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Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up?
    #18964114 - 10/11/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:pope:

I think not.  What say you?


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18964216 - 10/11/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think Jesus would approve of organized religion in general.

Its like asking me if I approve of the Nazis making the Jews wear armbands. Kinda missing the mark...


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: bloodsheen] * 1
    #18964217 - 10/11/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think he'd be more tolerant than you would expect...


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #18964298 - 10/11/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That's why he physically threw the money changers out of the temple. Tolerance.  :haha:


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18965552 - 10/11/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

he threw them out because they were doing something wrong. Jesus was concerned about right and wrong. as far as what the pope wears, I believe Jesus would be far more concerned with whether or not he was an honest man then how he dressed.

Being tolerant doesn't mean you should tolerate  people taking advantage of and exploiting the poor so they can get richer. Jesus was tolerant in the sense that he didn't care what someone's social status was or what their faults were, or what they had done in the past,  only whether they were willing to leave their old ways behind and follow The Way that he was preaching.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18965855 - 10/11/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Icelander said:
:pope:

I think not.  What say you?




Probably not too far removed from the temple priests, wearing head gear, semi-precious jeweled 'ephod' breast plate, you know, like the officiating Nazi anthropologist in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Iesous was opposed to the hypocrisy of the Pharisees, the unbelief in Resurrection by the Saducees, and the money-lenders providing shekels for those who wanted to buy doves, lambs, and goats for various blood sacrifices. But it would seem that he respected the religious traditions that had developed from the time of Moses. Of course, there is no archeological evidence for and Exodus of Hebrews to be found in Egypt, so possibly Iesous himself was influenced by the same myths that Jews and Christians still accept as being historical. That could mean that Iesous was right about what his ultimate nature was, his Being (and ours!), but his mind could be filled with the same human misunderstandings of the sacred stories that people have today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephod



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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18965906 - 10/11/13 09:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

He certainly wouldnt have approved of magic underwear



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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: barong]
    #18965947 - 10/11/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

God was a wizard, why not the pope.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18966290 - 10/11/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Unless Jesus was criminal wanting to take over the family business i doubt it.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Deviate]
    #18966684 - 10/12/13 01:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Deviate said:
he threw them out because they were doing something wrong. Jesus was concerned about right and wrong. as far as what the pope wears, I believe Jesus would be far more concerned with whether or not he was an honest man then how he dressed.

Being tolerant doesn't mean you should tolerate  people taking advantage of and exploiting the poor so they can get richer. Jesus was tolerant in the sense that he didn't care what someone's social status was or what their faults were, or what they had done in the past,  only whether they were willing to leave their old ways behind and follow The Way that he was preaching.




The clothes make the man.  How you dress says a ton about your values imo. :wink:


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18966706 - 10/12/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

what would Jesus say about the sith lord?




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I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18966717 - 10/12/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Probably that he seemed  a regular guy like me.


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Edited by Icelander (10/12/13 01:39 AM)


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18966718 - 10/12/13 01:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh wait



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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18966736 - 10/12/13 01:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)



It cannot be denied he was a snappy dresser and had some cool bling.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18966744 - 10/12/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and one stop shopping


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18966759 - 10/12/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

His version of one stop getto shopping.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Icelander]
    #18966992 - 10/12/13 03:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

it must be the shopocalypse


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #18967398 - 10/12/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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the unbelief in Resurrection by the Saducees




WHy didnt the saducees believe in the reserection? also can you talk a little about the evolution of afterlife belief from the earliest old testament times up until the new testament?

I have occasionally wondered how Jesus himself understood the jewish myths, for instance did he believe in the Noah's ark story literally, etc. in the NT his speaks about old testaments events as if they really happened (such as God giving the Israelites manna to eat in the desert).

Do you believe in any of the miracles described in the Bible markos? what about healing the sick and casting out demons and why does the Bible say thart we ourselves, should develop those abilities if we follow Christ correctly?


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Deviate]
    #18967538 - 10/12/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yo niggabrew, can I borrow some brown sugar?!


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Re: Do you think Jesus would approve of this get up? [Re: Deviate]
    #18968193 - 10/12/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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the unbelief in Resurrection by the Saducees




WHy didnt the saducees believe in the reserection? also can you talk a little about the evolution of afterlife belief from the earliest old testament times up until the new testament?

I have occasionally wondered how Jesus himself understood the jewish myths, for instance did he believe in the Noah's ark story literally, etc. in the NT his speaks about old testaments events as if they really happened (such as God giving the Israelites manna to eat in the desert).

Do you believe in any of the miracles described in the Bible markos? what about healing the sick and casting out demons and why does the Bible say thart we ourselves, should develop those abilities if we follow Christ correctly?




The Saducees simply weren't about the Resurrection. They were the more conservative Jews, and obviously, the more materialistic. The Pharisees, which were upbraided for their pride, nevertheless upheld the idea of Resurrection noted in Daniel. But be advised that this passage has several possible interpretations, with a general resurrection of the dead being only one. Christians, or non-Jews, more specifically, see the word Resurrection and they immediately interpret it through Chritian teachings, never considering that for pre-Christian Jews, the Christianized version didn't exist yet.
http://www.preteristcentral.com/The%20General%20Resurrection%20and%20the%20Book%20of%20Daniel.html

“And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at the time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt” (Dan. 12:1-2).

Nobody can presume to say how Iesous understood anything about the scriptures, however, I am fairly certain that he understood the notion of PRDS, unlike today's fucktard fundamentalist literalists: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardes_(Jewish_exegesis) So look at this Wiki article to help answer your question.

As for the miracle stories, I've posted this book repeatedly, and you'll have to read the book Christ in Egypt by D.M. Murdock to be convinced, or not, that the selected stories of miracles in the NT were lifted almost verbatim from the Coffin and Pyramid Texts of the Egyptians. The raising of Lazarus makes a whole lot more sense when one realizes that the cloth-wrapped Lazarus standing outside the tomb is both a reference to the Easter Resurrection as well as a descriptive reference to Osiris, Lord of Resurrection, well known back then. Osiris is the Greek name for Asar or Azar (whose wife Isis' name in Egyptian is Auset). Lazarus is L'azar, or 'of Azar,' or 'of Osiris,' etymologically, referring to Resurrection. But you'd have to see the many documentations of this sort to better understand.



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