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filter disc material question
    #18959905 - 10/10/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hey, anyone know where to buy the material to make your own filter disc's? i can tell the cut out of something but cant figure out what the material is or where its sold...  thanks


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bakenast]
    #18959910 - 10/10/13 03:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Polyfill or Tyvek or even Ez Felt. Try a store :shrug: Tyvek is free at a post office if you take some tyvek mailers.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18959922 - 10/10/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think the op is talking about sfd's. Many of our sponsors carry synthetic filter disks I believe.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: maddchef]
    #18959937 - 10/10/13 03:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ive never used sfd's, but Ive reused the same homemade EZ Felt discs 6 times now with no contams. You can find it at just about any arts and crafts store, or order it from hobbylobby.com...I picked up more than I'll ever need for around $5 shipped.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18959949 - 10/10/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

i might try ez felt again, i tried it a couple years ago, but had horrble contams, but i guess it could been quality of it... I figured by now there would be someone/place selling the actual material of the filter disc's so you could just cut your own and save money..  thanks


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18959956 - 10/10/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, what Chaotic said.
Go to any hobby store (Hobby Lobby is the one I use)
Go towards their fabric section and you'll see a ton of polyfil.
Right were that polyfil is, you'll see the polyfil that is in sheets or a roll of it in a bag. You'll want it dense and semi thick, but it's 100% synthetic. Just cut out quarter or so pieces from it and bingo bango, your own SFD for cheap. You'll have a TON of leftover for future use if needed.

(edit to add) You shouldn't get contams if you RTV Red silicone seal it to the lids and then pressure cook them.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18959960 - 10/10/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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or order it from hobbylobby.com...



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Their racism towards Jews. No that I like Jews but still it's the principle. Their stance on birth-control, and resultingly evading insurance/healthcare laws that protect their employees.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18959970 - 10/10/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ive never used sfd's, but Ive reused the same homemade EZ Felt discs 6 times now with no contams. You can find it at just about any arts and crafts store, or order it from hobbylobby.com...I picked up more than I'll ever need for around $5 shipped.




hey i went there and used there search but ez felt doest come up can you send me a link please!  thanks


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18959977 - 10/10/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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or order it from hobbylobby.com...



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Hobby Lobby states that it was built on "strong values, and honoring the Lord in a manner consistent with Biblical principles."




Their racism towards Jews. No that I like Jews but still it's the principle. Their stance on birth-control, and resultingly evading insurance/healthcare laws that protect their employees.


Whatever. No sponsors sell EZ Felt, and hobby lobby is the cheapest place I could find it. I couldn't care less about their religious beliefs or Jews being offended by them.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bakenast]
    #18959988 - 10/10/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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hey i went there and used there search but ez felt doest come up can you send me a link please!  thanks





http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/12-x-18-white-easy-felt-335919/


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18959997 - 10/10/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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chaotic646 said:
or order it from hobbylobby.com...



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Hobby Lobby states that it was built on "strong values, and honoring the Lord in a manner consistent with Biblical principles."




Their racism towards Jews. No that I like Jews but still it's the principle. Their stance on birth-control, and resultingly evading insurance/healthcare laws that protect their employees.


Whatever. No sponsors sell EZ Felt, and hobby lobby is the cheapest place I could find it. I couldn't care less about their religious beliefs or Jews being offended by them.




Ha, I was being kind of sarcastic. I shop at wallmart from time to time FFS. If you have what I need for the right price you could kill puppies in your spare time for all I care.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18960013 - 10/10/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ha, I was being kind of sarcastic. I shop at wallmart from time to time FFS. If you have what I need for the right price you could kill puppies in your spare time for all I care.


Right on, guess my sarcasm meter is malfunctioning today :smirk:


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18960047 - 10/10/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

sfd's are water proof no foil needed during PC times plus 1 makes 10 easy


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: j3rk0ff]
    #18960159 - 10/10/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just got ptfe media filters as a sfd.
I've asked before what makes an sfd but never got a true answer.

It is NOT filter paper!


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18960225 - 10/10/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I've asked before what makes an sfd but never got a true answer.






me to i asked like a year ago, didnt get a answer figured id try again this year to see if anyone new yet lol


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18960379 - 10/10/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I just got ptfe media filters as a sfd.
I've asked before what makes an sfd but never got a true answer.

It is NOT filter paper!




My understanding is its the same thing as ez-felt (pressed polyfil material) its just rated: filtration rate of 99.97% and will filter down to .3 microns.

Ez-felt and other materials have no micron rating.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17541647#17541647
thats a post i made in january about felt filters. i dont remember if i mention it in the post but i get that shit in the walmart arts n craft section right down the isle from my little zip-lock baggies that are penny a piece (100 for a dollar).


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: MoGrow]
    #18960672 - 10/10/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

If you go EZ felt make sure it's the stiffened variety not the floppy kind.
I refuse to shop at Hobby Lobby for the reason someone else posted earlier but Michael's and Wal-Mart also carry it.  Should be about $.99 for an 8.5x11 sheet and that'll make a ton of you cut them the size of a quarter.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18961030 - 10/10/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

ya when i bought the felt before it was floppy kinda like cloth, prolly why every jar i had contammed.. really pissed me off so i ate the rest of the felt i didnt need just cause i was mad..


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    #18962722 - 10/11/13 06:28 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: filter disc material question [Re: j3rk0ff]
    #18964871 - 10/11/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Cellulose is a mold attractor.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18965222 - 10/11/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Cellulose is a mold attractor.




And the S in SFD stands for synthetic. There's nothing synthetic about cellulose it's actually quite organic hence it attracting mold since probably half of the kingdom of fungi specializes in metabolizing the stuff.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18965283 - 10/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man, I was a little stoned and couldn't finish mutt argument haha

Totally appreciated!


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18965316 - 10/11/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

hah no problem it's just Jerkoff has been posting all sorts of half-assed one line responses lately. Not that I'm the most useful member of this society. I'm a dick and a UTFSE person sometimes but hey I started learning how to UTFSE from having those UTFSE people reply to my noob bullshit. Look at the rating frank left me haha.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18967386 - 10/12/13 07:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah haha
I've tried utfse and didn't find a good answer to the question what made up a sfd. I'll try to find it again.

Ended up with 200x ptfe .22 micron hydrophobic media filters.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18967484 - 10/12/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I bought those filters as well. I like them because they are hydrophobic so water does not get into the jars.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: blojo02184]
    #18967589 - 10/12/13 09:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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So i think i should be pumped

So who knows what makes synthetic Filter Disks

hopwefully it helps someone




thanks thats a good link!!


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: eLeSDenes]
    #18967621 - 10/12/13 09:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I bought those filters as well. I like them because they are hydrophobic so water does not get into the jars.




The filters have rabies?  How does being afraid of water repel water?

EZ felt is not the same as the material synthetic filter disks are made of.  The early ones were PTFE, but the ones aloha medicinals sell retain their micron rating after repeated autoclave cycles.
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Re: filter disc material question [Re: bodhisatta]
    #18967638 - 10/12/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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And the S in SFD stands for synthetic. There's nothing synthetic about cellulose it's actually quite organic hence it attracting mold since probably half of the kingdom of fungi specializes in metabolizing the stuff.




When I was a kid(1950s) in the age before saran wrap, we had cellophane to wrap stuff up in. I've been trying to convince manufacturers to develop filter patch bags out of the stuff.  The idea is if they make it thick enough to withstand autoclaving, it would keep the contents sterile long enough to colonize, at which point the mycelium would also colonize the bag.

The biggest guilty conscience I get from mushroom farming is all the plastic waste I send to the landfill every month.  We need to find a better way.
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    #18968047 - 10/12/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: filter disc material question [Re: MacMerdin]
    #18969531 - 10/12/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

So Roger rabbit, I must ask... What material makes up a synthetic filter disc? As sold by our wonderful vendors here?
Ptfe? Polypropylene? Pvc? Cellulose?

You said ptfe was the earlier models... What's the standard today?


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    #18969681 - 10/12/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I bought those filters as well. I like them because they are hydrophobic so water does not get into the jars.



The filters have rabies?  How does being afraid of water repel water?
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    #19056219 - 10/30/13 04:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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    #19120946 - 11/11/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all,

Just found this and wonder how it would perform on grain jars? Maybe double layer. It's polypropylene,  glazed. I don't know the pore size though.



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    #19127697 - 11/12/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i ended up using the ezfelt listed above from hobby lobby and its performed great,, but only tested on about 40 quart jars


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    #19127889 - 11/12/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Please don't get angry at me if I'm right or wrong but I think people high up that know what they are made of would loose money if we knew that we could probably go somewhere like hobby lobby to get the material to cut our own sfd's I might be wrong but I do know that they have to be used in other instances and easier to buy face to face in some store just a different name.


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Re: filter disc material question [Re: Gymspawn]
    #19127935 - 11/12/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Please support hobby lobby, they are a great company. I use EZfelt and i like it. Cutting out quarter size circles is hard on the hands tho!


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    #19130344 - 11/13/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I still like knowing in the back of my head, that my "filter" was designed and made to a certain specification for the purposes of filtering...

Hobby shops... do I need to explain?


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    #19130666 - 11/13/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Please support hobby lobby, they are a great company. I use EZfelt and i like it. Cutting out quarter size circles is hard on the hands tho!




Hobby Lobby? The people who use their business influence to take away human rights because of their cherry picked ideology?

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