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Formosa's in N. America...active or not?
#18961404 - 10/10/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i'm reading contracting stances on this.
i thought 'Mushrooms Demystified' would give me a solid answer, but he doesn't brake down the A.M.'s into the different ver., so... can anyone tell me if formosa's in North America (Minnesota, specifically) are active or not?
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: broken]
#18962953 - 10/11/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think you mean mimosa....and I don't believe they have enough DMT in them to extract if that is your question.
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#18963476 - 10/11/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They are not DMT containing and no one has found any alkaloids of interest in them
They are not mushrooms so why would you consult a mushroom book???
They are not in the same genus as mimosa hostillis or acacia Very distant and boring relative
See: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albizia_julibrissin
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: HarryL]
#18963551 - 10/11/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=66049
This guy tried them fresh unfortunately and woke up with a cathether in his dick after nearly dying.
in his words:
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I wanted to really get this trip out there because by far it was the worst experience I have ever had on any kind of drug. I am an experienced experimenter, and have more than dabbled in a fair share of at least the fairly recognized drugs, from datura to DMT.
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: Thayendanegea]
#18963778 - 10/11/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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baltimark said: I think you mean mimosa....and I don't believe they have enough DMT in them to extract if that is your question.
I'm pretty sure he means Amanita muscaria var Formosa
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18963971 - 10/11/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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baltimark said: I think you mean mimosa....and I don't believe they have enough DMT in them to extract if that is your question.
I'm pretty sure he means Amanita muscaria var Formosa
You're prolly right then....didn't know there was such a variant ...good job.
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18964230 - 10/11/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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MrMagicMushroom said: I'm pretty sure he means Amanita muscaria var Formosa
yes, those are the mushrooms i am taking about. they are jumping up all over in a woods i like to walk in. so, are they active or not? i know they don't contain psilocybin, but do they have muscimol?
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: broken]
#18966006 - 10/11/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Correct me of I'm wrong anyone, but i do believe all muscaria variations have muscimol
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: MrMagicMushroom]
#18966298 - 10/11/13 11:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ahhhhhhhh.... Sorry
Helps to get the genus and species in addition to the variation As far as I know, all amanita muscaria have pyschoactive ingredients And as far as I am concerned, they aren't a good mushroom
Dry/cook and do research on them prior to ingestion
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: HarryL]
#18966760 - 10/12/13 01:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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HarryL said: Ahhhhhhhh.... Sorry
Helps to get the genus and species in addition to the variation
sorry, i know to be more specific now.
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As far as I know, all amanita muscaria have pyschoactive ingredients
that's what i thought as well, and that is the impression i get from Mushrooms Demystified.
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And as far as I am concerned, they aren't a good mushroom
why not? i want to try them, just to try them.
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Dry/cook and do research on them prior to ingestion
yes, thank you, i have done research on the preparation.
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: broken]
#18967552 - 10/12/13 08:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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All Amanita muscaria species and their variants are psychoactive, containing muscimol and ibotenic acid. Amanita muscaria v. formosa is a european variant and isnt found it america. I have the exact same book as you, but time and time again, I've seen T.I.'s (Trusted Identifers) confirm that the formosa variant is not found in America. I post a lot in Mushroom Hunting and Identification and have hunted A. muscaria quite a few times myself.
Ive smoked, eaten, extracted, and drank the tea of this mushroom. Potency tends to vary greatly from mushroom to mushroom. The most potent part of the mushroom is found just under the cap's top layer. The "high" ranges from excessive salivation and a feeling of drunkenness, to an uncomfortable nausea and dream-like state. Heating and/or drying converts a lot of the nausea-causing ibotenic acid into the more psycoactive muscimol.
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: Azmirth]
#18972191 - 10/13/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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well i have two books that say it's very common in North America...
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: broken]
#18981659 - 10/15/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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from http://www.mushroomexpert.com/amanita_muscaria_guessowii.html (updated in april 2013) "This mushroom is often featured in field guides as "Amanita muscaria var. formosa," but the variety name formosa designates a European variety (and one that is not consistently described in European literature). However, the varietal epithet guessowii represents a North American mushroom, and was first applied by Veselý (1933) to recognize the version of Amanita muscaria described by Hans Güssow, a Canadian author."
Older books tend to need updating as name changes and whatnot happen quite frequently in the mycological world
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Re: Formosa's in N. America...active or not? [Re: Azmirth]
#18987396 - 10/16/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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