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underfliptown
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what makes dreams any less real?
#18960133 - 10/10/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've been having intense fucking dreams lately. And I am wondering, if you dream and you actually see something that presumably you have never seen before what makes it less real than seeing something new in your waking life? Today i had a dream of wilderness and cliffs, and it was so fucking real i couldn't explain. Train hopping, cliff jumping, rock climbing, and all that jazz. I saw some of the most beautiful scenery of my life when asleep. Dreams are way better than reality.
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960163 - 10/10/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've always tried to tell people that dreams are just as real as reality when we are awake. Just because it doesn't follow the rules of our normal reality doesn't make it any less real.
I had a fucking awesome dream during my nap earlier today.
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Harrishroom
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960174 - 10/10/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I feel the same way, it's funny how we dismiss them as nonsense. We define reality as something you personally are experiencing (I think?), we experience dreams so why do we write them off as unimportant? I used to be quite interested in lucid dreaming, I would like to get into it again, just gotta work on my self discipline. Just like as stated above, just because its "different" doesn't necessarily make it less significant. Its pretty sad that the vast majority of people today ignore this huge part of our lives; we dream every night and we choose to ignore it.
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chutney
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: Harrishroom]
#18960212 - 10/10/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Is lucid dreaming legit?
I've always thought it was new age nonsense.
If I had the ability to lucid dream, and could do whatever I could possibly imagine within the dream, I think that would be all the entertainment and enjoyment I would ever need in life. I mean, if I could dream up any scenario I want and put myself in the midst of it and have it be indistinguishable from this reality (and also be able to recall the dream in its entirety) I would be reluctant to spend more than a few hours in ordinary (or so called "ordinary") waking reality... I'd be constantly poppin ambiens and just wake up to shit, eat and fuck, then go back to sleep and live my fantasy life in dreams haha.
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newageshaman
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: chutney]
#18960256 - 10/10/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i've been thinking similar thoughts, i've had some amazing dreams that are so indistinguishable from reality that it ends up a bit of a shock upon awakening. and yeah man i believe lucid dreaming is a real phenomenon it's just hard to learn but once you do it's amazing. been doing alot of dream working for the last 3 or more months and so far had only 2 proper lucid dreams though i can recall my dreams quite vividly now
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underfliptown
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: chutney]
#18960287 - 10/10/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to think it was nonsense too, but then this happened and it changed my view on it. I find that writing them down right when you wake up helps a lot.
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newageshaman
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960302 - 10/10/13 04:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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what sort of methods do you use to notice your dreaming? one that usually works for me is trying to turn something on or trying to lock a door. it seams to be impossible to turn lights on or lock a door when your dreaming. atleast in my experience
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Agentchewy
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: newageshaman]
#18960315 - 10/10/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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After my encounters with DMT I have a vivid memorable dream every night, the first 2 weeks after had me questioning whether my awake state was a dream or not.
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underfliptown
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: newageshaman]
#18960318 - 10/10/13 04:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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newageshaman said: what sort of methods do you use to notice your dreaming? one that usually works for me is trying to turn something on or trying to lock a door. it seams to be impossible to turn lights on or lock a door when your dreaming. atleast in my experience
To be honest its never happened before today. It was a total accident. But now that I've done it once i think i am going to get better at it. I think writing your dreams down as soon as you wake up helps a lot.
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960323 - 10/10/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My dreams always have insane weird twists.. like I'm about to get blown then like a monkey comes and attacks me and I wake up...
crazy dreams are related to GABA action.
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: Gorlax]
#18960347 - 10/10/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucid dreaming/astral projecting is 'legit'
I believe in dream time we are all being tested
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underfliptown
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: Agentchewy]
#18960355 - 10/10/13 04:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Agentchewy said: After my encounters with DMT I have a vivid memorable dream every night, the first 2 weeks after had me questioning whether my awake state was a dream or not.
Thats cool man. I never had the same experiences with dmt, but i guess thats possible. I smoked a lot of dmt though lol.
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Harrishroom
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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960455 - 10/10/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lucid dreaming is a very real phenomena, I was never very good at it, just a few random realizations here and there. Once you get the hang of realizing you're dreaming, its a very interesting experience. Its hard to manipulate the environment sometimes when you're not used to lucid dreaming, but if you're confident, you hold all the power in the dream world, its just as cool as it sounds.
I don't have lucids often, but when I do its usually because I notice something very out of the ordinary, prompting me to plug my nose, if I can still breathe through my nose, it means I'm dreaming. then I'm usually in a rush to do as much cool stuff as possible before I wake up. Its also a VERY strange feeling when you are interacting with such a vivid environment, knowing that its this entire virtual reality within you're head. It's where my interest in psychedelics stemmed from!
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: Harrishroom]
#18960656 - 10/10/13 05:58 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can manipulate things in your dreams but be careful with your thoughts/intent in the higher realms
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underfliptown
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MystiqueMushroom said: You can manipulate things in your dreams but be careful with your thoughts/intent in the higher realms
Why be careful? What's the worst that can happen?
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: underfliptown]
#18960786 - 10/10/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not coming back to this vessel we call a body
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lessismore
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or possession
A bad sleep paralysis can scar you for life
I remember my first sleep paralysis 15 years ago vividly, like it was yesterday worse than my worst bad acid trip
felt like it changed something in me, but not sure...
I had lost the love for myself for many years since it, but could be other causes too took me 15 years to find the love for myself and everything I see again, with the help of psychedelics (LSD)
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: lessismore]
#18960880 - 10/10/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mio said: or possession
A bad sleep paralysis can scar you for life
I remember my first sleep paralysis 15 years ago vividly, like it was yesterday worse than my worst bad acid trip
felt like it changed something in me, but not sure...
I had lost the love for myself for many years since it, but could be other causes too took me 15 years to find the love for myself and everything I see again
Glad your back
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lessismore
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Back, and with no fear left :-)
only joy each day
if I could give LSD to everyone I would :-)
it was weird seeing my soul/body for the first time in 15 years again......
dunno how to describe it, reuniting with soul was pure bliss and I instantly remembered, but my body was almost dead lol, that's how careless I had gotten when I found the love again had the health of a 70 year old... kidneystones,gaut,high bp,liver problems,eye problems,feet pain could hardly walk,joint problems,swelling all over my body,itching,couldn't pee,had gained 77lbs weight, could only lay down for xx months due to pain,... was only 25
lost all the weight again and got healthier
lack of love for self, that is the worlds problem
Edited by lessismore (10/10/13 07:12 PM)
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: what makes dreams any less real? [Re: lessismore]
#18960999 - 10/10/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mio said: Back, and with no fear left :-)
only joy each day
if I could give LSD to everyone I would :-)
it was weird seeing my soul/body for the first time in 15 years again......
dunno how to describe it, but it was almost dead lol, that's how careless I had gotten when I found the love again had the health of a 70 year old... kidneystones,gaut,high bp,liver problems,eye problems,feet pain could hardly walk,joint problems,swelling all over my body,had gained 77lbs weight,... was only 25
lost all the weight again and got healthier
lack of love for self, that is the worlds problems
That's great man. Yes no fear, can't have fear if your gonna journey deep. I think I've been being tested in my dreams on this recently, like I'll become lucid in a dream as the plane I'm on is crashing to imminent death and just have to deal with those 10 seconds before death. Or just a few days ago having a gun pointed at my head and testing my reaction.
Death, the ultimate transition.(for us earthlings )
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