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InvisibleStygianKnight
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18968026 - 10/12/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If Scheduling didn't produce a sort of chemical arms race where producers are trying to stay one 'legal' step ahead of the law it wouldn't be a problem.
The average user would take the tried, true and safe drugs, THC, LSD, Psilocybin, MDMA etc. and the educated experimenter would be taking the RCs, occasionally handing one down to the public if it's found effective and safe, like 2C-B which was an RC not so long ago.

Instead you have someone looking for the safe drugs who accidentally found an unsafe one because someone down the line went the legal route to try and step around prohibition.


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Offlinemellowparty
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18970667 - 10/13/13 12:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.



What?  That's bullshit.
LSD was legal in the 60s and didn't destroy society or ruin people's mental health.
It did cure alcoholism and lead to Anti-war/violence sentiments, so the government quickly banned it.  Ya know, for our health.



I think your extremely biased opinion is bullshit.

LSD didn't cure alcoholism and its not unlikely for it to ruin someones mental health under irresponsible/unsupervised conditions. I see people on the shroomery (and other forums) every once in a while complaining how LSD ruined their minds in one way or another. I'm not saying its common but considering the masses are taking it (and we all know how dumb they are) its bound to cause freakouts and deaths (it happened in the 60s).

That being said I believe LSD should be available to responsible users and severe penalties (heavy fines and long prison terms) should be in place for users endangering others as a result of their irresponsible use (DIU, performing medical procedures etc.).

Also don't try to glamorize the 60s psychedelic movement. Most of them were/are burnout scum that bitched about politics but didn't do anything in particular to defend their cause. Also they rebelled against a system that they depended on.

Like I said revise your extremely biased attitude cause it won't lead to anything good.

Also I don't use LSD anymore.

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StygianKnight said:
Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.





You don't sound like the same mellowparty... its almost someone else has control over your account :cop:



You might be onto something here :strokebeard:


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InvisibleEminence
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18970825 - 10/13/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

You're right. I've mentioned it before, but I don't see why so many people see LSD as some drug that's all positive. Some kid has a terrible trip on some RC psychedelic, and people will say things like "that wouldn't have happened if he got legit acid."

Plenty of people don't use drugs simply because they're illegal and stick to things like alcohol, and we all know how irresponsible some people can be while drinking.


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InvisibleStygianKnight
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18970933 - 10/13/13 02:24 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:ahahaha:
What Gov propaganda film on the 60s did you watch?
You sound like a prohibitionist square.
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mellowparty said:
LSD didn't cure alcoholism and its not unlikely for it to ruin someones mental health under irresponsible/unsupervised conditions.




Well ya know, except in the journal published study where when evaluated years later 1/2 of long term alcoholics those who went through a single LSD assisted therapy never drank again.
But I'll take your totally not biased opinion.  How many stories have you read again?  Like bunches?  Science just can't compete with that.

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frylock91 said:
Some kid has a terrible trip on some RC psychedelic, and people will say things like "that wouldn't have happened if he got legit acid."



Lol I liked how you confused Dead for "terrible trip". 
Yep, a bad LSD trip is like totally equal or maybe even worse than dying from overdose.


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InvisibleEminence
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18970986 - 10/13/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I know about the deaths. But I specifically mentioned bad trips, because I've actually seen people try to make that excuse before. People can still die from using LSD also, whether it's indirect to use or not. People have murdered people while using lsd and other natural psychs too.


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Offlinemellowparty
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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18971566 - 10/13/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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You sound like a prohibitionist square.



Yeah well I've explored both sides of the problem and I can tell you 100% that you are biased as a result of your drug use. I don't use LSD anymore but if you think that its widespread use due to a legal paradigm shift won't cause trouble then you are a fool.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18972462 - 10/13/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
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You sound like a prohibitionist square.



Yeah well I've explored both sides of the problem and I can tell you 100% that you are biased as a result of your drug use. I don't use LSD anymore but if you think that its widespread use due to a legal paradigm shift won't cause trouble then you are a fool.




LSD has been decriminalized for personal use in several countries and it doesn't seem to be a problem...yet..:grin:


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