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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: dark3st]
    #18962597 - 10/11/13 04:38 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: ilus]
    #18962664 - 10/11/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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illustrain said:
Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




Def already is. At 100 bucks for 1000 doses what skeezy ass dealer isn't gonna capitalize on it. Something I hate about all this too is the bad name it gives all research chems. Sure 95% of them should not be toyed with at this point in time strictly due to lack of knowledge but I feel some golden ones get brushed to the side such as 4-aco-dmt.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan] * 1
    #18963174 - 10/11/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

When is a door not a door? When it's a jar.

A jar of toxic shit labelled as acid and sold as such.

I think consumers are equally responsible as those who prohibit these substances. I am a "recovering" heroin addict, I have never tried a new batch or any batch for that matter without doing a small dose first to test quality etc.


The same should be done with any drug one is planning to consume. I will admit that it is unlikely that a 14 year old is going to know what real LSD feels like, but he still should have done a small amount first to gauge his reaction.

Even in the early 90's I knew full well that "ecstasy" was cut with all kinds of crap, that is why I never did it until powdered MDMA became cheap and commonly available. I don't even like MDMA so luckily that is one arena of dubious quality I have avoided on the whole.


It is a sad story and I am not trying to sound callous. I think the media referring to random Rc's as "acid" is also very dangerous and irresponsible. That is how misinformation spreads and people begin to lump one compound in with others.

Those consuming drugs hold the ultimately responsibility for what they put into their bodies, though dealers selling one thing as another are the lowest of the low.

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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: ilus]
    #18963539 - 10/11/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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illustrain said:
Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




It's been a blanket term since LSD and it's anologues became popular. The DOx family was and still is often sold as acid.

Every time I got nbome it was always sold to me as acid, I've tried explaining to several people there's a big difference, no one gives a shit and would rather call it acid cuz it sounds catchier than nbome.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Ythan]
    #18963946 - 10/11/13 01:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The fault here lies with the dealer for referring to RC's as "acid" as if to imply that they were LSD and not RC's.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Synthe]
    #18964528 - 10/11/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Now in days to most of this generation if its on a blotter it called acid no matter what chem it is(which is resiculous). The other day i got offered some biker acid at the skatepark from some bikers....apperently it was 2cb. But they were calling it acid, but at least when i asked if it was real lsd they said no its 2cb.


But when i here acid, i think lsd...but the new generation doesnt understand that very well.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: 2bakednate]
    #18964620 - 10/11/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"Acid" in no way should imply LSD-25. It's the shortened chemical name DyACID. What if 5-MeO-DMT was being sold to people as DMT?

^^up there with that 4-aco comment, yeah I still have about 150mg or so. Loved that stuff, but luckily it isn't passed around as something else. Nobody I know has heard of it, and that's GOOD.

But this blanket term of Acid meaning anything on blotter is some bullshit. I took a blotter in college, knew something was wrong when it numbed and tasted bitter and made water taste like eating glass. My friend's swore it was LSD because all three of them saw fun stuff. I just felt wired as hell and no visuals whatsoever but some psychosis. And they kept taking that shit from the same guy. Lol it's actually the trip in my signature. I can't believe they'd keep taking an XX chemical like that. This drug war creates synth's and knock-offs which in turn creates deaths. When will they learn that people want to get high???


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18964930 - 10/11/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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honestly you can't blame the drug war. You need to blame the people who sell RC's as acid! that's just wrong.. Kid probably just thought he was gonna have a life changing acid trip.. instead hes dead.



you can and should blame the drug war for creating an environment where any of this would ever happen


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18965282 - 10/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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honestly you can't blame the drug war.



Oh really now? I would love to hear this...


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18965312 - 10/11/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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MrMagicMushroom said:
Guaranty its 25i-NBOMe




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ToiletDuk said:
I've heard folks around here talk about it before. Sounds like some nasty stuff.




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Nbome prob




i fucking lost it that shib...
i was so sure i was gonna die.
and it roughed me up pretty bad.. a year later and im still frY'd.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Forest.dweller]
    #18965357 - 10/11/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Look let's throw it all out there, acid is 25i-NBOME or 25c-NBOME, Trees or green as its called is defiantley cocaine, heroin goes by the name crank or twerk a leek, MDMA or ectasy is methylone or 6-apb, methamphetamine goes by the name drank and syrup and we all know that LSD goes by the street name meth, crank, speed etc, let's not be getting facts confused now god damnt.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: highc]
    #18965368 - 10/11/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ugh, i sure as fuck hope that "acid" doesnt become a blanket term like molly is unfortunately becoming.  That would be extremely sad.




Def already is. At 100 bucks for 1000 doses what skeezy ass dealer isn't gonna capitalize on it. Something I hate about all this too is the bad name it gives all research chems. Sure 95% of them should not be toyed with at this point in time strictly due to lack of knowledge but I feel some golden ones get brushed to the side such as 4-aco-dmt.



Maybe we should keep it that way so those of us who know better can continue to enjoy them. :shrug:


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Gorlax]
    #18965593 - 10/11/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Court documents state that the drug was "not the LSD form of acid," though Rickman thought it was.




Just when you think you have plumbed the depths of stupidity, you hear new shit like this..

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Seriously. I was going to focus in on this one as well. Honestly, that line makes it sound like they're letting fucking fifteen year olds write these articles now.


Which is sad, when you think about it-- that the ability of the average journalist to google and find info about a drug is about on par with (often times seemingly worse than) that of a freshman in highschool.


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Dude all these new research hallucinogens are making people drop like flies.






There are some nasty RCs out there, but it's mainly the NBOMes that have been dropping kids like flies. And yet oddly enough, these chems still seem to have so many defenders. It's like they hav somehow missed the two hundred articles in the last year (and countless personal accounts via forum) about people having horrible reactions, like seizure, or death, to these drugs.


Just last week or so a noob in the news forum was going on about how awesome and "clean" 25i is.



:rolleyes:



Yeah, tell that to the dead kids. Even better, just assume (quite foolishly) that it was personal stupidity in every case, and that this stuff isn't horrible poison like much evidence currently suggests.


Whatever floats your boat, I guess.



I'm just getting sick of hearing about it. Especially about it being sold "as LSD" which I believe a majority of cases are. I don't know who these scumbags are, but part of me hopes they get caught, and raped in prison for the rest of their worthless lives.

My bro tells me he recently encountered a KID who has like 70 sheets of this garbage.


70 sheets.


All being sold as "LSD."





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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: CidneyIndole]
    #18965630 - 10/11/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Which is sad, when you think about it-- that the ability of the average journalist to google and find info about a drug is about on par with (often times seemingly worse than) that of a freshman in highschool.





The saddest part is how fucking competitive and difficult journalism school is and how very few who get through it ever actually can even become a journalist.

I majored in English in college and this shit just wouldn't have flied with my professors. It was extremely difficult to please them. Wrote sooo many essays in my college career it wasn't funny. Why it flies in the real world is beyond me.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: StygianKnight]
    #18967068 - 10/12/13 04:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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StygianKnight said:
Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967198 - 10/12/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wish these stupid dirty fucking RCs were never introduced. Man fuck these things. It's bad enough you got the retarded ass media calling them substances that they're not but now there are waves of uninformed kids and drug users keeling over left and right because of the shit.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967870 - 10/12/13 11:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.



What?  That's bullshit.
LSD was legal in the 60s and didn't destroy society or ruin people's mental health.
It did cure alcoholism and lead to Anti-war/violence sentiments, so the government quickly banned it.  Ya know, for our health.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Niffla]
    #18967898 - 10/12/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I wish these stupid dirty fucking RCs were never introduced. Man fuck these things. It's bad enough you got the retarded ass media calling them substances that they're not but now there are waves of uninformed kids and drug users keeling over left and right because of the shit.





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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: Eminence]
    #18967940 - 10/12/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Freedreamer said:
...it just takes one careless purchase to end up with serious health issues.




This is why the only psychs I take are the ones I produce myself.

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Wish some of you guys would stop blaming all bad drug incidents on prohibition.




Anytime a death is attributed to an adulterant or something being passed off as something else you pretty much have to blame prohibition. When people intend to ingest something like LSD or weed which is proven to be extremely safe, and die because they just ingested an untested RC, prohibition is the main culprit. Last week in my town a couple kids just died smoking some kind of "synthetic" weed. What do you thing the chances are that they would have died from smoking some nice kush?

Obviously the potential exists for people to hurt themselves on clean, quality controled drugs. Foolish decisions like driving on drugs are going to happen. But its not like prohibition has been successful at preventing that shit from happening anyway :shrug: Lets at least remove some of the random corruption from the equation.


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Re: Ethan Rickman, 14, Dies After Taking Synthetic Drug 'Acid' [Re: mellowparty]
    #18967954 - 10/12/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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StygianKnight said:
Sad.
Prohibition kills another.
Had LSD been legal there would be no story.



If acid was legal a lot more people would probably be dead from it indirectly or have their mental health ruined. Legal LSD would be a disaster because the masses can't handle it.





You don't sound like the same mellowparty... its almost someone else has control over your account :cop:


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