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Amanita var. Guessowii?
#18959725 - 10/10/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey everyone! I'm back after being too busy to know what to do with my time and I have an ID request! I was driving along to the store and saw a fairy ring, I pulled over and lo-and-behold I found some type of Amanita. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but from little what I know my best guess is Amanita Muscaria var. Guessowii. I'm probably wrong but that's why I always get a second opinion from the Shroomery!
I picked a few and left the rest for later if I get a positive ID.
Habitat: They were all growing on the side of the road (On grass,) near some types of Evergreen trees with small needles, not like a pine. I'm in the North Carolina mountains at an elevation of 2800 feet. The temperature has been pretty chilly lately (around 45-65 degrees at night) but we just got a ton of HEAVY rains and get will get up to around 80 degrees during the day.
Gills: White, some attached, some not.
Stem: Solid stipes, very thick and bulbous at the bottom like your typical Amanitas with concentric rings and a veil near the cap on most of the specimens. No bruising.
Cap: Orange to Yellow and Yellow to White on some of the specimens. They have the typical whitish yellow warts all over.
Other information:
First specimen:



Second specimen:



Third specimen:



I tried to get specimens that varied in how they looked as much as possible so that you all could give me a good ID!
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looking good sir!
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959753 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I will add the obligatory second, "Seems all right to me" post!
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959754 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd like to see more pictures of the caps. I think some of them could in fact be Amanita muscaria var. persicina. The one on the bottom definitely looks more yellow and that is what I would call guessowii. Just research persicina, and keep your eyes peeled. I bet they're in your area.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
#18959765 - 10/10/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The first two also appear to be yellow, but seem darker because of shadows. Maybe my eyes are stupid.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959780 - 10/10/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Pretty sure its just the lighting in the photos throwing me off. It also makes the warts look yellow, but they're white. Amanita muscaria var. guessowii
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959788 - 10/10/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959799 - 10/10/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said: the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all 
Yeah the tell-tale sign of persicina is that peachy sheen that they acquire when they dry or desiccate in the sun.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
#18959816 - 10/10/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah...seems like a unique color.... I don't remember seeing that shade of color on any other mushrooms that I can remember.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959825 - 10/10/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I ran and grabbed a couple other specimens to take pictures for you all:
Specimen 1:

Specimen 2:

Edited for bad photos lol.
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 02:51 PM)
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nice little guys!
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Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.
Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 02:57 PM)
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959849 - 10/10/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol, cant blame her. your good, but im sure one will come along
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From your last pictures
#1 looks like persicina to me #2 guessowii
I should note that I am color blind. These are a recent A. muscaria var guessowii patch I found. If that helps at all?
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Edited by lsms (10/10/13 02:59 PM)
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
#18959877 - 10/10/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Oh! By the way.
This is my first time ever finding psychoactives while on the hunt. And I've never ingested Amanitas. Do I have to prepare them? Or can I just bite right into the raw mushroom?
How is the trip? How much is too much?
Are both Guessowii and Percisina edibles?
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A simple google search can usually locate all of that information, or some can be found here:
http://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria
I can attest to the part where they suggest frying them in butter. MmmMmm Goood!
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noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
#18959886 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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'Doh, sorry. I should know better than to ask you all questions that I can find the info to myself. Thanks Futuresight.
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art2312 said: noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time
And thanks! That's why I asked <3!
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Guessowii
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959888 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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and Isms has a great extract method you should look into...im sure he'd be more than happy to link you up
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Alot of people would suggest not ingesting them in order to "trip". You would still need to cook them a certain way for that purpose, because it plays a chemical affect in the mushroom. It is recommended to take it easy on the consumption, though.
If you want them for food, which is probably what everyone would agree on, then you would want to boil out all the toxins, by boiling a special way to get all the toxins out, and they taste really great.
An interesting video suggests people all over the world - like shaman - used to drink the water from the fully formed cup-shaped pileus. It is less common to consume A. muscaria in that manner, these days, but some people still use them. And they say that drinking your urine after consuming A. muscaria is "a must" to experience more Ibotenic acid.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: rev0kadavur]
#18959894 - 10/10/13 03:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Boil them for a gourmet dinner~
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: rev0kadavur]
#18959898 - 10/10/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heat for converting the Toxins to Tripp-able consumption.
Double Boil to convert toxins and leech out the trippy-ness.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
#18959906 - 10/10/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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jet li said: Alot of people would suggest not ingesting them in order to "trip". You would still need to cook them a certain way for that purpose, because it plays a chemical affect in the mushroom. It is recommended to take it easy on the consumption, though.
If you want them for food, which is probably what everyone would agree on, then you would want to boil out all the toxins, by boiling a special way to get all the toxins out, and they taste really great.
An interesting video suggests people used to drink the water from the fully formed cup-shaped pileus...like shaman.
Can I have the link to that video?
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
#18959918 - 10/10/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959921 - 10/10/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah just a sec. It's in this forum somewhere.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18959952 - 10/10/13 03:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome, I read the Amanita preparation guide that you linked Futuresight. Awesome info. It sounds like frying them in butter is the way to go then!
Oh, and the best way to store them would be to put them in the oven with the door open on the lowest setting for an hour and either powdering them or keeping the caps whole and storing them in an air tight container, correct?
Edited by TheBeardedNerd (10/10/13 03:25 PM)
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Amanita need to be consumed with respect or the will make you regret ever picking them.
That being said, proper preparation and proper dosage will lead to a good time. They aren't the tripping your face off mushrooms you may be looking for though.
I wrote up a little extraction process that I use with amanita muscaria, it seems to be the easiest on my stomach. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18925908
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
#18960005 - 10/10/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
#18960011 - 10/10/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lsms said: Amanita need to be consumed with respect or the will make you regret ever picking them.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18960021 - 10/10/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well shoot I can't find that thread the video was in, but someone posted in an ID request thread, and it was a whole bunch of stuff, but a good portion of the last half of the video was all about Amanita muscaria, and it's relationship to all religions, including its resemblance of a holy grail, and a bible verse "Eat my flesh, and drink my blood"
I really want to say Ganzig posted that video link, but I can't find it.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
#18960028 - 10/10/13 03:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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could we maybe find it on youtube? what should we search for if so?
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
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Hahahah good idea. lolol.
Skip to 32 min. into the vid.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
#18960091 - 10/10/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Amanitas are the holy grail??
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rev0kadavur said: Amanitas are the holy grail??

and santa clause. and manna, and they probably shot kennedy.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
#18960104 - 10/10/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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lsms said: Amanita need to be consumed with respect or the will make you regret ever picking them.
That being said, proper preparation and proper dosage will lead to a good time. They aren't the tripping your face off mushrooms you may be looking for though.
I wrote up a little extraction process that I use with amanita muscaria, it seems to be the easiest on my stomach. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18925908
100% agree. That goes with any "drug." Or anything you injest for that matter. You have to respect what you put into your body.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: canid]
#18960107 - 10/10/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hahahahah touche mon frere.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
#18960214 - 10/10/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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John Allegro. Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: canid]
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lol... they probably did~
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TheBeardedNerd said: Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.
Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!
You guys are all set to consume. Just make sure they are prepared correctly to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
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Blue-FunGuy said:
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TheBeardedNerd said: Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.
Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!
You guys are all set to consume. Just make sure they are prepared correctly to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
As I use these things more, I'm starting to discover properties of both ibotenic acid and muscimol that each have their own unique application. Ibotenic acid really seems to warm me up and get me active. If its butt-ass cold outside, I'm eating the caps fresh. No questions asked. If I want an entheogenic experience or visions, etc. toasting must be done. Just thought I'd add that tidbit.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
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Hashfinger said: prepared correctly to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
As I use these things more, I'm starting to discover properties of both ibotenic acid and muscimol that each have their own unique application. Ibotenic acid really seems to warm me up and get me active. If its butt-ass cold outside, I'm eating the caps fresh. No questions asked. If I want an entheogenic experience or visions, etc. toasting must be done. Just thought I'd add that tidbit.
Interesting
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
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Hey again everyone! Time for an update. I just got all my caps and stems ready to dry out and I took a couple 5 gram portions for me and my girl and fried them with butter to see how the experience is. So far, so good.
I have another ID request though and I figured I'd post it here since all of the information is the same. It was found in the same habitat but what struck me odd about this amanita is that it had more of a whiter cap with a trace of yellow (Maybe due to sunbleaching?) I thought it was another Guessowii until I notice that the stem bruised blue, unlike any of the others.
Is the blue bruising typical of Guessowii and I just didn't notice it on the other stems or do I have a different type of Amanita here?
Oh, and I just wanted to take a moment to really thank all of you for the amazing help. You accepted me right into the community and you helped me without any other reason to help. It's awesome to see this kind of community thrive in the current state of the world. Thank you, thank you... thank you, so much!


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TheBeardedNerd said: Hey again everyone! Time for an update. I just got all my caps and stems ready to dry out and I took a couple 5 gram portions for me and my girl and fried them with butter to see how the experience is. So far, so good.
I have another ID request though and I figured I'd post it here since all of the information is the same. It was found in the same habitat but what struck me odd about this amanita is that it had more of a whiter cap with a trace of yellow (Maybe due to sunbleaching?) I thought it was another Guessowii until I notice that the stem bruised blue, unlike any of the others.
Is the blue bruising typical of Guessowii and I just didn't notice it on the other stems or do I have a different type of Amanita here?
Oh, and I just wanted to take a moment to really thank all of you for the amazing help. You accepted me right into the community and you helped me without any other reason to help. It's awesome to see this kind of community thrive in the current state of the world. Thank you, thank you... thank you, so much!



What the... Why would that be bruising blue?
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
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TheBeardedNerd said: Hey again everyone! Time for an update. I just got all my caps and stems ready to dry out and I took a couple 5 gram portions for me and my girl and fried them with butter to see how the experience is. So far, so good.
I have another ID request though and I figured I'd post it here since all of the information is the same. It was found in the same habitat but what struck me odd about this amanita is that it had more of a whiter cap with a trace of yellow (Maybe due to sunbleaching?) I thought it was another Guessowii until I notice that the stem bruised blue, unlike any of the others.
Is the blue bruising typical of Guessowii and I just didn't notice it on the other stems or do I have a different type of Amanita here?
Oh, and I just wanted to take a moment to really thank all of you for the amazing help. You accepted me right into the community and you helped me without any other reason to help. It's awesome to see this kind of community thrive in the current state of the world. Thank you, thank you... thank you, so much!



What the... Why would that be bruising blue? 
It wouldn't.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: canid]
#18960562 - 10/10/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Then what in the blue fuck is that!?
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
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 Then what in the blue fuck is that!?
who knows?
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: canid]
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I wonder if it's Amanita Guessowii var ???. It has to be crossed with something that would bruise blue. It was located near to two very large Guessowii and I just thought it was one that had been sunbleached.
It was the only one in the batch that bruised blue, I'm glad I caught it because it would have sucked to injest and unidentified Amanita!
Here's a little trip report thus far though. I took my first little 5 gram sliver about 50 minutes ago. It's a very mild, fun, bubbly, light buzz. I'm getting trails, I'm vibrating a tad and it's like a very mild marijuana high with more trails. Excellent! Not bad at all!
I fried them in butter with some Himalayan sea salt and ground black pepper. It tasted like a cut of steak that melted in my mouth. I saved one of the larger caps for frying while I wait for my "Amanita Hash" to finish (By the way, thanks for the guide LSMS.)
I easily got a good 7 or 8 pounds of Guessowii and left a good 3 or 4 pounds to repopulate the area. Not bad for a novice mycologist, huh? So that will produce a good amount of the "hash."
When I saw the fairy ring of them as I drove by it blew my mind when I got up close and saw them. I had no clue they grew at this elevation.
I had a hard time cutting off the caps, I actually felt bad for doing it because I respect these mushrooms so much. It's an awesome experience for sure.
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I'm thinking their had to be something on the ground around it...maybe a Berry that was blue bled on it. Or something like that....
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
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TheBeardedNerd said: Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.
Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!
You guys are all set to consume. Just make sure they are prepared correctly to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
I can't believe I forgot to thank you for the positive ID on them. Thank you muchly! I appreciate it .
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If you have one of those nail and dome things for your water-pipe you can vaporize the Amani-hash too.  I have not tried this personally but I read a post of someone doing it with good results.
As far as your bluing I do not see it at all, I am color blind though.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
#18960846 - 10/10/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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art2312 said: I'm thinking their had to be something on the ground around it...maybe a Berry that was blue bled on it. Or something like that....
Or something on dude's thumb.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
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art2312 said: I'm thinking their had to be something on the ground around it...maybe a Berry that was blue bled on it. Or something like that....
The bluing is definitely in the stipe. And I'm pretty sure there were no berries near it. It was located until a connifer and as far as I know, connifers don't have berries, haha! And my hands are clean. Let me go check it and see if it bruised up more.
And thanks for that lsms, I do have a nail and dome so I guess I can start smoking my Amani-hash some time tomorrow! Thanks so much!
And a question. I'm drying my Guessowii out right now and it's been about an hour but they aren't completely dried yet. I followed the guides properly but maybe I have them too crowded. Will this hurt my end product? And the liquid in the bottom of the pyrex dish is the ibotenic acid, correct?
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Amanitas don't bruise blue
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No problem, let me know how it is. If you want to find out if that amanita is bruising or not, cut it in half and see if it turns blue where you cut it.
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Nah. Something blue that stipe, because it's not bruising blue.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: o8u]
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If it was a juniper, that is an evergreen that could potentially host amanita and also have berries. Lol.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
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Looks like it to me except the bruising.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: xfsketch]
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It wouldn't be the first time something like this turned out to be a joke on us, involving a marker :P
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: xfsketch]
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not only that, animals carry things around constantly...why not a berry? or even a little piece of berry...what if a bird dropped something from a tree? or a squirrel ...whatever it was, it wasn't the amanita bruising...
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: jet li]
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lol.....ooooor that
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Lol, no jokes here. But I trust you all. Thanks for the ID on it.
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And a question. I'm drying my Guessowii out right now and it's been about an hour but they aren't completely dried yet. I followed the guides properly but maybe I have them too crowded. Will this hurt my end product? And the liquid in the bottom of the pyrex dish is the ibotenic acid, correct?
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enjoy
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
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Thanks man! I hope I'm drying these out right. I transferred them into a dehydrator because I just don't have enough space in my oven for all of them. With them more spread out on the racks hopefully I'll have some positive results by morning, then I can start with my Amani-hash.
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sounds like fun!!! sweet finds and good luck...just remember not to over do it to quickly sounds like you got though
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Pour the liquid back over the mushrooms and keep drying until they snap in half like a cracker The dehydrator is good aswell.
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
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Thanks man!
I'm going to smoke the hash once I make it, so I'm interested in experience the effects as apposed to eating it. I'll post back with a trip report once it's all said and done and let you know how it goes.
I know you haven't smoked the Amani-hash yet but do you have any idea how much weight wise I'd be safe to smoke? Does it still cause nausea if you smoke it? I know you use this method to reduce nausea from eating it but smoking substances is usually a different game, haha.
I wonder if it'd be safe to smoke small amounts of it with weed. I'll definitely try that (Don't worry, I'll be trepidatious when I try it, I don't want to go TOO deep, lol.) If it's a good high I'll probably just roll little hash balls and coat them in kief.
I'm definitely looking forward to it, I'm definitely a smoke kind of guy. I love eating mushrooms, but if there's something to be smoked, that's usually my first choice, haha!
Oh and before anyone tosses out the ol' google it remark, I did! I don't think enough people smoke amanita hash to have valid information on it, haha.
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I have smoked the skin of the amanitas, its a mellow pot-like high. I wouldn't reccomend smoking over a gram, but everyone has a different experience with Amanita. Test the waters before you go in on a 1 gram dab. I have read a few times that people mixed it with herb or there was some leaf that they liked to smoke it with also(wood worm maybe?).
I just to also wanted to make sure you know that you almost have to freeze the extract in order to keep it manageable it's probably too sludgey to roll balls of, unless they are frozen of course. It's similar to a bad wash of QWIso hash
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
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Why all the extracting and smoking. It sounds needlessly complicated and time consuming. If you want to consume Amanitas why not just eat them? I don't understand the desire to randomly smoke stuff. It just seems gross to me
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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TimmiT]
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I do the extraction so I can have them in a capsule form, I don't care for the taste of them personally. I also don't get the nausea this way. As far as smoking it's not a bad taste, and they effects are a little bit different from eating. To each his own of course.
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I'm doing the extraction because I do tend to get nauseous when eating any type of mushroom, be it Psilocybin or Amanita.
Last night was my first time trying Amanita and while the effects were fantastic, I did have a bit of an upset stomach, another couple of grams and I'd definitely have been nauseous.
And it's really not complicated. Chop'em up, toss them in the oven or a dehydrator, powder them and let them sit in ISO. Very little actual time involved, most of it's sitting and waiting (Which I don't mind.)
Plus, I'm a smoking kind of guy. If I could do the same thing with Psilocybin I probably would if it gave similar effects to eating them. I just haven't seen any extraction methods (If you even can.)
I don't know, I can see how it seems silly to some people but I guess it more what I'm comfortable with.
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There's the "Crystals of the Gods" extraction method you might want to look into also.
Extraction talk should probably go to the extraction thread as to not spam the hunting section with chemistry.
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