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lonelyjew
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Monotub help.
#18960581 - 10/10/13 05:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright i have searched the forums and cannot find a tek on how to make the actually monotub
I will be using damions coir tek and Docs WBS tek for the substrate and i will be using a 66qt sterilite tub.
this is the tek im using for self healing mason jars http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004
1.how and where do i place the holes because i have no idea how high the substrate/spawn mix will be?
2.how big are the holes supposed to be?
3.Could i get an estimation on the total time a monotub will take from inoculation to harvest?
thanks.
Also if i were to cook the coir brick and vermiculite in an oven for a while would that further sterilize things and if so could someone give me a time and temp?
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Edited by lonelyjew (10/10/13 05:46 PM)
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TranscendingLife has a good write up.
My One Flush Wonder Mono Tubs Using Coir Tek
Don't bake the verm or coir. You will be pasteurizing it later.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Pestile]
#18960604 - 10/10/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks thats what i was looking for as far as the building the monotub now i just need help on hole placement
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and as for the cooking i meant before as an added precaution.
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2.Measure & Mark where your holes are going on your tub.
a.Remember you want your lower Holes @ substrate depth. So if you have a 1” bit & want the hole bottom to be @ 4” you should mark @ 4.5”. b.Also, I place my holes 5-6” from the sides of the tub. c.The End holes Don’t matter that much, you just want them as High as you possibly can get them.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Pestile]
#18960614 - 10/10/13 05:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Right but i have now idea how high the substrate will be with the tek n a 66qt tub
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lonelyjew said: and as for the cooking i meant before as an added precaution.
The pasteurization will suffice and make the substrate contam resistant.
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lonelyjew said: Right but i have now idea how high the substrate will be with the tek n a 66qt tub
TL's write up is based on a 66 quart tub.  Typical monotub hole size is between 1" and 2" in diameter.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Pestile]
#18960671 - 10/10/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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alright sweet thanks!
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Pestile]
#18960682 - 10/10/13 06:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Pestile]
#18960779 - 10/10/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh also how do you inoculate the WBS jars?
Does it not matter because you shake after inoculation?
this is the jar tek I'm using and its docs WBS tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10628004
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also recommended cc per pint jar of WBS?
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Use only a few drops per jar/hole, or up to a whole CC per jar.
Spores are potent, stretch them out if you can.
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Notahacker420 said: Use only a few drops per jar/hole, or up to a whole CC per jar.
Spores are potent, stretch them out if you can.
so just shoot it into the jar basically? the tek has one injection hole thing so i just inject a cc into the jar? do i put the needle in the actual WBS or just right above the WBS?
thanks
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Right above it is fine....the less the needle touches the better.
And yea, just squirt some right against the glass, so you can watch the growth.
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alright thanks for all the help guys!!!
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Hey would i even be able to do the monotub in time?
I have to go visit some family and will leave November 27th
i can't inoculate my jars till next Friday should i try or should i just wait till i get back?
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Probably not. It takes me a month get my jars to 100%. Then you'd have to spawn and that can take a week or two.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
#18966905 - 10/12/13 02:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do NOT shake a WBS jar after a MS inoculation, until 20-40% colonization!
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OgreLokon said: Do NOT shake a WBS jar after a MS inoculation, until 20-40% colonization!
If you use a good amount of spore solution you can shake it right away.
If you only use a few drops per jar then it might not be such a good idea.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: PussyFart] 1
#18968137 - 10/12/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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alright well im only gonna use aobut 1 cc per pint jar so then i won't shake
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Also how should i sterilize the tub before putting the substrate/spawn in there? or is it even necessary?
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lonelyjew said: Also how should i sterilize the tub before putting the substrate/spawn in there? or is it even necessary?
It is not necessary. You can wipe it out with bleach or lysol if you want but you don't have to
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alright thanks.
http://www.shroomery.org/11402/Fast-easy-fool-proof-inoculation
this is the tek im using for inoculation do I still flame sterilize between injections?
also anyone have any good teks for homemade alcohol flame?
serious though thanks for all the replies this place is awesome!!
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I use that one with BRF jars and mycobags. I flame sterilize the needle before stabbing it into the sponge initially, then just pull the needle up into the sponge before moving to the next jar/hole without removing it from the sponge entirely until I'm finished inoculating. You can sterilize it between jars to be extra safe, but (gasp!) I don't see where it's absolutely necessary with the method I use. It's worked for me. Contams are a bummer, so that's why everyone seems like they freak out and treat it like they're handling vials of ebola or something. There are a million variables and EVERYTHING CAN GO TO SHIT AT ANY STAGE OF THE GAME HERE PEOPLE! It's important to remember that your entire life hinges upon this moment, and one wrong move and there will be nothing left of your entire grow but an enormous evil mushroom cloud (har har) that will one day kill us all.
ANYWAY...I don't know if there's such an animal as too much flame sterilization, but four jars of blue-green mold is a real downer. I have had enough success doing it my way that I'm satisfied with it. As always, YMMV. I apologize in advance if my antics may one day indeed bring upon the Earth an enormous death cloud that murders the planet.
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Don't use that sponge. Flaming the needle red hot sterilizes it while wiping it with alcohol either on TP or in a sponge only sanitizes it. You want a sterile needle, don't wipe it in shit afterwards.
You don't need any special kind of flame, a lighter works great. If you worry about the soot try to put the needle at the bottom of the flame, where the fire is blue close to the metal.
IME this reduces soot if you've got a steady hand.
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yeah it seemed like the sponge was overkill/ineffective
and thanks! as soon as i get my spores i will start a grow log!
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The idea is to be able to do without having to use a flowhood or glovebox. The alcohol-soaked sponge would ideally kill mold spores on your lid and protect your lid from mold spores in the air. Flaming the needle first would kill any nasties in or on the needle itself, and the sponge would protect it from mold in the air.
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BittrBuffalo said: The idea is to be able to do without having to use a flowhood or glovebox.
You are missing the still air box. Either way, it is poor practice to work with sterile media in open air, I don't care what you've seen, done, or read 
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The alcohol-soaked sponge would ideally kill mold spores on your lid and protect your lid from mold spores in the air. Flaming the needle first would kill any nasties in or on the needle itself, and the sponge would protect it from mold in the air.
Alcohol is not effective at neutralizing mold spores.
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so if i inoculate in a room that has been entirely scrubbed down with diluted bleach and has had an air purifier running constantly would i still get contams or is a still air box nessacary?
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its also a pretty small room if that matters.
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A cheap hepa air purifier will not scrub the air like you think it will. Nor will spraying chemicals everywhere or rubbing everything with bleach.
Use the still air box. Get used to it. Research it. Love it.
It is the difference between 50% success and 95% success. I speak from personal experience as well as the assistance I've provided many others. There is no reason not to jump in.
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well i guess i better get on that still air box.
besides i guess i would need it because i want to make prints anyway.
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question about the SAB
Do i spray everything down with bleach water solution then put the jars and needles in there then i respray? what about sterilization of the needle how would i flame sterilize needle in the SAB or is it even necessary?
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your flame should be outside on the counter. if you try to light a flame inside where you've sprayed alcohol you could get a fireball on you ass.
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I was only explaining the logic behind the tek, not encouraging or discouraging its use, or attesting to the truthfulness of the premise. I've used it and it's worked. This is neither here nor there; I'm not necessarily advocating its use.
Does this make me bad at growing mushrooms? So far, no. Does it make me a bad human for admitting the fact that I've used it and it's worked, despite it being Not The Way You're Supposed To Do It? Probably.
That's it.
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I think it's time we give something new a try...There's no "I" in "threesome", FrankHorrigan.
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You can just clean it with soap and water it works cuz the air inside is still. It dosnt need to be sprayed with bleach or Lysol or anything
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Cb411]
#18973224 - 10/13/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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alright so i flame sterilize the needle then put it in the still airbox? do i still wipe down all the jars with alcohol/bleach solution?
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Yeah
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Cb411]
#18974224 - 10/13/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should watch the RR videos and read some teks...
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
#18974488 - 10/13/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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refried said: You should watch the RR videos and read some teks...
I just watched RRs videos
Anyway would i be able to just leave my now inoculated jars in the SAB??
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
#18974497 - 10/13/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll be nice and stop filling your head with crap.
In all seriousness, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms vids are probably, hands down, the most useful tool you will ever use. I think it's $9 for the series; if you plan on really getting into this hobby, BUY THESE. They are totally worth it. There's a lot of good information on the Shroomery, but there's also a considerable amount of bullshit. You've also got everyone's opinion about The Way It's Done, and sometimes these opinions conflict and everyone gets into a dick measuring contest about it.
The best way to cut through all the bullshit: sign out of the forum right now, go here and shell out the $9. Watch the videos and do exactly what he says to do. Don't buy any extra shiny things from the online suppliers, you'll likely get a bunch of useless shit that you'd think would make sense if you've never grown mushrooms before, but is really just useless shit. Don't ever get a goddamn kit--you'll get screwed.
I used a combination of Doc's WBS tek and RR's grain tek from the videos (he uses organic rye berries) at first. WBS is what I use because it's easier to get and much cheaper (for me), and I like it better than rye berries. It's good to know Doc's way, but RR's way is simpler and just as effective with WBS, IME. The lids I use are the holes with the pillow stuffing. Make sure to put some extra water in the PC so it doesn't go dry--the instructions that come with the PC just account for normal canning times, which are usually 15-20 minutes.
Look at Fahtster's tek for monotubs. This motherfucker knows what he's doing. He was inspired by RR's laundry basket tek. Making what I have dubbed the "horseshit lasagna" (layering your colonized grain and bulk substrate) is way easier than mixing it all up.
Watch the videos, read Fahtster's tek, assemble your shit, replay the videos step by step while you're making your stuff, then assemble it the way Fahtster does. Ta da!
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thanks man, i can't wait to start my first grow. soon as those spores arrive...
anyway you don't know how close i was to buying a kit with all the hepa filters and humidifiers and all the fancy gadgets good thing paypal holds your money after you sell something or would have ended p buying a kit!!
Only one question though.
are you supposed to wait one week after full colonization to birth or is that only for cakes?
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oh and i will also be inoculating another quart of WBS incase of contamination. if all goes well and i get no contams would an extra quart in damions5050 coir tek hurt?(technically its two pint jars extra)
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Mix your spawn, don't layer. Layering is outdated.
Your colonization time will be cut in half when you mix it evenly. And the faster you reach full colonization, the less likely you are to see contams before the first flush 
Click on the link in my signature. That is certainly some up-to-date info in my how I get things done list. I specialize in monotubs 
Spawn your grains to bulk at 100% colonization. Consolidating is only for when you are fruiting from the grains or cakes.
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You don't have to consolidate it. You're going to have to shake it and break it up after it's done colonizing to spread it around and mix with the bulk substrate. The idea is that you get the spores to germinate on the grain, and then mix the colonized grain with the poo (or whatever you're using as bulk substrate), so the mycelium will grow throughout the poo and in effect make its own large cake in the tub. Consolidating will make your job harder.
Breaking it up is a pain in the ass. I use RR's method of beating the colonized jar on a bicycle tire. It'll look like all the white will disappear, but it's still there. Then you just shake it out into your substrate. 
You should probably watch the first 8 videos first, even if you're not making your own poo mix. It sounds like a lot, but it'll probably only take you about an hour.
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alright thanks for all the help guys i think im pretty good and can't wait to start my tub as soon as the spores come in
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alright so one last question.... could i pasteurize my substrate half at a tie if that makes sense? only have a small pressure cooker so i would have to pasteurize one half then the other.
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You could buy a large pot to pasteurize more bulk substrate with. Walmart sells a large black canning pot for less than $20 and it will hold something like 7-9 quart jars at one time to pasteurize with.
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yeah that was a stupid question i just got it into my head that i had to use PC to pasteurize my substrate
also in my pc don't have a canning rack can i just put a rag in there just so the cans don't touch the bottom when i PC grains?
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also in my glovebox do i spray everything with lysol including the needles and grain jars?
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scratch that i don't have a big enough pot or enough funds, will i be able to pasturize 9qts of spawn 4.5 quarts at a time?
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Yeah man nothing is stopping you from doing 4 quarts of spawn at a time. In my opinion $20 is worth spending for another large pot because the amount of time you are going to waste doing 4 quarts at a time will cost you more than $20.
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yeah alright as soon as i get the money i will
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the only thermometer i have right now is one similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Taylor-Candy-Jelly-Deep-Fry-Thermometer/16514983
how do i measure/monitor the temperature of the substrate(i will be using the oven bag) will ipening the lid constantly mess with the temperature, also is it just easier to do the bucket tek, whats the risk of having a contam before the first flush?
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One of the videos shows you how to pasteurize.
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I know but i don't have enough jars for pasturization and using francs way with ovenbags
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oh and would a 50/50 spawn to sub ratio work or do i need more substrate?
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alright well i got the spores Tuesday and plan on inoculating tomorrow i will post a grow log!!!
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nice that thermometer is pretty close to mine so thank you for that
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lonelyjew said: oh and would a 50/50 spawn to sub ratio work or do i need more substrate?
A 50/50 (1 to 1) spawn to sub ratio is great. 1 to 2 ratio works good as well
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yo psilly, is ur name supposed to be "stormrider"?
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well looks like im all set, but how long do i wait after i have PCd the grains to inoculate?
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Until they cool off. I like PCing the night before, shutting off the stove and letting it depressurize overnight with the jars still inside. I generally don't have a problem with the grains sticking together.
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BittrBuffalo said: Until they cool off. I like PCing the night before, shutting off the stove and letting it depressurize overnight with the jars still inside.
I think you mean cool to room temp overnight...it only takes about 30 minutes for it to depressurize.
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yo psilly, is ur name supposed to be "stormrider"?
not this question again!  It is a reference to one of my motorcycles. It's call a V-Strom.
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well i want to inoculate today but am also going to pressure cook them today, would i be fine waiting like 7 hours?
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yea...wait until room temp and inocualte.
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alright thanks
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BittrBuffalo said: Until they cool off. I like PCing the night before, shutting off the stove and letting it depressurize overnight with the jars still inside.
I think you mean cool to room temp overnight...it only takes about 30 minutes for it to depressurize.
Sorry..."Let it depressurize and cool overnight."
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OK the WBS feels wet but leaves no wet spot on the toilet paper is it ready to be PCd?
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Yes.
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alright thankyou
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alright everything is inoculated but i forgot to shake the syringes before inoculation is this going to be a problem??
the syringes were packed pretty full and i used 1cc per jar(.5cc for half then gave them another 5cc and the rest got 1-1.5cc)
i shook after inoculation and this was all done in a SAB
should i shake and squirt a little bit more in each jar or would that mess up moisture and introduce contams?
if its fine will it jst take longer to colonize or no effect at all?
i dropped my syringe before the second round to the first 6 if that matters lol
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I would wait a little to see if they colonise. If a week goes by and none took off or just one or two then reinnoculate and make sure to shake.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Cb411]
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alright sounds good
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It's great that folks are helping you, and I can see this thread helpful to other users, but I'm surprised because it really seems like you haven't done adequate research and yet you are getting all this information given to you.
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
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i swear i did hours and hours of research pretty much all my spare time (4-8hrs a day for about a month) its just a lot of the teks miss out on some information because its seems so obvious to experienced growers that they never think of putting it in.
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and plus im just a little over paranoid probably because its my first grow
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refried said: It's great that folks are helping you, and I can see this thread helpful to other users, but I'm surprised because it really seems like you haven't done adequate research and yet you are getting all this information given to you.
C'mon man, don't give him a lot of shit about asking a lot of questions. It's his first grow, he's nervous about fucking it up. You remember your first grow, right? He's looking for reassurance.
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lonelyjew said: i swear i did hours and hours of research pretty much all my spare time (4-8hrs a day for about a month) its just a lot of the teks miss out on some information because its seems so obvious to experienced growers that they never think of putting it in.
Don't worry about it. Really, if you follow RR's method exactly for grain preparation and inoculation, you're not going to fuck it up. Use your tek for substrate pasteurization word for word, and you won't fuck it up. Contams suck, but it's not the end of the world. If you sterilize your grain properly and use proper inoculation technique, your chances are pretty low that you'll get contams in your jars. You PC your grains for 90 minutes and flame your needle until it's red hot, and you inoculate your jars in a SAB and your jars are pretty much golden. We all senselessly bicker about our theories of why shit works and what's sufficient for no real practical reason because it's the internet--and it all really confuses the hell out of anyone who's never done it before. Don't listen to our bullshit about whether or not alcohol kills mold spores and just flame the damn needle because it's guaranteed to work.
If you follow RR's method to the letter, you'll succeed. He's literally done it hundreds of times, maybe more. If you're using a method that RR doesn't have in his videos (coir, etc.), then pick a "proven tek" from the vault of teks on this site and follow it to the letter. The mods are making a serious effort to cull old bullshit into an archive that is labeled, and any "unproven or experimental" techniques are labeled as such. Don't experiment (maybe later on, but not now). Fuck us and our opinions, you want results. Proven teks provide the results, our stupid chirping doesn't. Frankly, if you're looking for an answer for something, do whatever that's within your power to search for it in a place that's not the forum and use the forum as your very last resort, because the forum is mainly a place where we all get together for a good dick measuring contest.
It's best to shake your syringes, but if you forget, the whole thing won't blow up in your face. Just remember for next time. If you drop your syringe, just wipe it off and make sure you're flame sterilizing it properly--which you're doing anyway--and you'll be ok.
You're doing it right! It'll be ok.
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lonelyjew said: i swear i did hours and hours of research pretty much all my spare time (4-8hrs a day for about a month) its just a lot of the teks miss out on some information because its seems so obvious to experienced growers that they never think of putting it in.
Don't worry about it. Really, if you follow RR's method exactly for grain preparation and inoculation, you're not going to fuck it up. Use your tek for substrate pasteurization word for word, and you won't fuck it up. Contams suck, but it's not the end of the world. If you sterilize your grain properly and use proper inoculation technique, your chances are pretty low that you'll get contams in your jars. You PC your grains for 90 minutes and flame your needle until it's red hot, and you inoculate your jars in a SAB and your jars are pretty much golden. We all senselessly bicker about our theories of why shit works and what's sufficient for no real practical reason because it's the internet--and it all really confuses the hell out of anyone who's never done it before. Don't listen to our bullshit about whether or not alcohol kills mold spores and just flame the damn needle because it's guaranteed to work.
If you follow RR's method to the letter, you'll succeed. He's literally done it hundreds of times, maybe more. If you're using a method that RR doesn't have in his videos (coir, etc.), then pick a "proven tek" from the vault of teks on this site and follow it to the letter. The mods are making a serious effort to cull old bullshit into an archive that is labeled, and any "unproven or experimental" techniques are labeled as such. Don't experiment (maybe later on, but not now). Fuck us and our opinions, you want results. Proven teks provide the results, our stupid chirping doesn't. Frankly, if you're looking for an answer for something, do whatever that's within your power to search for it in a place that's not the forum and use the forum as your very last resort, because the forum is mainly a place where we all get together for a good dick measuring contest.
It's best to shake your syringes, but if you forget, the whole thing won't blow up in your face. Just remember for next time. If you drop your syringe, just wipe it off and make sure you're flame sterilizing it properly--which you're doing anyway--and you'll be ok.
You're doing it right! It'll be ok. 
Thanks man, really needed the reassurance. well i did everything by the book with a SAB so i really should have nothing to worry about, the worst part is that you have to wait at least a week before you know you've fucked up!!
oh well but seriously thanks for yours and everyone else's help!
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oh and thanks for understanding my noobish paranoia!!!
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You are correct.
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