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refried

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Re: Monotub help. [Re: Cb411]
#18974224 - 10/13/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You should watch the RR videos and read some teks...
Edited by refried (10/13/13 10:04 PM)
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lonelyjew
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
#18974488 - 10/13/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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refried said: You should watch the RR videos and read some teks...
I just watched RRs videos
Anyway would i be able to just leave my now inoculated jars in the SAB??
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Re: Monotub help. [Re: refried]
#18974497 - 10/13/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'll be nice and stop filling your head with crap.
In all seriousness, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms vids are probably, hands down, the most useful tool you will ever use. I think it's $9 for the series; if you plan on really getting into this hobby, BUY THESE. They are totally worth it. There's a lot of good information on the Shroomery, but there's also a considerable amount of bullshit. You've also got everyone's opinion about The Way It's Done, and sometimes these opinions conflict and everyone gets into a dick measuring contest about it.
The best way to cut through all the bullshit: sign out of the forum right now, go here and shell out the $9. Watch the videos and do exactly what he says to do. Don't buy any extra shiny things from the online suppliers, you'll likely get a bunch of useless shit that you'd think would make sense if you've never grown mushrooms before, but is really just useless shit. Don't ever get a goddamn kit--you'll get screwed.
I used a combination of Doc's WBS tek and RR's grain tek from the videos (he uses organic rye berries) at first. WBS is what I use because it's easier to get and much cheaper (for me), and I like it better than rye berries. It's good to know Doc's way, but RR's way is simpler and just as effective with WBS, IME. The lids I use are the holes with the pillow stuffing. Make sure to put some extra water in the PC so it doesn't go dry--the instructions that come with the PC just account for normal canning times, which are usually 15-20 minutes.
Look at Fahtster's tek for monotubs. This motherfucker knows what he's doing. He was inspired by RR's laundry basket tek. Making what I have dubbed the "horseshit lasagna" (layering your colonized grain and bulk substrate) is way easier than mixing it all up.
Watch the videos, read Fahtster's tek, assemble your shit, replay the videos step by step while you're making your stuff, then assemble it the way Fahtster does. Ta da!
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lonelyjew
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thanks man, i can't wait to start my first grow. soon as those spores arrive...
anyway you don't know how close i was to buying a kit with all the hepa filters and humidifiers and all the fancy gadgets good thing paypal holds your money after you sell something or would have ended p buying a kit!!
Only one question though.
are you supposed to wait one week after full colonization to birth or is that only for cakes?
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lonelyjew
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oh and i will also be inoculating another quart of WBS incase of contamination. if all goes well and i get no contams would an extra quart in damions5050 coir tek hurt?(technically its two pint jars extra)
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FrankHorrigan
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Mix your spawn, don't layer. Layering is outdated.
Your colonization time will be cut in half when you mix it evenly. And the faster you reach full colonization, the less likely you are to see contams before the first flush 
Click on the link in my signature. That is certainly some up-to-date info in my how I get things done list. I specialize in monotubs 
Spawn your grains to bulk at 100% colonization. Consolidating is only for when you are fruiting from the grains or cakes.
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You don't have to consolidate it. You're going to have to shake it and break it up after it's done colonizing to spread it around and mix with the bulk substrate. The idea is that you get the spores to germinate on the grain, and then mix the colonized grain with the poo (or whatever you're using as bulk substrate), so the mycelium will grow throughout the poo and in effect make its own large cake in the tub. Consolidating will make your job harder.
Breaking it up is a pain in the ass. I use RR's method of beating the colonized jar on a bicycle tire. It'll look like all the white will disappear, but it's still there. Then you just shake it out into your substrate. 
You should probably watch the first 8 videos first, even if you're not making your own poo mix. It sounds like a lot, but it'll probably only take you about an hour.
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alright thanks for all the help guys i think im pretty good and can't wait to start my tub as soon as the spores come in
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alright so one last question.... could i pasteurize my substrate half at a tie if that makes sense? only have a small pressure cooker so i would have to pasteurize one half then the other.
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You could buy a large pot to pasteurize more bulk substrate with. Walmart sells a large black canning pot for less than $20 and it will hold something like 7-9 quart jars at one time to pasteurize with.
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yeah that was a stupid question i just got it into my head that i had to use PC to pasteurize my substrate
also in my pc don't have a canning rack can i just put a rag in there just so the cans don't touch the bottom when i PC grains?
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also in my glovebox do i spray everything with lysol including the needles and grain jars?
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scratch that i don't have a big enough pot or enough funds, will i be able to pasturize 9qts of spawn 4.5 quarts at a time?
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Yeah man nothing is stopping you from doing 4 quarts of spawn at a time. In my opinion $20 is worth spending for another large pot because the amount of time you are going to waste doing 4 quarts at a time will cost you more than $20.
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yeah alright as soon as i get the money i will
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the only thermometer i have right now is one similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Taylor-Candy-Jelly-Deep-Fry-Thermometer/16514983
how do i measure/monitor the temperature of the substrate(i will be using the oven bag) will ipening the lid constantly mess with the temperature, also is it just easier to do the bucket tek, whats the risk of having a contam before the first flush?
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One of the videos shows you how to pasteurize.
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I know but i don't have enough jars for pasturization and using francs way with ovenbags
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oh and would a 50/50 spawn to sub ratio work or do i need more substrate?
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alright well i got the spores Tuesday and plan on inoculating tomorrow i will post a grow log!!!
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