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Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus
    #18960473 - 10/10/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sure it's 25x but here it is...
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9281686

TEXAS CITY, TX (KTRK) -- Eighth graders are accused of having liquid meth in school. One of the many concerns is whether more young people are experimenting with this form of the drug.

Parents of Blocker Middle School students in Texas City couldn't believe it when they heard that six students had been caught with methamphetamine.

"That's not good at all," said parent Betty White. "That's not safe for any of the kids."

Grandmother Arlene Brown said, "You hear of addicts, but not a child that's 12 and 13 years old."

According to a spokesperson for Texas City ISD, someone suspected the six students, all girls, had taken some kind of drug. They were found with strange, small pieces of paper, wrapped in tinfoil.

"The Galveston County Sheriff's Department. did a test on small strips of paper, and it tested positive for liquid methamphetamine," said Texas City ISD spokesperson Melissa Tortorici.

Liquid methamphetamine is typically found in bottles, and has been found being smuggled over the border. The paper soaked in meth is new to the district.

"Of course, we're very concerned," said Tortorici. "This new liquid meth is turning out to be a new form of drug, and so it's an opportunity to inform our community."

The school district will be sending letters informing parents about what happened, and is also hoping to use the incident as a teaching moment for students.

"Drug awareness, bring it back into the school like it used to be," Brown suggested. "They're not talking about it like they used to."

The Galveston County Sheriff's Office is still investigating how the girls obtained the drug. The sheriff says this is the first time his office has seen methamphetamine in this form, in this area.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18960487 - 10/10/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Liquid meth :burke:


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18960488 - 10/10/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18960498 - 10/10/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Neat....

Not the kids having it but a unique form of the drug iteself


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Almond Flour]
    #18960552 - 10/10/13 05:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Almond Flour said:
Neat....

Not the kids having it but a unique form of the drug iteself




like I said I'm almost positive it's a 25x compound. I'm familiar with the area and I know it's been flooded with 25x lately...

edit: it could be meth... erowid says it's active 5mg.... but still the Houston area has been flooded with 25x and I would not be surprised to find out it's an nBOME


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18960643 - 10/10/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah probably RC's. Fuckin cops/reporters thinkin' a $20 cheap "drug test" is 100% accurate, especially considering how unreliable they are... you know, a pregnant woman once tested positive for heroin after eating a poppy seed bagel, and MDMA has tested as meth... no surprise they test some random RC's and they are chemically similar to meth.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Synthe]
    #18960649 - 10/10/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, and this tidbit

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he sheriff said it is so potent that the meth can be absorbed through the skin if the stamp is touched.




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I seriously doubt this has any merit.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18960728 - 10/10/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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whoisthtgy said:
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Almond Flour said:
Neat....

Not the kids having it but a unique form of the drug iteself




like I said I'm almost positive it's a 25x compound. I'm familiar with the area and I know it's been flooded with 25x lately...

edit: it could be meth... erowid says it's active 5mg.... but still the Houston area has been flooded with 25x and I would not be surprised to find out it's an nBOME




If it tested positive for amphetamines, it's probably DOx.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Synthe]
    #18960766 - 10/10/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm more willing to bet that it's a dox, cuz they have dimethoxy amphetamine in the name they picked out the two familiar compounds and were like omg liquid meths!! My question is what kind of scumbag would sell middle school girls DOx chem? That's fucking demented.

It's funny they call them addicts, but we are gonna have a real fucked generation if we got kids eatin doses of RC's on regular basis. Fuck this nation got enough problems.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Deemstar]
    #18960872 - 10/10/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe they weren't sold to them. Maybe one of the girls lives with an older sibling who didn't have them hidden well enough. :shrug:


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Eminence]
    #18960885 - 10/10/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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frylock91 said:
Maybe they weren't sold to them. Maybe one of the girls lives with an older sibling who didn't have them hidden well enough. :shrug:



Or they all pitched in $5 and ordered it online themselves. But yeah, it could've been from a family member. No need to panic as if every kid in the school is using it regularly just because a small group of kids used it once together.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18961152 - 10/10/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe something of these synthetics nature?

4_fluoroamphetamine
4_fluoromethcathinone

4_methylaminorex

4_methylethcathinone

4_methylmethcathinone

Not too entirely sure if they can be in liquid form.

Definitely looks like an RC though


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18961237 - 10/10/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The only time I've heard of liquid meth is from a friend's dad who was a pilot during 'Nam who said they used to get a shot of methedrine in the arm to stay alert during missions. Interesting  :strokebeard:


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #18961674 - 10/10/13 09:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

they were said to be "acting lethargic" and on meth.............:learyharvard:


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Eminence]
    #18961684 - 10/10/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Maybe they weren't sold to them. Maybe one of the girls lives with an older sibling who didn't have them hidden well enough. :shrug:




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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18962428 - 10/11/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    Grandmother Arlene Brown said, "You hear of addicts, but not a child that's 12 and 13 years old."




An addic is anyone above the age of 13 according to this lady it seems. It also seems as if people forget about those kids that have been given caffeine since th ages of 4-11 to calm em down untill they move to amphetamines. 
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      "Drug awareness, bring it back into the school like it used to be," Brown suggested. "They're not talking about it like they used to."




They better not or we'd(kids included with access to the internet) laugh in their face with a joint in hand.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18962541 - 10/11/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

There was a stimulant related to methylphenidate that was sold on blotter for a very brief time in certain RC circles. It had an unusually long duration, so I avoided it. I doubt that this is it, but part of me thinks, maybe.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: nooneman]
    #18962556 - 10/11/13 03:55 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It also could actually be Meth.

They have heroin sold as liquid sometimes too.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Synthe]
    #18962641 - 10/11/13 05:17 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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whoisthtgy said:
Quote:

Almond Flour said:
Neat....

Not the kids having it but a unique form of the drug iteself




like I said I'm almost positive it's a 25x compound. I'm familiar with the area and I know it's been flooded with 25x lately...

edit: it could be meth... erowid says it's active 5mg.... but still the Houston area has been flooded with 25x and I would not be surprised to find out it's an nBOME



Yeah, unfortunately it seems like RC's have been abundant around the Houston area for awhile, and a lot of it is being sold as "acid". Either the person selling it is too stupid to know the difference, or they're just a dick trying to make money. Sad...


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: FunkySkunk]
    #18963615 - 10/11/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...
I read this on wikipedia a while ago..ill try n find a link and come back n post it..
I always thought meth was strictly synthetic but apparently its not....


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: pfshroomer]
    #18963634 - 10/11/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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pfshroomer said:
Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...
I read this on wikipedia a while ago..ill try n find a link and come back n post it..
I always thought meth was strictly synthetic but apparently its not....



I've read that test has not been reduplicated and probably the results were tainted with impurities from previous tests.

Ill look for source in a moment


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18963649 - 10/11/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Lol you guys, this is way more than likely, not meth on blotters. Just look up DOx. The stuff tests positive for amphetamine.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Eminence]
    #18963685 - 10/11/13 12:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not saying its not possible but its also not entirely impossible that it is Meth.

Untill an lab analyses it we have no clue.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18963694 - 10/11/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's more than likely NBOMe or DOx, but I'm leaning more towards an NBOMe. Bread will test positive for cocaine in those field tests so they're not reliable at all. There was a story here years ago about a guy who was arrested for giving police "marijuana and LSD" brownies as part of community service, when in reality there was no marijuana or LSD in them at all.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18963700 - 10/11/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

But ya after looking at the pictures its most likely DOx


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18963795 - 10/11/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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dark3st said:
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pfshroomer said:
Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...
I read this on wikipedia a while ago..ill try n find a link and come back n post it..
I always thought meth was strictly synthetic but apparently its not....



I've read that test has not been reduplicated and probably the results were tainted with impurities from previous tests.

Ill look for source in a moment




http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm

It's BS. Someone published a spoofed article or contaminated the sample. More analysis should bee done.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18964249 - 10/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It could for sure be liquid meth. Its not like some magical thing, actually all meth (at least the most common synthesis) is liquid, but you can't transport or smoke a liquid as easily so its crystallized.

There was an article on here a while back about a group of mexicans that sold meth in liquid form by hiding it as an extra gas tank in a truck and just selling the truck. An informant ratted on them, otherwise the plan was genius. It was like millions of dollars worth


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: bloodsheen]
    #18964260 - 10/11/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

That being said Ive never heard of it on blotters, and the odds of some kids having a relatively rare form of meth is pretty much non existent. I'm just saying its possible

Fucking every article about drugs is random RCs now, but nobody knows what an NBOMe is so they just say "Its a form of LSD" or some equally ridiculous thing


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18964305 - 10/11/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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"That's not good at all," said parent Betty White. "That's not safe for any of the kids."

Grandmother Arlene Brown said, "You hear of addicts, but not a child that's 12 and 13 years old."




Yeah there are certainly no kids that age or many years younger being given amphetamines by doctors, I mean, can you imagine??


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: egodeathflux]
    #18964341 - 10/11/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, if Betty White said it, its gotta be true :lolsy:


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: bloodsheen]
    #18964428 - 10/11/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude, if Betty White said it, its gotta be true :lolsy:



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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Synthe]
    #18964441 - 10/11/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

DOB is an amphetimene and would come up positive because of its precursors... lol its not meth but it might as well be. DOC may also be. ill check


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: bloodsheen]
    #18964673 - 10/11/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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It could for sure be liquid meth. Its not like some magical thing, actually all meth (at least the most common synthesis) is liquid, but you can't transport or smoke a liquid as easily so its crystallized.

There was an article on here a while back about a group of mexicans that sold meth in liquid form by hiding it as an extra gas tank in a truck and just selling the truck. An informant ratted on them, otherwise the plan was genius. It was like millions of dollars worth




You're talking about freebase meth in the beginning, an oil. Not somethin that would be put on blotters. Idk about that article on the mexicans, so idk if that was freebase or just meth hcl in water. But either one on blotters is pretty impractical. Idk how many meth users would want to buy it on blotter in the first place. Seems like a stupid idea that would just cost you time and money.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #18964788 - 10/11/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...
I read this on wikipedia a while ago..ill try n find a link and come back n post it..
I always thought meth was strictly synthetic but apparently its not....



I've read that test has not been reduplicated and probably the results were tainted with impurities from previous tests.

Ill look for source in a moment




http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/acacia.htm

It's BS. Someone published a spoofed article or contaminated the sample. More analysis should bee done.



I agree..more tests should be done..but man what a yree to have..its reported to have meth,dmt,mescaline,and nicotine in it.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: pfshroomer]
    #18964794 - 10/11/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: stanski]
    #18964838 - 10/11/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

"If it was my child I'd be extremely upset," Sheriff Trochesset said.

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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: whoisthtgy]
    #18965180 - 10/11/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Its not meth, who the fuck would go to an extreme like that to sell such a small amount of crank?  Its possible, but generally if it looks like a duck...  Its probably some type of analogue, who the fuck knows which one though.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: fapjack]
    #18965224 - 10/11/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If it is methamphetamine it would have to either be freebase or just meth dissolved in a solvent correct? I don't mess with the stuff personally but I know this is nothing new. I doubt it would be freebase thougb becauee who the hell would want that shit when you have tons of mexican crystal flooding in from mexico anyway. "News" lol


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: niteman]
    #18967113 - 10/12/13 04:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:pipesmoke:let me stress again that this is either DOB or DOC.

one of the most common mistaken chemicals for lsd and sold as it.

it tests positive for amphetamines because its amphetamine based lol.

it has some of the same precursors as meth, and as you all know thats all test kits actually test for not the end result chemical =).


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: nooneman]
    #18967882 - 10/12/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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There was a stimulant related to methylphenidate that was sold on blotter for a very brief time in certain RC circles. It had an unusually long duration, so I avoided it. I doubt that this is it, but part of me thinks, maybe.




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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dokunai]
    #18968491 - 10/12/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

but I wonder if it's possible NBOMes are chemically close enough & can test positive for amphetamine with a field test. 25i to me felt a lot like an amphetamine, and they're more common than DOx. Not saying you're wrong or anything. It's just something a part of me wonders.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: D.M.T]
    #18968548 - 10/12/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:whowouldsaysuchathing:

Wait, are you saying because it feels like an amphetamine, it might test positive for amphetamine?

I'm sorry to say that's not how it works.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18968581 - 10/12/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No... I'm saying it may be structurally similar enough to test positive for an amphetamine, but this is merely speculation. It probably is DOB/DOC but they aren't as common as NBOMe, particularly the former, hence why the question is raised.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: D.M.T]
    #18968594 - 10/12/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: fapjack]
    #18968619 - 10/12/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

According to Erowid's NBOMe page:

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The NBOMe series of chemicals are primarily N-o-methoxybenzyl analogs of the 2C-X family of phenethylamines, and are 5-HT2A (serotonin 2A) receptor agonists. A few are amphetamine analogs. With few exceptions (e.g. mescaline-NBOMe), compounds in this group are active at verly low sub-milligram doses. These chemicals have nearly no history of human use prior to 2010 when they first became available online.




I suspect 25B-NBOMe is one such amphetamine analog by its structure. Never experienced it either so we're not going by feeling here. :cool:



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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: D.M.T]
    #18968732 - 10/12/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Why are you so dead set its an nbome? I'm damn sure if this was another nbome case they would of just called it acid. I didn't know a few nbomes were amphetamine analogues, they must be pretty indirect. I don't understand what would make 25b an amphetamine analogue, the element bromine is the only difference from the others.

I know the 2c class are anologues of mescaline, nbomes are derivatives of phenylathalime amines aka 2c,x's they all contain the bonds dimethoxy and ethanamine.

If the police and media are stupid enough to call anything containing a dimethoxy bond meth, we may as well start calling starter fluid meth.

DOx is the more rational bet, since they direct amphetamine anologues, Dimethoxy (DO), substituent (x), amphetamine.

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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: D.M.T]
    #18969041 - 10/12/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No... I'm saying it may be structurally similar enough to test positive for an amphetamine, but this is merely speculation. It probably is DOB/DOC but they aren't as common as NBOMe, particularly the former, hence why the question is raised.





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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: MR.Merlin]
    #18969138 - 10/12/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Phenethylamines cause false positive for amphetamine all the time. Without going through a long chemistry explanation I don't feel like doing since I haven't smoked any marijuana today, I'll just show you why:


Phenethylamine ^



Amphetamine ^

Then given that NBOMes are more common than DOx probably by 10x, it only makes sense this is a possibility. I'm not saying it is a fact - just a possibility. Do not confuse it as such.


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    #18969251 - 10/12/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already


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    #18969275 - 10/12/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No they wouldn't.  You would need to cut it ship it extract it and wind up with a less then pure as Normal, cutting down potential profit.  Hypothetically


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    #18969283 - 10/12/13 05:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already




Acacia berlandieri

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    #18969295 - 10/12/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already




Acacia berlandieri

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri




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      There are no reports in the literature of these findings having been repeated, however, leading to the suggestion that they resulted from cross-contamination or were possibly artifacts of the analytical technique. [8]




Also much more articles saying the same.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18969313 - 10/12/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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No they wouldn't.  You would need to cut it ship it extract it and wind up with a less then pure as Normal, cutting down potential profit.  Hypothetically




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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18969407 - 10/12/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already




Acacia berlandieri

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri




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      There are no reports in the literature of these findings having been repeated, however, leading to the suggestion that they resulted from cross-contamination or were possibly artifacts of the analytical technique. [8]




Also much more articles saying the same.




Yeah, I know all that.  I was just specifying the species he was talking about so people can check it out for themselves.  These things tend to not be particularly well studied, and acacia spp. are certainly well known for DMT content.  Here's a question for you: if the findings aren't repeated, is it because there was only one assay or because further assays provided negative results?  I would think the latter would occlude any further mention of these findings, as negative peer reviews tend to take precedence over any initial results.  Most likely what happened here was others in the field said "this is the only experiment in this area, and we have reason not to believe it because other species in this genus do not produce these substances."  That is substantially different, and certainly less damning, than others repeating the experiment and not getting the same results.  In fact, the idea would be totally discredited if that were the case.  No offense intended, but I also don't think I deserved a :facepalm:.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dokunai]
    #18969539 - 10/12/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well you posted without saying anything.  So I wrongly assumed.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dokunai]
    #18970593 - 10/12/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

[qpuote]dokunai said:
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dokunai said:
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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already




Acacia berlandieri

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri




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      There are no reports in the literature of these findings having been repeated, however, leading to the suggestion that they resulted from cross-contamination or were possibly artifacts of the analytical technique. [8]




Also much more articles saying the same.




Yeah, I know all that.  I was just specifying the species he was talking about so people can check it out for themselves.  These things tend to not be particularly well studied, and acacia spp. are certainly well known for DMT content.  Here's a question for you: if the findings aren't repeated, is it because there was only one assay or because further assays provided negative results?  I would think the latter would occlude any further mention of these findings, as negative peer reviews tend to take precedence over any initial results.  Most likely what happened here was others in the field said "this is the only experiment in this area, and we have reason not to believe it because other species in this genus do not produce these substances."  That is substantially different, and certainly less damning, than others repeating the experiment and not getting the same results.  In fact, the idea would be totally discredited if that were the case.  No offense intended, but I also don't think I deserved a :facepalm:.



It wasn't just methamphetamine, it was a bunch of other shit that was thought to be be man made drugs.  The fact no one else has been able to reproduce it leads most to believe it was BS.
"A. berlandieri contains a number of diverse alkaloids, the most plentiful of which are N-methylphenethylamine, tyramine, and phenethylamine.[3] The total alkaloid content in dried leaves has been reported to be in the range 0.28-0.66%.[6] In a recent study, researchers identified thirty-one alkaloids in samples of plant foliage, including trace amounts of four amphetamines previously known only from laboratory synthesis: amphetamine, methamphetamine, para-hydroxyamphetamine and para-methoxyamphetamine. Other trace alkaloids include nicotine, and mescaline (found in many cacti but infrequently in other plants).[3] The same group of researchers later reported finding most of the same alkaloids in A. rigidula, a related species also native to the Southwestern U.S.[7] There are no reports in the literature of these findings having been repeated, however, leading to the suggestion that they resulted from cross-contamination or were possibly artifacts of the analytical technique.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_berlandieri

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    #18970718 - 10/13/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Did you guys know that there is a tree in south Texas that contains methamphetamine...




if there was such a tree and it was located in South Texas, the Mexicans would have cut all them down already




Lol nah. They already have super labs down there and getting barrels of precursor. They already have all they need, that would just be too much extra work probably.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: Eminence]
    #18971970 - 10/13/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree they have the capability to produce tons of high purity crystal. There would be no need to cut down trees. I think it is disgusting what greedy people are doing to the sasafras trees in southeast asia just to make money. I stopped taking X when I found out about it.


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    #18972271 - 10/13/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Do you still eat meat from the store?


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    #18987875 - 10/16/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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WTF? I don't see how it is relevant but I'm vegan. That means I don't consume or use animal products (including meat) from any source.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: niteman]
    #18987889 - 10/16/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Actually now your telling me your a vegan, so I understand your one of those..people so ya man all I can do is laugh now.


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    #18987903 - 10/16/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Whatever man. Feel free to think up something more intelligent to say and maybe I will dignify it with argument. Until then...


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    #18987914 - 10/16/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

No need to, your a vegan, and your pompous and self righteous. All vegans are like that, this is when this discussion ends and you go on ignore.


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Re: Texas City 8th graders found with new kind of meth on school campus [Re: dark3st]
    #18987935 - 10/16/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Jesus man are you drunk or something? I have no idea what you are saying. I don't know why you generalize so broadly but I assume you were offended by my previous post regarding sasafras trees. The truth is the way I see it anyone who wishes to exploit something for profit with no regard to the effects on the earth doesn't deserve to live here. Sorry if you disagree but I don't see a reason to further muck up this thread with bickering so ill let it go.


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