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Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid'
    #18961714 - 10/10/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid'
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They call it "acid" -- but it's not what you think. And that confusion may have cost a young Missouri student his life.

Ethan Rickman, a high school freshman from Northland, Mo., died last week after taking "acid," a synthetic hallucinogenic drug made to mimic the effects of LSD.

Rickman was rushed to an area hospital Oct. 4 after Platte County sheriff's deputies received a call about an unresponsive teenager. The 14-year-old died at the hospital. Another 14-year-old, who has not been identified, was also treated for the drug.

Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.

KCTV reports that two other teens now face drug charges related to the death. According to court documents, Krista Meeks, 17, allegedly sold six hits of a "research chemical drug" known as "acid" to Rickman and the other teenager Oct. 3 in order to settle a debt with 18-year-old Jamell Montgomery.

The Kansas City Star reported that the unnamed teenager originally approached Montgomery about buying drugs, but that Montgomery then referred him to Meeks.

Court documents say the copycat hallucinogen has effects so "harsh and violent" that the young woman, who admitted to being a heavy drug user, said she refused to try it.

Montgomery and Meeks are both charged with felony distribution of a synthetic controlled substance. Meeks also faces two marijuana-related misdemeanor counts.

A statement released by the Park Hill School District called Rickman "a bright, talented, fun-loving young man who played in a band," and noted that "his family donated his organs, which are already saving a life."

Law enforcement told KSHB that police have seen an increase in the availability of synthetic drugs such as "acid" on the market and in schools, in part because they are cheaper than their organic counterparts. The side effects of those drugs are also far more violent and dangerous.

Earlier this month, police in northern California seized several different kinds of illegal drugs after breaking up a wild house party in which a teenager reportedly spit blood at emergency personnel and used "superhuman strength" to block responders from entering.

Last week, a Tennessee man who allegedly took synthetic drugs claimed he was "a god" and jumped from a building multiple times. Even after responders got a hold of him, officers said that the man continued trying to hurt himself, and yelled at police to kill him with a "shotgun to the face."

In September, the horrific homemade drug krokodil was reported for the first time in the U.S. with two related cases in Arizona. The "flesh-eating" drug, which in some cases reportedly causes users' flesh to rot off the bone, was also reported outside Chicago this week.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan]
    #18961729 - 10/10/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

crocodyl in chitown now awsomegetn me some o that!!
but wtf what was the drug fake acid is not a drug what was it??  ?


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: lighthouse09]
    #18961745 - 10/10/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: The Vapor]
    #18961767 - 10/10/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The Vapor said:
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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

:facepalm:



:aweohyou:

Hi, yes, can I please have the LSD form of acid? Yes, that's right, not the not-acid form of acid. Cool thanks!


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #18961788 - 10/10/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Guaranty its 25i-NBOMe


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
    #18961831 - 10/10/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I've heard folks around here talk about it before. Sounds like some nasty stuff.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Le_Canard]
    #18961884 - 10/10/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Nbome prob


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18962040 - 10/10/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude all these new research hallucinogens are making people drop like flies.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18962085 - 10/10/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Poor kid. RIP. I hate when shit like that happens. And I blame the drug war. I blame politics in just the same way as I blame past legislation for the death of women when abortion was outlawed. I also blame social stigma and taboos against recreational drug use. The struggle for legalisation should not be centered solely around junkies who need clean heroin, it should also include experimental/recreational drug use and recognise that the occasional use and curiosity for mind-altering substances is entirely concordant with human nature and the need to experiment and experience what the world has to offer. It makes me feel so horrible to think that 50 years ago, this poor boy could have been having a fantastic psychedelic trip with real, quality-controlled Sandoz LSD instead of the awful junk that was falsely sold to him as acid (by the way, if you sell something as ACID, you ARE implying that you are selling LSD...if your product is anything but acid, you are committing fraud). It also makes me shiver to think about all the shroomery members who could easily end up in a similar situation as this teenager...it just takes one careless purchase to end up with serious health issues.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18962106 - 10/10/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

honestly you can't blame the drug war. You need to blame the people who sell RC's as acid! that's just wrong.. Kid probably just thought he was gonna have a life changing acid trip.. instead hes dead.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Freedreamer]
    #18962125 - 10/10/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18962140 - 10/10/13 11:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Funny how they don't seem to talk much about teens drinking too much and dying, despite it being far more prevalent.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18962160 - 10/10/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
honestly you can't blame the drug war. You need to blame the people who sell RC's as acid! that's just wrong.. Kid probably just thought he was gonna have a life changing acid trip.. instead hes dead.




I do blame the drug war because it creates the perfect terrain for a black market. The black market operates on a savage-capitalism model because it is illegal and is therefore in no way obliged to play by any set of rules; the only rule is profit, profit at the expense of product quality (and as a result, safety of the consumer). It is a very natural tendency to seek out maximum profit by cutting short on quality, and it happens in all commercial sectors. The government sure as hell knows this and it also knows the offer-and-demand rule...


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: The Vapor]
    #18962183 - 10/11/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The Vapor said:
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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

:facepalm:




Ecstasy no longer = MDMA, with thew new, potent RCs it isn't a surprise that Acid no longer = LSD.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18962220 - 10/11/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Wish some of you guys would stop blaming all bad drug incidents on prohibition.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18962262 - 10/11/13 12:44 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Not all, but many.
Had LSD been legal and his hit prepared in a quality controlled lab, he would still be alive.
Look at alcohol, it may have a lot of issues itself, but how many people buy a bottle of Rum at local store and wonder if it contains methanol and will make them blind?


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18962277 - 10/11/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whathesaid:
A very large portion of drug-related deaths could be avoided by lifting the ban on recreational drugs. Heroin ODs are most often caused by shifts in purity from one batch of heroin to the next (sadly, this is how Janis Joplin dies), ODs from psychedelics are caused by dealers passing off RCs as real LSD, ecstasy/MDMA deaths are caused by shitheads selling adulterated pills, and the list goes on....This is a very real consequence of prohibition.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: lighthouse09]
    #18962364 - 10/11/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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lighthouse09 said:
crocodyl in chitown now awsomegetn me some o that!!
but wtf what was the drug fake acid is not a drug what was it??  ?



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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan]
    #18962386 - 10/11/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

CAN ANYBODY POST A REAL LINK?

wHEN I CLICK THE LINK IT SENDS ME IN A LOOP TO THIS EXACT THREAD

WHAT THE FUCK


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: The Vapor] * 1
    #18962434 - 10/11/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The Vapor said:
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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

:facepalm:


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"Ya Dawg its liquid that's 100% concentrated so it's double² acid acid:ancientaliens:"
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"As wet as can be"
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18962597 - 10/11/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: ilus]
    #18962664 - 10/11/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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illustrain said:
Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




Def already is. At 100 bucks for 1000 doses what skeezy ass dealer isn't gonna capitalize on it. Something I hate about all this too is the bad name it gives all research chems. Sure 95% of them should not be toyed with at this point in time strictly due to lack of knowledge but I feel some golden ones get brushed to the side such as 4-aco-dmt.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #18963174 - 10/11/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When is a door not a door? When it's a jar.

A jar of toxic shit labelled as acid and sold as such.

I think consumers are equally responsible as those who prohibit these substances. I am a "recovering" heroin addict, I have never tried a new batch or any batch for that matter without doing a small dose first to test quality etc.


The same should be done with any drug one is planning to consume. I will admit that it is unlikely that a 14 year old is going to know what real LSD feels like, but he still should have done a small amount first to gauge his reaction.

Even in the early 90's I knew full well that "ecstasy" was cut with all kinds of crap, that is why I never did it until powdered MDMA became cheap and commonly available. I don't even like MDMA so luckily that is one arena of dubious quality I have avoided on the whole.


It is a sad story and I am not trying to sound callous. I think the media referring to random Rc's as "acid" is also very dangerous and irresponsible. That is how misinformation spreads and people begin to lump one compound in with others.

Those consuming drugs hold the ultimately responsibility for what they put into their bodies, though dealers selling one thing as another are the lowest of the low.

:mad:


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: ilus]
    #18963539 - 10/11/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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illustrain said:
Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




It's been a blanket term since LSD and it's anologues became popular. The DOx family was and still is often sold as acid.

Every time I got nbome it was always sold to me as acid, I've tried explaining to several people there's a big difference, no one gives a shit and would rather call it acid cuz it sounds catchier than nbome.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan]
    #18963946 - 10/11/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The fault here lies with the dealer for referring to RC's as "acid" as if to imply that they were LSD and not RC's.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Synthe]
    #18964528 - 10/11/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now in days to most of this generation if its on a blotter it called acid no matter what chem it is(which is resiculous). The other day i got offered some biker acid at the skatepark from some bikers....apperently it was 2cb. But they were calling it acid, but at least when i asked if it was real lsd they said no its 2cb.


But when i here acid, i think lsd...but the new generation doesnt understand that very well.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: 2bakednate]
    #18964620 - 10/11/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"Acid" in no way should imply LSD-25. It's the shortened chemical name DyACID. What if 5-MeO-DMT was being sold to people as DMT?

^^up there with that 4-aco comment, yeah I still have about 150mg or so. Loved that stuff, but luckily it isn't passed around as something else. Nobody I know has heard of it, and that's GOOD.

But this blanket term of Acid meaning anything on blotter is some bullshit. I took a blotter in college, knew something was wrong when it numbed and tasted bitter and made water taste like eating glass. My friend's swore it was LSD because all three of them saw fun stuff. I just felt wired as hell and no visuals whatsoever but some psychosis. And they kept taking that shit from the same guy. Lol it's actually the trip in my signature. I can't believe they'd keep taking an XX chemical like that. This drug war creates synth's and knock-offs which in turn creates deaths. When will they learn that people want to get high???


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18964930 - 10/11/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
honestly you can't blame the drug war. You need to blame the people who sell RC's as acid! that's just wrong.. Kid probably just thought he was gonna have a life changing acid trip.. instead hes dead.



you can and should blame the drug war for creating an environment where any of this would ever happen


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18965282 - 10/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Gorlax said:
honestly you can't blame the drug war.



Oh really now? I would love to hear this...


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18965312 - 10/11/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MrMagicMushroom said:
Guaranty its 25i-NBOMe




Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
I've heard folks around here talk about it before. Sounds like some nasty stuff.




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MescalitoMagnality said:
Nbome prob




i fucking lost it that shib...
i was so sure i was gonna die.
and it roughed me up pretty bad.. a year later and im still frY'd.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Forest.dweller]
    #18965357 - 10/11/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Look let's throw it all out there, acid is 25i-NBOME or 25c-NBOME, Trees or green as its called is defiantley cocaine, heroin goes by the name crank or twerk a leek, MDMA or ectasy is methylone or 6-apb, methamphetamine goes by the name drank and syrup and we all know that LSD goes by the street name meth, crank, speed etc, let's not be getting facts confused now god damnt.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: highc]
    #18965368 - 10/11/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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highc said:
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illustrain said:
Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




Def already is. At 100 bucks for 1000 doses what skeezy ass dealer isn't gonna capitalize on it. Something I hate about all this too is the bad name it gives all research chems. Sure 95% of them should not be toyed with at this point in time strictly due to lack of knowledge but I feel some golden ones get brushed to the side such as 4-aco-dmt.



Maybe we should keep it that way so those of us who know better can continue to enjoy them. :shrug:


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18965593 - 10/11/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The Vapor said:
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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

:facepalm:







Seriously. I was going to focus in on this one as well. Honestly, that line makes it sound like they're letting fucking fifteen year olds write these articles now.


Which is sad, when you think about it-- that the ability of the average journalist to google and find info about a drug is about on par with (often times seemingly worse than) that of a freshman in highschool.


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Dude all these new research hallucinogens are making people drop like flies.






There are some nasty RCs out there, but it's mainly the NBOMes that have been dropping kids like flies. And yet oddly enough, these chems still seem to have so many defenders. It's like they hav somehow missed the two hundred articles in the last year (and countless personal accounts via forum) about people having horrible reactions, like seizure, or death, to these drugs.


Just last week or so a noob in the news forum was going on about how awesome and "clean" 25i is.



:rolleyes:



Yeah, tell that to the dead kids. Even better, just assume (quite foolishly) that it was personal stupidity in every case, and that this stuff isn't horrible poison like much evidence currently suggests.


Whatever floats your boat, I guess.



I'm just getting sick of hearing about it. Especially about it being sold "as LSD" which I believe a majority of cases are. I don't know who these scumbags are, but part of me hopes they get caught, and raped in prison for the rest of their worthless lives.

My bro tells me he recently encountered a KID who has like 70 sheets of this garbage.


70 sheets.


All being sold as "LSD."





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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18965630 - 10/11/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Which is sad, when you think about it-- that the ability of the average journalist to google and find info about a drug is about on par with (often times seemingly worse than) that of a freshman in highschool.





The saddest part is how fucking competitive and difficult journalism school is and how very few who get through it ever actually can even become a journalist.

I majored in English in college and this shit just wouldn't have flied with my professors. It was extremely difficult to please them. Wrote sooo many essays in my college career it wasn't funny. Why it flies in the real world is beyond me.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18967068 - 10/12/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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StygianKnight said:
Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967198 - 10/12/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wish these stupid dirty fucking RCs were never introduced. Man fuck these things. It's bad enough you got the retarded ass media calling them substances that they're not but now there are waves of uninformed kids and drug users keeling over left and right because of the shit.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967870 - 10/12/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.



What?  That's bullshit.
LSD was legal in the 60s and didn't destroy society or ruin people's mental health.
It did cure alcoholism and lead to Anti-war/violence sentiments, so the government quickly banned it.  Ya know, for our health.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Niffla]
    #18967898 - 10/12/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish these stupid dirty fucking RCs were never introduced. Man fuck these things. It's bad enough you got the retarded ass media calling them substances that they're not but now there are waves of uninformed kids and drug users keeling over left and right because of the shit.





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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18967940 - 10/12/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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...it just takes one careless purchase to end up with serious health issues.




This is why the only psychs I take are the ones I produce myself.

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Wish some of you guys would stop blaming all bad drug incidents on prohibition.




Anytime a death is attributed to an adulterant or something being passed off as something else you pretty much have to blame prohibition. When people intend to ingest something like LSD or weed which is proven to be extremely safe, and die because they just ingested an untested RC, prohibition is the main culprit. Last week in my town a couple kids just died smoking some kind of "synthetic" weed. What do you thing the chances are that they would have died from smoking some nice kush?

Obviously the potential exists for people to hurt themselves on clean, quality controled drugs. Foolish decisions like driving on drugs are going to happen. But its not like prohibition has been successful at preventing that shit from happening anyway :shrug: Lets at least remove some of the random corruption from the equation.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967954 - 10/12/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.





You don't sound like the same mellowparty... its almost someone else has control over your account :cop:


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18968026 - 10/12/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If Scheduling didn't produce a sort of chemical arms race where producers are trying to stay one 'legal' step ahead of the law it wouldn't be a problem.
The average user would take the tried, true and safe drugs, THC, LSD, Psilocybin, MDMA etc. and the educated experimenter would be taking the RCs, occasionally handing one down to the public if it's found effective and safe, like 2C-B which was an RC not so long ago.

Instead you have someone looking for the safe drugs who accidentally found an unsafe one because someone down the line went the legal route to try and step around prohibition.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18970667 - 10/13/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.



What?  That's bullshit.
LSD was legal in the 60s and didn't destroy society or ruin people's mental health.
It did cure alcoholism and lead to Anti-war/violence sentiments, so the government quickly banned it.  Ya know, for our health.



I think your extremely biased opinion is bullshit.

LSD didn't cure alcoholism and its not unlikely for it to ruin someones mental health under irresponsible/unsupervised conditions. I see people on the shroomery (and other forums) every once in a while complaining how LSD ruined their minds in one way or another. I'm not saying its common but considering the masses are taking it (and we all know how dumb they are) its bound to cause freakouts and deaths (it happened in the 60s).

That being said I believe LSD should be available to responsible users and severe penalties (heavy fines and long prison terms) should be in place for users endangering others as a result of their irresponsible use (DIU, performing medical procedures etc.).

Also don't try to glamorize the 60s psychedelic movement. Most of them were/are burnout scum that bitched about politics but didn't do anything in particular to defend their cause. Also they rebelled against a system that they depended on.

Like I said revise your extremely biased attitude cause it won't lead to anything good.

Also I don't use LSD anymore.

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StygianKnight said:
Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.





You don't sound like the same mellowparty... its almost someone else has control over your account :cop:



You might be onto something here :strokebeard:


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18970825 - 10/13/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're right. I've mentioned it before, but I don't see why so many people see LSD as some drug that's all positive. Some kid has a terrible trip on some RC psychedelic, and people will say things like "that wouldn't have happened if he got legit acid."

Plenty of people don't use drugs simply because they're illegal and stick to things like alcohol, and we all know how irresponsible some people can be while drinking.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18970933 - 10/13/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:ahahaha:
What Gov propaganda film on the 60s did you watch?
You sound like a prohibitionist square.
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LSD didn't cure alcoholism and its not unlikely for it to ruin someones mental health under irresponsible/unsupervised conditions.




Well ya know, except in the journal published study where when evaluated years later 1/2 of long term alcoholics those who went through a single LSD assisted therapy never drank again.
But I'll take your totally not biased opinion.  How many stories have you read again?  Like bunches?  Science just can't compete with that.

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Some kid has a terrible trip on some RC psychedelic, and people will say things like "that wouldn't have happened if he got legit acid."



Lol I liked how you confused Dead for "terrible trip". 
Yep, a bad LSD trip is like totally equal or maybe even worse than dying from overdose.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18970986 - 10/13/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I know about the deaths. But I specifically mentioned bad trips, because I've actually seen people try to make that excuse before. People can still die from using LSD also, whether it's indirect to use or not. People have murdered people while using lsd and other natural psychs too.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18971566 - 10/13/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You sound like a prohibitionist square.



Yeah well I've explored both sides of the problem and I can tell you 100% that you are biased as a result of your drug use. I don't use LSD anymore but if you think that its widespread use due to a legal paradigm shift won't cause trouble then you are a fool.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18972462 - 10/13/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

You sound like a prohibitionist square.



Yeah well I've explored both sides of the problem and I can tell you 100% that you are biased as a result of your drug use. I don't use LSD anymore but if you think that its widespread use due to a legal paradigm shift won't cause trouble then you are a fool.




LSD has been decriminalized for personal use in several countries and it doesn't seem to be a problem...yet..:grin:


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