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First grow, contamination?
    #18964904 - 10/11/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So this is my first mushroom grow, and i'm curious of what these reddish-brown spots are. I know I was supposed to let the mycelium cover the top first before putting them into pinning conditions, but I wasn't very educated upon starting this and they started to pin before it finished. Given that, i'm at least trying to get a couple decent flushes out of the grow. The spots are only on some of them, in random places. They've also been growing slow, I have them in about 72 degree temperatures, misting and fanning as often as possible. Any help is appreciated, and I apologize for the poor quality pictures, all I have is my iPhone.

Also: The spots have been there since they were little, they've been growing for a little over a week. If this was a contaminant wouldn't it spread quickly, cause rotting, and or stunted growth?





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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18964932 - 10/11/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Top left of the first picture looks like it could be bacteria?  Not entirely sure.  Wait for more people to respond before you take my word for it.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18964942 - 10/11/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not sure either, but I was under the impression that was mycelium. If it's not, that could be bad..


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18964963 - 10/11/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

to be clear here, your talking about the brownish spots ON the stems right or the white fluff on the casing? the white looks like healthy myc but the brown spots im not sure, could be rot or a contam, id carefully pick the ones that have the spot just to be safe, jmo


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: WonkaLand]
    #18964981 - 10/11/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I was talking about the spots on the stem, yes. I would pick them, I just don't want to lose weight for no reason, if it's still healthy. It isn't spreading, or getting noticeably worse, it just grows with the mushrooms as if it were a birth mark or something, it's weird. It also scrapes off, it's only on the surface of the mushroom, but i'd have to damage the mushroom to get it off. I only know this because I had 2 aborts that I was observing it on, which dried out looking okay to me.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18965129 - 10/11/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: saralove]
    #18965147 - 10/11/13 06:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks! Yeah, i've been having to put them on a shelf in a closet because of constantly having company over. Although I put them in the light often, I will put them in the light a lot more. As far as C02 though, how do those levels get high, and how do I get them down? FAE?


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18965219 - 10/11/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: saralove]
    #18965259 - 10/11/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you, i'm definitely going to do a lot of things different on my next grow. I'm learning from my mistakes on this one. :tongue2:


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18965398 - 10/11/13 07:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The stems look fine the spots don't look like contams IMO. I have had stems with those sorts of coloration before. as long as it's not 3D to the stem and wet looking it should be good. If it looks more like it's part of the stem perhaps like a mushroom freckle then it should be good to go. Everything there looks pretty good to me man.

I'm pretty sure most contamination will not happen on the actual fruit bodies except bacterial blotch which is a concern I have seen almost no one have encountered. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18965414 - 10/11/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wonderful!I hope they're okay, i'm going to keep a close watch on them, and if it gets any worse i'm definitely going to pull them out.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18967152 - 10/12/13 04:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any other ideas?


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18968070 - 10/12/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No one else here can shine some light on the situation?


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340] * 1
    #18968103 - 10/12/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:chillpill: man. Everything's been answered here. Your shit looks fine. Read the forums and look at some other peoples pictures for a while.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18968196 - 10/12/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That kinda looks like something I had on a couple of my grows and I looked at tymthel's contamination forum -"I probably misspelled the name" and I seen something like it and it said on the forum that when you pick it you can cut off the discolored spotted area and eat them with no ill effects so check that forum out.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18968256 - 10/12/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It looks clean but it looks too wet.

Mist less, fan more :wink:


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18968312 - 10/12/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It looks clean but it looks too wet.

Mist less, fan more :wink:





Alright thank you guys for the help, I'm going to do some more research and see if i can just peel it off.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18968322 - 10/12/13 01:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Peel what off? The wet mycelium?

That is all that is if you ask me. Looks like you have fuzzy feet that got too wet and haven't had a chance to dry properly.

It's not a contam. It looks fine. Just let your cakes look dry on the surface before you mist them again.

Mist until they glisten.

Fan.

Wait until the cakes no longer glisten.

Repeat.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18968323 - 10/12/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Just leave it, do not peel anything.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18968635 - 10/12/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Peel what off? The wet mycelium?

That is all that is if you ask me. Looks like you have fuzzy feet that got too wet and haven't had a chance to dry properly.

It's not a contam. It looks fine. Just let your cakes look dry on the surface before you mist them again.

Mist until they glisten.

Fan.

Wait until the cakes no longer glisten.

Repeat.




I was talking about the spots on the stem of the mushroom, it looks weird. But if it's healthy I won't peel it off.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18969056 - 10/12/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey Frank I'm not an expert but on the middle mushroom on the bottom picture there is a small bacterial contam and in later flushes he'll see more of this then it will in my experience it will start to stunt the growth of the mushrooms I have some decent experience with this. whether or not the bacterial spots will cause stomach irritation or not I don't know that because I followed tymthel's info in his contamination forum where is says he just shaved or cut off the bacterial spots and they were fine to eat the rest look fine but in later flushes I assure you whether you believe me or not it will spread.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: spaceman101]
    #18969084 - 10/12/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

sorry your pics are not too good I believe that might have confused frank and I hate to disagree with him since I've been following him and doing things the way he has showed since before he got his TC but I don't think you have fuzzy feet I see what I have seen before the beginnings of bacterial spots.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: spaceman101]
    #18969177 - 10/12/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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sorry your pics are not too good I believe that might have confused frank and I hate to disagree with him since I've been following him and doing things the way he has showed since before he got his TC but I don't think you have fuzzy feet I see what I have seen before the beginnings of bacterial spots.




Actually I can only see one image, not two...so perhaps that is the issue :lol:

Also I have been known to be wrong on multiple occassions so if you think I'm mistaken, feel free to question it my man. I'm still learning just like you are :wink:

Now I wonder why I can't see the second image :confused:

The image I can see looks good though, just wet.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18969426 - 10/12/13 06:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know what the issue is so the only pic you see is the one that shows the side of the fruiting chamber with condensation on it right? also too the pic is so bad I'm starting to believe even though I can see it is wet I also believe there is a large glare over the whole photo so cody if your still there try to get a better pic so we can get a better look at the problem?


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: spaceman101]
    #18971996 - 10/13/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't know what the issue is so the only pic you see is the one that shows the side of the fruiting chamber with condensation on it right? also too the pic is so bad I'm starting to believe even though I can see it is wet I also believe there is a large glare over the whole photo so cody if your still there try to get a better pic so we can get a better look at the problem?



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I don't know what the issue is so the only pic you see is the one that shows the side of the fruiting chamber with condensation on it right? also too the pic is so bad I'm starting to believe even though I can see it is wet I also believe there is a large glare over the whole photo so cody if your still there try to get a better pic so we can get a better look at the problem?








Maybe this will help, once again the quality of pictures suck because i'm using my iPhone, but maybe a different angle will make the difference.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: cody50340]
    #18972217 - 10/13/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yep you see how the bacterial spotted shrooms are side by side? If yours are anything like what I had it will spread a bit later on but I would say keep them growing. If you find Tymthel's contamination forum and look down through all the pics you'll see this there and he says to shave off the spots and dry or eat but it's never been discovered if the bacteria makes you sick or hurts your stomach or not.


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: spaceman101]
    #18972637 - 10/13/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That is not bacteria.

Those are just stains from water droplets, another indication of it being too wet or misted to heavily.

They look great. Just let them dry more before misting from now on :thumbup:


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Re: First grow, contamination? [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #18972766 - 10/13/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you!!!


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