit.
No, it isn't. You just exposed yourself as a constitutional buffoon. The President, "executive":
"The executive officer is not supposed to make laws (the role of the legislature) or interpret them (the role of the judiciary). The role of the executive is to enforce the law as written by the legislature and interpreted by the judicial system."
IMPLEMENT
verb the cost of implementing the new law: execute, apply, put into effect, put into action, put into practice, carry out/through, perform, enact; fulfill, discharge, accomplish, bring about, achieve, realize, actualize, phase in; formal effectuate.
BUFFOON
OK. That doesn't mean he can change the law unilaterally. If the law says 'xyz will happen on 1 january' the president can't change it so it doesn't happen until he wants it. is there something hard about that concept? He has to, implement the laws, but NOT AS HE SEES FIT. HE has to implement them as written.
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But s/he can read "xyz" as "abc" and implement what he wants until it is challenged through the courts. .
You could read "starfire_xes is smart" and understand that somebody like Zappisgod wrote something so ridiculous, and take "is smart" actually means "has no idea what he is talking about."
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The fuck he can't.
He can implement the law any way he wants, he can enforce the law any way he wants, he can apply as few resources as he wants...
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He can implement the law any way he wants, he can enforce the law any way he wants, he can apply as few resources as he wants...
STFU man, you're making it sound like the constitution and upheld laws make the executive branch the highest power in the land. Everyone knows that the house of representatives is the final authority .
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You'd think that if you were an Orange Bonehner
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A crying Boehner?
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Soon he'll be a Crying Orange Bonehner.
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That would explain the make up of the House n'est ce pas?
What about the Senate where the Democrats gained seats, and Obama winning by 5million votes?
Obama got less votes than he did against McRino and the Republicans held the House in spite of it. Those people get to be heard. The Republican party's issue is that it is NOT conservative. The base is pissed. More of the country identifies as conservative than as liberal.Quote:
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What's the difference, fixed or repealed? Fixed into what?
I don't write laws. If the PPACA is fixed into anything, it should be single-payer. I'm not a fan of the PPACA, but it is better than the old system. I'm one of those lefties that vote against the PPACA in polls, skewing the results by 15%.
Well then let's bring that to a vote, shall we? I think you know what that outcome will be.
In what way is Obamacare better than anything?
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sweeper54 said: The fuck he can't.
He can implement the law any way he wants, he can enforce the law any way he wants, he can apply as few resources as he wants...
Ignorant bullshit. How will you like it when there is a Republican President?
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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sweeper54 said: The fuck he can't.
He can implement the law any way he wants, he can enforce the law any way he wants, he can apply as few resources as he wants...
Ignorant bullshit. How will you like it when there is a Republican President?
Hey Zap, I basically threw up my hands and ignored him and mush when they started floating these turds in spite of whatever is presented.
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I won't do that. I do not counter their nonsense to convince them. They're lost. It is for everybody else.
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I won't do that. I do not counter their nonsense to convince them. They're lost. It is for everybody else.
And a big thank you for that. You're a wealth of knowledge and truth.
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sweeper54 said: The fuck he can't.
He can implement the law any way he wants, he can enforce the law any way he wants, he can apply as few resources as he wants...
Ignorant bullshit. How will you like it when there is a Republican President?
Hey Zap, I basically threw up my hands and ignored him and mush when they started floating these turds in spite of whatever is presented.
Yes, sf you're such a pillar of fucking virtue.
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So in other words, you can't explain how this is illegal, so you ignore it?
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The golf courses are self-sustaining, they don't need gov't money to stay open.
Bullshit. You want to know what is self sustaining though, the WWII memorial in D.C. But fuckstain Obama just loves to play politics and attempt to close it locking out the very people that fought for this country and his black ass. You know the people that stormed Normandy, took Iwo Jima, fought the Nazis in the battle of the bulge, watched their friends and comrade's die for this fucking country.
You know the memorial WE bought and paid for, the ones the vets lost limbs for. Yet somehow this is Obamas monument, the congress' monument which they feel they can close. I would like ever one to go to work tomorrow, show up early, then when the owner of the company shows up ( the guy that actually paid for the property) stand there with a gun and don't allow him access to his own land, see what happens to you.
Illegals and obamas aunt Z, and those who haven't put a single fucking dime into the system are having no problems getting their tax payer subsidized lives taken care of, but those that fought for this country, yeah fuck 'em. Watch the video, nothing like Obamas police force ripping the flag out of veterans hands, on the very land they paid for, they fought for, and they earned. These places never had a police force on them, they were never guarded but of course now when we "have no funding" somehow we can pay for them. Funy, Hitler couldn't stop these guys but Obama and his henchmen try to.
Of course Biden tweeted how he was "proud" of the guards for stopping the vets. What a worthless, ignorant fuck. This is OUR property, not Bidens, not Obamas, not the fucking congress. Chicken shit Biden actually dodged the draft 5 FUCKING TIMES, then after college he suddenly came down with "childhood asthma" to get out of the service. Then this worthless fuck congratulates police forces for keeping out aging vets, the ones that actually put their lives on the line for this country, And the dems like this asshole?
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In my Ochem classes getting a 40% on tests would mean you had one of the highest grades in the class. It's all about perspective.
Anyone that can not manage to get more than 40% on an ochem, biochem, or cell class has absolutely no right being in a science curriculum/program, are these people mentally retarded? I guess with that type of performance it illuminates your "perspective".
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Bullshit. You want to know what is self sustaining though, the WWII memorial in D.C.
Only in your petty pub mind.
I t is a national memorial and therefore a target for any wackjob, or zealot to deface or damage when left unprotected.
You want it open, open the government.
Your precious pub party is losing this fight, even now they are caving and finding a way to save face.
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Only in your petty pub mind.
I t is a national memorial and therefore a target for any wackjob, or zealot to deface or damage when left unprotected.
Bullshit, there are thousands upon thousands of vets that would gladly volunteer at the memorial. But of course the government could never afford this, just like they couldn't afford to "pay" volunteers for white house tours. Can't afford to pay someone that works for free, but Obama has no problems paying for parasitic illegal fucks that don't work at all. Makes perfect sense in your petty, ignorant mind just flowing with all the wonderful perks and handouts you feel that you are entitled to, of course at the tax payers expense.
yep, all the dems are "entitled" to the fruits of anothers labor. Hell why shouldn't you be able to take from someone something that you have never earned? Why shouldn't someone have to work harder or more hours and live with less, so you can have more? Why should you have to do a goddamned thing for yourself when you can just leech off from others? Why should you have to pay for shit when someone else that has had to struggle can just do it for you? Why not just let Obama "spread the POVERTY around" sounds fair to me.
I think I'm going to go to the bank and make a withdrawal, when the teller asks for my account number I'll just say I don't have one, and have never put a single fucking cent into savings, but I would just like her to take some money from everyone elses accounts and give it to me. You know spread the wealth a little, seems fair in a democrat rule world.
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our precious pub party is losing this fight, even now they are caving and finding a way to save face.
Goddamn, are all the dems on this site like one of Mush's 40%? WTF do you not understand? Just because one has legitimate grievances with this incompetent fool for a president does not make one a republican. Jesus christ, I know Dem's, repubs, and independents that hate this asshole, but of course they HAVE to be REPUBS or RACISTS. You want to know what Mr. Transparent hasn't closed down?
The so-called “government shut down” and the furloughing of thousands of non-essential federal employees has not prevented the opening of a $2 billion dollar NSA spy center in Utah which will snoop on Americans’ private emails, Google searches and phone calls.
Rest assured, TSA grope downs, VIPR checkpoints, drone attacks, SWAT team raids, tax collection, torturing terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, arming jihadists in Syria and running guns to Mexican drug dealers will all continue unimpeded – as will NSA domestic spying.
Although the NSA itself refuses to confirm it, to all intents and purposes the agency’s mammoth new spy center in Bluffdale, Utah “may be open already,” according to the Denver Post.
“The facility is expected this fall to quietly begin sucking in massive amounts of information for the intelligence community and storing it in the cavernous buildings in Bluffdale, Utah, according to NSA officials — and it could be open now even as the agency faces scrutiny over efforts to collect data on Americans domestically,” writes Thomas Burr.
An NSA spokesperson said back in July that the center would be open by the “end of the fiscal year,” i.e., the end of September. The fact that lawmakers have failed to agree on legislation that will fund the government from today onwards isn’t an issue for the agency.
NSA spokeswoman Vanee Vines also recently acknowledged that the center, which covers 1 million square feet of space, is ready for each machine to be switched on. The center will hold 1 trillion terabytes of data. To put that in context, all of the books ever written in any language would need just 400 terabytes.
The facility is set to collect ”complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter,” according to Wired.
It will be filled with supercomputers that can run one thousand trillion calculations per second as part of a data mining process that seeks to identify suspects “before they commit a crime or associate with terror suspects,” state of the art pre-crime technology that puts the movie Minority Report to shame.
While the center itself will not analyze the data (it only has 200 employees), the information will be scrutinized “at other federal facilities by personnel who can remotely access the information stored in Bluffdale,” reports the Salt Lake Tribune.
The NSA “has broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since Congress granted the agency broad new powers in 2008,” according to a recent Washington Post report.
The most recent example of domestic snooping emerged only yesterday, when it was reported that the NSA, “is storing the online metadata of millions of internet users for up to a year, regardless of whether or not they are persons of interest to the agency.” The New York Times also reported that the NSA was exploiting such data to create, “sophisticated graphs of some Americans’ social connections that can identify their associates, their locations at certain times, their traveling companions and other personal information.”
This year’s series of revelations about the NSA’s corrupt practices on behalf of whistleblower Edward Snowden did not prompt the federal agency to become more transparent about its activities in
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: I t is a national memorial and therefore a target for any wackjob, or zealot to deface or damage when left unprotected.
You mean like before the slimdown? You know... like when the monument was left alone and unprotected as a normal course of action?
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: Therian]
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In my Ochem classes getting a 40% on tests would mean you had one of the highest grades in the class. It's all about perspective.
Anyone that can not manage to get more than 40% on an ochem, biochem, or cell class has absolutely no right being in a science curriculum/program, are these people mentally retarded? I guess with that type of performance it illuminates your "perspective".
Unless the professor is making the tests so ridiculously difficult and being as much of a stickler as possible, then it is entirely possible, and is exactly how he wrote the tests. My prof was (and still is) extremely well known in the organic field, yet taught every lecture and every lab. Sorry your O Chem classes were taught by shit TA's who couldn't teach.
I went to school with some really smart people and nobody was scoring much higher than 40% at the best. Our second exam the class average was 17, and the highest was a 28. Before he put the curve up and I saw that I got a 24 I almost shit my pants.
But, of course, people who call people "shitstain" and say things like "Obamas aunt as well as the rest of our presidents illegal worthless scum, system sucking parasite family members" have a much better perspective on things.
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Obama's aunt is an illegal alien parasite
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Unless the professor is making the tests so ridiculously difficult and being as much of a stickler as possible, then it is entirely possible, and is exactly how he wrote the tests. My prof was (and still is) extremely well known in the organic field, yet taught every lecture and every lab. Sorry your O Chem classes were taught by shit TA's who couldn't teach.
Funny, if you have studied, have even the most miniscule iota of intelligence, as well as even the most rudimentary understanding of science then it is not difficult. I'm sorry but I too have heard students such as yourself whining and crying about how difficult Ochem and stoich is but honestly it isn't difficult. Most that cried about it should have been in gender studies, social work, or history of urban culture classes anyhow. One should not judge others by their own failures, just because your scores reflected one with cognitive deficits/mental reatardation, does not mean those that excell in the field somehow had a poor teacher. A poor workman always blames his tools/teacher.
If not a parasite, please tell me what Obamas family could be described as. The whore never put a single fucking cent, not one, not ever into the system. She then cost the American taxpayer MILLIONS of dollars, hence the very epitome of fucking leech. As a matter of fact one of the compelling reasons for her not being deported was due to the fact her lawyer stated that even after weeks of medical treatment in intensive care (paid for by the American taxpayer) she still needed more treatment.
Thus, this whore hasn't fucked over the taxpayer enough judge, she needs to stay and fullfill her birthright as a bloodsucking illegal negress and receive not only her free housing, free food, free heat, free electricity, free spending money, but also much, much, much, more health care to further indebt the people of this nation. This bitch is so ignorant and deluded that when asked "whom do you think is paying your way" the skank actually said "god is paying". No bitch, the american taxpayer is.
Tell me why with Obama and his great "spread the wealth around" bullshit, why didn't his sorry ass pay for her? Why is it that the president that is a multi, multi, multi, millionare can't pay for his own familys medical costs? Why should WE collectively have to pay when HE has the money? If my aunt needed medical care and I was a millionare I can guarantee you I would help and not expect the bankrupt nation and its inhabitants to do so. I guess spreading the wealth only counts to the dem's when it is OTHER PEOPLES money.
Did you see the interview she gave to Boston TV station WBZ-TV? Just go to YouTube and search on "Zeituni," Z-E-I-T-U-N-I. There are two clips there, an earlier one and a later one — they're the clips with the most viewer hits. They really have to be seen to be believed.
Talk about a sense of entitlement! ["If I come as an immigrant you have the obligation to make me a citizen …"] In fact it goes beyond entitlement: Aunt Zeituni is a victim. ["To me America's dream became America's nightmare …"] Far from her having taken advantage of us, it is we who have taken advantage of her. That's what she said: ["I did not take advantage of the system. The system took advantage of me … I've been treated like Public Enemy Number One …"]
OK: no enforcement of two, count 'em two deportation orders, free public housing, $700 a month disability … Being Public Enemy Number One looks like a pretty good deal to me. Better than a rat-infested shack in Nairobi, anyway.
But why should we do all this for her? Aunt Zeituni is eager to tell us. ["You are here to help people …"] Ah; so those of us grumbling about Auntie Zeituni are just like that narrow-minded, hate-filled Swedish guy who fancies that his taxes are meant to help his fellow citizens. No! — they're for the whole world!
There is a bit of a puzzle about Aunt Zeituni's finances, though. She favors expensive designer clothes and accessories, and for her recent hearing before Judge Shapiro, reported in our August 20th broadcast, she had the services of an expensive immigration lawyer flown in from Cleveland.
Tackled on this point, Aunt Zeituni was glad to clear up the conundrum. She revealed to the interviewer the identity of the person paying her bills. It is … God. No kidding. ["How can you afford …?"] I've heard of "God is my co-pilot," but this is the first time I've heard "God is my bank manager."
You know, I always miss out on these things. Mrs. Derbyshire wants a new kitchen, but we can't afford it. How do I get in touch with God for a new kitchen? If Aunt Zeituni's listening, or anyone else who knows the trick, please let me know, care of National Review. In the event the Almighty himself is listening, it's a tiled floor we want, and one of those refrigerators that makes ice cubes in a dispenser thingy. And not the deal with the microwave over the range, please — causes too many problems with the electronics heating up. And …
Oh, sorry, got a little sidetracked there. Back to Aunt Zeituni. So here she is: she ignored two deportation orders, she got herself into public housing, she's unemployed, on disability welfare, decked out in a sharp designer outfit, attorney's fees paid for her by the Supreme Being. Not bad.
One thing you have to agree with her about for sure: ["It's a great country …"]
It certainly is, Auntie, for those who are brazenly shameless enough about scoffing at its laws and milking its public funds.
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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And kick her the fuck out. The fucking piece of shit in the Oval Office is making tons of money. Let him pay for the useless cunt. In Kenya.
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Missed your last round of meds have you there Zap?
Your avatar is SO prefect for that last out brust.
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Never been on meds. Neither was zappa.
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zappaisgod said: And kick her the fuck out. The fucking piece of shit in the Oval Office is making tons of money. Let him pay for the useless cunt. In Kenya.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/17/obamas-aunt-is-granted-asylum/?_r=0
Can't kick her out.
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Re: Let's Make A Deal!!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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Sucks for you. You should start calling everybody names and make fun of poor people some more. It seems to be all you can do. Maybe toss some nonsense in about commies, socialists, Muslims, black people, and everything else that you hate isn't white and rich.
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Mush4Brains said: Sucks for you. You should start calling everybody names and make fun of poor people some more. It seems to be all you can do. Maybe toss some nonsense in about commies, socialists, Muslims, black people, and everything else that you hate isn't white and rich.
I hate bums of all colors and creeds. She is what we call here in America a fucking bum, aka parasitic loser piece of shit. Why doesn't her rich nephew take care of her himself?
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Oh, no need to worry about this. Once the Department of Homeland Security "Computers get tied into the health care system computers" they can use the data from the NSA to improve your healthcare.
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Oh, no need to worry about this. Once the Department of Homeland Security "Computers get tied into the health care system computers" they can use the data from the NSA to improve your healthcare.
And the can use that information to take Zaps guns
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