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Lib cap ID from Holland
    #18959437 - 10/10/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hi,

Can someone tell me if I did my research right? This is my first pick and I'm looking for the liberty caps. Here are the pictures:



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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959440 - 10/10/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those are they. As always, be sure of each specimen.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959445 - 10/10/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice finds. 

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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959461 - 10/10/13 01:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And here is another batch but I was much less sure about these. The previous ones have a maximum diameter of the cap of 1.5 cm. These are somewhat bigger with the largest cap being 4 cm. Also the shape of the head is different and they have less of a sharp top. They looked similar and I thought they might be older being the reason the hat is opened fully.

Both species were growing in grasfield where cows were grazing.

Thanks!



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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959491 - 10/10/13 01:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

These ones aren't libs.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959492 - 10/10/13 01:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:mushroom2: Awesome! :mushroom2:

Thanks guys! Not sure about the second batch though.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959497 - 10/10/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Those bear some resemblance to grassland Deconica species I have found in the neighborhood of D. castanella.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959498 - 10/10/13 01:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ah I see, will liberty caps never open their hats this wide?


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18959502 - 10/10/13 01:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Ah I see, will liberty caps never open their hats this wide?




They can, more or less, but it is not common.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: canid]
    #18962706 - 10/11/13 06:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In another place I have found these, they strongly resemble the first batch above, but are more moist, and have caps more open. Can anyone ID these?




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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18962717 - 10/11/13 06:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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In another place I have found these, they strongly resemble the first batch above, but are more moist, and have caps more open. Can anyone ID these?







those 3 are libs


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18962719 - 10/11/13 06:26 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Either Psilocybe semilanceata or Psilocybe strictipes is most likely. Your other ones that are not, have the wrong cap and stem for Deconica imo, and I might call it Psathyrella sp.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: Joie]
    #18962804 - 10/11/13 07:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks. Good, so I found me some more. Have been on the search for 3 hours in two different areas now. I think I found only 15 small ones so far.

Can you tell me what is different about the stems? What do I have to look for? I already learned to avoid the ones with light gills and those with the darker stem. I now clearly see that the caps indeed can be wide open, even to the point I can see the gills from the side, which makes it somewhat confusing. One big difference from others is the little nipple and the orange like color of it. I have seen more orange like colored tops but those missed the tiny nipple on the orange nipple (if you know what I mean). I think I'm learning and certainly getting there. I might post some more pictures in the next few days to make sure I will become an expert. :smirk:


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18962901 - 10/11/13 07:43 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nice finds, The first set of pics for sure Liberty caps, I DNT even hunt them but once you look at the pictures for a few years to cannot mistake them. I would not have been to I.D. the last set of 3 mushies, do to them opening up so much, but remember to check for that separable gelatin like coating on the caps when wet and also bluing, learn the smell and maybe the taste, I dont believe that there are any mushrooms in you area that look close to liberty caps that would be harmful testing a small bite to check for the lib taste.... So put all that together , also inspect young specimens fresh in the field with a magnify glass and learn the colors and the different ways they can look through out there life cycle and how they change according to the growing conditions. GL


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18963138 - 10/11/13 09:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Libs have a quite firm, fibrous stem, and you can bend it somewhat before it breaks. Psathyrella have stems that snap.


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Re: Lib cap ID from Holland [Re: hype1]
    #18990253 - 10/17/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

170 :mushroom2: in 2-3 hours!

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