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TheBeardedNerd


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Amanita var. Guessowii?
#18959725 - 10/10/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey everyone! I'm back after being too busy to know what to do with my time and I have an ID request! I was driving along to the store and saw a fairy ring, I pulled over and lo-and-behold I found some type of Amanita. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but from little what I know my best guess is Amanita Muscaria var. Guessowii. I'm probably wrong but that's why I always get a second opinion from the Shroomery!
I picked a few and left the rest for later if I get a positive ID.
Habitat: They were all growing on the side of the road (On grass,) near some types of Evergreen trees with small needles, not like a pine. I'm in the North Carolina mountains at an elevation of 2800 feet. The temperature has been pretty chilly lately (around 45-65 degrees at night) but we just got a ton of HEAVY rains and get will get up to around 80 degrees during the day.
Gills: White, some attached, some not.
Stem: Solid stipes, very thick and bulbous at the bottom like your typical Amanitas with concentric rings and a veil near the cap on most of the specimens. No bruising.
Cap: Orange to Yellow and Yellow to White on some of the specimens. They have the typical whitish yellow warts all over.
Other information:
First specimen:



Second specimen:



Third specimen:



I tried to get specimens that varied in how they looked as much as possible so that you all could give me a good ID!
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art2312
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looking good sir!
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Futuresight
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959753 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will add the obligatory second, "Seems all right to me" post!
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Hashfinger
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959754 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to see more pictures of the caps. I think some of them could in fact be Amanita muscaria var. persicina. The one on the bottom definitely looks more yellow and that is what I would call guessowii. Just research persicina, and keep your eyes peeled. I bet they're in your area.
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Futuresight
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
#18959765 - 10/10/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first two also appear to be yellow, but seem darker because of shadows. Maybe my eyes are stupid.
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Hashfinger
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959780 - 10/10/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pretty sure its just the lighting in the photos throwing me off. It also makes the warts look yellow, but they're white. Amanita muscaria var. guessowii
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art2312
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959788 - 10/10/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all
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Hashfinger
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959799 - 10/10/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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art2312 said: the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all 
Yeah the tell-tale sign of persicina is that peachy sheen that they acquire when they dry or desiccate in the sun.
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art2312
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
#18959816 - 10/10/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah...seems like a unique color.... I don't remember seeing that shade of color on any other mushrooms that I can remember.
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TheBeardedNerd


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959825 - 10/10/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I ran and grabbed a couple other specimens to take pictures for you all:
Specimen 1:

Specimen 2:

Edited for bad photos lol.
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 02:51 PM)
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art2312
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nice little guys!
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TheBeardedNerd


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Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.
Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 02:57 PM)
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art2312
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959849 - 10/10/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol, cant blame her. your good, but im sure one will come along
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lsms
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From your last pictures
#1 looks like persicina to me #2 guessowii
I should note that I am color blind. These are a recent A. muscaria var guessowii patch I found. If that helps at all?
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Edited by lsms (10/10/13 02:59 PM)
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TheBeardedNerd


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
#18959877 - 10/10/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh! By the way.
This is my first time ever finding psychoactives while on the hunt. And I've never ingested Amanitas. Do I have to prepare them? Or can I just bite right into the raw mushroom?
How is the trip? How much is too much?
Are both Guessowii and Percisina edibles?
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Futuresight
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A simple google search can usually locate all of that information, or some can be found here:
http://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria
I can attest to the part where they suggest frying them in butter. MmmMmm Goood!
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Edited by Futuresight (10/10/13 03:05 PM)
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art2312
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noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time
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TheBeardedNerd


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959886 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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'Doh, sorry. I should know better than to ask you all questions that I can find the info to myself. Thanks Futuresight.
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art2312 said: noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time
And thanks! That's why I asked <3!
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 03:06 PM)
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rev0kadavur
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Guessowii
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art2312
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959888 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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and Isms has a great extract method you should look into...im sure he'd be more than happy to link you up
-------------------- I don't mind being ogled, ridiculed, made to feel minuscule. If you consider the source, it's kinda pitiful The only thing you really know about me is.....That's all you'll ever know!!!!
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