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Enigma1
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casing tomorrow nube overview
#18962824 - 10/11/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm laying a small layer of pressurized casing on the bottom of pan then the grain and then another 1/2 casing layer on top. Sound alright? Do to this time of year I also had to buy premixed mix to.
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bodhisatta 
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962846 - 10/11/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enigma1 said: I'm laying a small layer of pressurized casing on the bottom of pan then the grain and then another 1/2 casing layer on top. Sound alright? Do to this time of year I also had to buy premixed mix to.
Don't pressurize your casings. You want them to be light and fluffy. Unless you meant pressure cooked and then that's no good either. You want properly pasteurized. What are you trying to grow? If it's cubensis then you don't need the casing.
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: bodhisatta]
#18962863 - 10/11/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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It sounds like hes trying to grow from just cased grains which is alright but a substrate without a casing would do much better
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bodhisatta 
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he really left a lot to the imagination. Just buy a brick of coir(pasteurize it) and spawn the grains to that in the tray. If you only have 1 or 2 quarts of grain and want to know how much coir and water to use I'll give you the math.
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Enigma1
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So just put the colonized grain in a tray by itself?
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962887 - 10/11/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only have 6 half pint jars
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962892 - 10/11/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No if you only have casing stuff and need to do this asap then case them but for the future spawn the grains to bulk(such as coir+verm or Hpoo) You'll get better yields and better fruiting performance. You can spawn to bulk with the tray still but it will be your grain spawn mixed up with the bulk substrate. The grains will inoculate/colonize the bulk substrate. The whole thing will end up as a brick of mycellium. Then you put that into fruiting conditions and this does not need a casing layer to work properly for cubes.
Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Frank's Proper Pasteurization Tek 3.0
Frank's Bulk Spawning Tek (in a monotub)
Now you don't have to use a monotub you can use the tray. There's a link in my signature to how I spawn my rye to bulk and use a shoebox size plastic tub as a tray and a SGFC to fruit the block.
How Frank gets shit done (link list)
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (10/11/13 07:45 AM)
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: bodhisatta]
#18962894 - 10/11/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: he really left a lot to the imagination. Just buy a brick of coir(pasteurize it) and spawn the grains to that in the tray. If you only have 1 or 2 quarts of grain and want to know how much coir and water to use I'll give you the math.
I thought I was going to be able to buy all this stuff local all the stores now have Christmas stuff in place of everything I want.
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962910 - 10/11/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Substrate shopping list.
Coir = pet shop less than 5$ for a brick
Vermiculite = garden store price varies shouldn't be more than 10$ for a lot of it
Water = don't use distilled anything but that works even tap water. Some people use diluted coffee as the water but you'll definitely want to properly pasteurize then.
gypsum = ace hardware/true value, garden store, pet store?, crumbled drywall. (not entirely necessary especially if you prep your grains with some gypsum)
That's all the stuff you need to make the bulk substrate you'll mix your grains with instead of a casing layer. The links go into good detail about how to get it to field capacity and properly pasteurize it and anything else you would need to know.
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962916 - 10/11/13 07:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn dude. This is not how you go about growing. Dont just dive into it with hardly any understanding of the process. Look up a few teks, study them, choose one you like and do exactly as it says. That easy.
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Enigma1
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SupaThaRipper said: Damn dude. This is not how you go about growing. Dont just dive into it with hardly any understanding of the process. Look up a few teks, study them, choose one you like and do exactly as it says. That easy.
You can dive into like this being a part of a great forum like this. It's not new to me just different. Hard to explain.
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bodhisatta 
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SupaThaRipper said: Damn dude. This is not how you go about growing. Dont just dive into it with hardly any understanding of the process. Look up a few teks, study them, choose one you like and do exactly as it says. That easy.
he already has colonized grains and pasteurized a casing layer. He's just asking a question. He probably just has out-dated info. Knowing to case grains means he knows enough of what he's doing to be able to deal with the up to date info.
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18962959 - 10/11/13 08:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enigma1 said: I'm laying a small layer of pressurized casing on the bottom of pan then the grain and then another 1/2 casing layer on top. Sound alright? Do to this time of year I also had to buy premixed mix to.
No, why would you need a casing layer under the grains?
Apply a casing layer over them, or spawn to bulk.
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: PussyFart]
#18962967 - 10/11/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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Enigma1 said: I'm laying a small layer of pressurized casing on the bottom of pan then the grain and then another 1/2 casing layer on top. Sound alright? Do to this time of year I also had to buy premixed mix to.
No, why would you need a casing layer under the grains?
Apply a casing layer over them, or spawn to bulk.
I seen it done on T.V. Lol
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: Enigma1]
#18963014 - 10/11/13 08:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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don't duplicate everything you've seen on tv in your life. I've seen a lot of weird stuff on TV
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bodhisatta 
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Re: casing tomorrow nube overview [Re: spacechildo]
#18963037 - 10/11/13 09:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I could see Billy Mays doing a mushroom infomercial. YOU HAVE TO MIX THE SUBSTRATE!!!!
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