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Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis)
    #18959681 - 10/10/13 02:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So I've spent the last month or so trying to get informed.

I've learned what and how psilocybin does chemically in the brain, I've taken some trips psilos in nearby nature (without success) and I've done a lot of reading both on here and on the local website. Getting to know the effect of shrooms and learning to respect the power of the mushroom.

But where it get's tricky for me is dosage.

Now the calculator is a fine general tool, but having read up on the contents of Cubensis, it  sure does seem it can swing both ways in potency.
Now add to that... reading first timers, one of the obvious questions is "how much?"

Answers are mixed.... some say this, some say that. Then others again say they got something different from teks.

With all due respect, especially since I'm a first timer, I know tolerance plays a big deal in how any shroom intake outputs a result.
So how much of the dosage advice is really accurate in accordance to what a first timer needs to get to level X?

Sometimes when I read the advice, I get the feeling that the guy answering is more or less answering in relation to his or her current tolerance rather than thinking back to their first time? Am I right about this?

Cause honestly I have a little trouble as to seeing how both 1.5g and around 3g can be suggested to be a decent first timer intake.

I know you can't give a specific person a precise answer, but I'm asking since I know where I want to fly to, but I need a human beings advice to complement that of the calculator.

I want to touch level 4 without going too deep in. It's not that I'm affraid, but since I haven't tried shrooms before, I have to be honest and realise that I really have no idea what a level 4 feels like once I'm in it.

Both my set and setting is a-ok, and my reasons to do this is not to party out (I'm 34 years old with a family). It's going to be a trip into myself and exploring the remnants of the past as well as mending up a few things here and there... and if the shroom goddess allows it, I wouldn't mind releasing myself to a small trip out there to really learn something.
In short... I know to let go, and I'm willing not to struggle (said the first timer... :wink: )

So ok... with my limited knowledge. How does the following sound:

3g dried Cubensis, consumed as the NRG version with Monster Khaos (I LOVE those Monster drinks...) and a bit of orange juice.

Would that take me where I want to go?

(oh by the way... since I couldn't find a local grower, I ordered some Cubes from Shayanashop. But when I asked him about the juice version he said that it would ruin the effect?? Is the orange juice / Monster version bunk or does it in fact work?)

Thanks for your time guys.


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18959713 - 10/10/13 02:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

For your first time, I wouldn't try any tek to try to boost the trip. I would eat them plain without anything else on a very empty stomach for the fullest and purest experience possible. As of dosage, hard to say. Everyone is different, and everyone will tell you different dosages. Based on my experiences though, anywhere within the range of 2.2-3.5 would be a very good start into the world of mushrooms. After that, you can easily decide for yourself if you should do more or less next time based on how you felt :smile:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: BricklesBrew]
    #18959736 - 10/10/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dryed mush + fruit smoothie +all blended together = you are there. Don't drink over sugary crap that rotts your teeth. Plus caffeine OD will mess up your trip


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: BricklesBrew]
    #18959745 - 10/10/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I completely agree with the post above. AND I will ADD on to it by saying that, for some, going low on the first time is a bad idea. Not because you won't trip, but because your ego-consciousness, nervous system, whatever-will notice whats happening and freak out. On first time dosages of about 4g, it's easier to get both feet out the door before the hands have time to hold on.

BUT if you do go higher, PLEASE pay more attention to setting.


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: BricklesBrew]
    #18959748 - 10/10/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I completely agree with the first comment above. AND I will ADD on to it by saying that, for some, going low on the first time is a bad idea. Not because you won't trip, but because your ego-consciousness, nervous system, whatever-will notice whats happening and freak out. On first time dosages of about 4g, it's easier to get both feet out the door before the hands have time to hold on.

BUT if you do go higher, PLEASE pay more attention to setting.


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: Fungi]
    #18959763 - 10/10/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Fungi said:
Dryed mush + fruit smoothie +all blended together = you are there. Don't drink over sugary rap that rotts your teeth. Plus caffeine OD will mess up your trip




Ok... that's pretty important knowledge. I'll stay away from the Monster this time then.

What about the juice part? I think the argument from the shop was that high doses vitamin c messes it up as well?

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Futuresight said:
I completely agree with the first comment above. AND I will ADD on to it by saying that, for some, going low on the first time is a bad idea. Not because you won't trip, but because your ego-consciousness, nervous system, whatever-will notice whats happening and freak out. On first time dosages of about 4g, it's easier to get both feet out the door before the hands have time to hold on.

BUT if you do go higher, PLEASE pay more attention to setting.




That makes sense, but I also have a predetermined idea that I would end up being disappointed if all I achieve the first time was swirling walls and so on :/


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18959770 - 10/10/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It is a widely accepted theory that vitamin C potentiates trips, and I eat Grapefruits on trip days just for that reason, but there is not any actual evidence that it does anything.


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: Futuresight]
    #18959871 - 10/10/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Driking Monster before dosing up :facepalm:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18959874 - 10/10/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's like enlisting before you burn your draft ticket.


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18959893 - 10/10/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'd suggest you take it on empty stomach, fasting for at least 4-5 hours will be good to minimize any nausea and make the trip come on faster.

You can also use orange juice instead, grind the dried mush and mix well with either fruit smoothie or orange juice. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) actually potentiates the trip, albeit making it shorter. Why else lemon tek is so common?

And I'd reccomend 3-4 grams dry as your first trip, at home, solo.

Good vibes

PS not to sound like your big bro/dad, ditch the energy and soda drinks, they are only good for tooth decay and kidney stones not to mention heart problems. Believe me, I loved that shit as a kid.

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beforeIgetold said:
Quote:

Fungi said:
Dryed mush + fruit smoothie +all blended together = you are there. Don't drink over sugary rap that rotts your teeth. Plus caffeine OD will mess up your trip




Ok... that's pretty important knowledge. I'll stay away from the Monster this time then.

What about the juice part? I think the argument from the shop was that high doses vitamin c messes it up as well?

Quote:

Futuresight said:
I completely agree with the first comment above. AND I will ADD on to it by saying that, for some, going low on the first time is a bad idea. Not because you won't trip, but because your ego-consciousness, nervous system, whatever-will notice whats happening and freak out. On first time dosages of about 4g, it's easier to get both feet out the door before the hands have time to hold on.

BUT if you do go higher, PLEASE pay more attention to setting.




That makes sense, but I also have a predetermined idea that I would end up being disappointed if all I achieve the first time was swirling walls and so on :/




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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: Futuresight]
    #18959917 - 10/10/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Futuresight said:
It's like enlisting before you burn your draft ticket.



Lol nice. Or enlisting for the army, then doing a bunch of psychedelics and realizing that shooting folks is the last thing you want


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: Fungi]
    #18959931 - 10/10/13 03:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Fungi said:
I'd suggest you take it on empty stomach, fasting for at least 4-5 hours will be good to minimize any nausea and make the trip come on faster.

You can also use orange juice instead, grind the dried mush and mix well with either fruit smoothie or orange juice. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) actually potentiates the trip, albeit making it shorter. Why else lemon tek is so common?

And I'd reccomend 3-4 grams dry as your first trip, at home, solo.

Good vibes

PS not to sound like your big bro/dad, ditch the energy and soda drinks, they are only good for tooth decay and kidney stones not to mention heart problems. Believe me, I loved that shit as a kid.






Ok cool...

About the setting part, I'm doing it at my best friends place. Having him trip sit for me sober. We've pretty much planed it out as much as possible without setting up for failure.
So it should be good if I can get the take-off right :smile:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18960084 - 10/10/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It depends what you want to achieve. Your friend may or may not distract you from your trip which can be annoying as I felt people who are sober while I trip are judging me negatively... It's a bit of a mind fuck. If you want to talk/chill with your mate, around 2.5 grams if enough as 4 grams will put you into a deep trip and to me it was very annoying when one minute I'm floating through hyperspace and seeing rainbows and the next my mate is asking how I am... Just kill joy... But that's me.

If you don't mind, then go for it, the best and most fun is to get some nitrous! You will love it.
PS don't drink any alcohol either. Clean trips are the best.
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beforeIgetold said:
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Fungi said:
I'd suggest you take it on empty stomach, fasting for at least 4-5 hours will be good to minimize any nausea and make the trip come on faster.

You can also use orange juice instead, grind the dried mush and mix well with either fruit smoothie or orange juice. Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) actually potentiates the trip, albeit making it shorter. Why else lemon tek is so common?

And I'd reccomend 3-4 grams dry as your first trip, at home, solo.

Good vibes

PS not to sound like your big bro/dad, ditch the energy and soda drinks, they are only good for tooth decay and kidney stones not to mention heart problems. Believe me, I loved that shit as a kid.






Ok cool...

About the setting part, I'm doing it at my best friends place. Having him trip sit for me sober. We've pretty much planed it out as much as possible without setting up for failure.
So it should be good if I can get the take-off right :smile:




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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: Fungi]
    #18962991 - 10/11/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't know if you took them yet...but here is my best first time formula for (cubes)
If you have a eighth...
1) crush them up and separate 2.5 g  put the other 1 G aside
2) buy a 12 oz. bottle of OJ and pour 1/3rd into a glass
3) take the 2.5 G and mix it into the bottle 2/3 full and shake vigorously. repeating as necessary when shrooms float to top for 1/2 hr.
4) drink contents of bottle entirely and wait 45 min.
5) if you do not have the desired effects after 45 min.either a) refill the bottle with the 1 G and the oj in the glass and repeat above steps. or b) wait another 15 min and eat the other gram by itself.
If you choose a) it will have been 1 hr and 15 min since ingestion and there  will be no doubt as to whether you have felt the full effects of the 2.5G. If b) same thing with no chance of wasting last gram.:sunny::peace::goodluck:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18968420 - 10/12/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So here's a small update.

I really appreciate all the good advice!

The deal is; I have huge doubts now that the dutch shop will deliver my stuff in time (cubes...). I tried finding some local instead without luck.
So instead I've succeeded in finding 3g of semilanceata. This shroom is quite native to my area, and I've actually been out searching for it 3 timers the last month, but from what I can read on the local forum, the fields are being raided a lot these days. The 2nd time I was out me and the other picker were approached by the people working in the building where the most potentiel field was next to. They told us a couple of girls had been out there for the last 3 days picking..........

Anyways, I found a fellow picked with more semilanceata than he could trip himself, so I dipped into his stash, and he will give me 3g tomorrow.

Now this is something else I know... worlds most potent shroom right?

I still want to brush level 4 and can see that as little as 2.7 will take me there. So obviously I wont ingest the whole 3g. But should I even settle for 2 if I do it tea / oj style?

I feel set... I'm aware that I will most likely be confronted by some buried stuff, and for the last week I've been trying to bore myself with as much as I could dig out myself.
I'm trying to burn in the McKenna sentence of letting go and being accepted.
And I'm going to pay good attention to my work day, on the day of the trip and talk my sitter through it, so he has some reference to bring me back up if needed.

Setting:
- I've prepared an extensive playlist with music on Spotify Premium I consider pleasent and energetic / emotional.
- I'll pick up fresh cucumber, carrots and almonds to snack on if I'm able at all, along with water bottles.
- We are going to lay out a mattress on the sitter's floor and lower the lights, remove things that are potentially in the way and which could make me fall over.
- I'm bringing a blindfold, since I expect to lie down and ride out the most of it out on the mattress.
- My sitter knows how to maintain calm and try to steer me in a positive direction if things go bad with the tone of his voice and positive reenforcement.
- I'm turning off my cell phone!
- From what I've read so far... no movies or anything like that? Seems like all I could get from that would be giggles and if it was bad then it just become unpleasant.
- The obvious pen and paper at the start of it and we talked about trying to make a song since I have this weird thing about doing one take improvised when I'm high x)

Now one question I have. As much as I can think and repeat to myself while up here that I just need to relax and go with the flow, dont burn me and so on. Is there a sure fire way to actually maintaining that positive or neutral approach once I get under?


Edited by beforeIgetold (10/12/13 01:58 PM)


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18969013 - 10/12/13 04:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My best advice would be: don't consciously try to stay happy and calm the whole time. Sometimes that leads to having the thought "Wonder what a bad trip would be like?" Well at least that's how it's always gone down when I'm tripping. Just keep your mind off of how your mood should be, and just let your mind take you where it wants to. If the setting is right, it naturally keeps you in the good vibes. Setting has always been the determining factor for the mood of my trips. The music will also greatly improve your mood naturally. Hope you have a good trip man! :mushroom2:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: BricklesBrew]
    #18979590 - 10/15/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's been done....

Trip report can be found here:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=18979585&page=0&vc=#18979585

It was AMAZING! :smile:


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Re: Trying to sort it out... (first time - Cubensis) [Re: beforeIgetold]
    #18979629 - 10/15/13 12:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I did 1.95g my first time and had an amazing time with 4 other people, 3 on shrooms and one sober. I'd recommend 2-2.5 grams though first time, close to the latter. Do NOT do 3.5 grams for first time, that's a pretty strong dose.


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