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Amanita var. Guessowii?
    #18959725 - 10/10/13 02:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey everyone! I'm back after being too busy to know what to do with my time and I have an ID request! I was driving along to the store and saw a fairy ring, I pulled over and lo-and-behold I found some type of Amanita. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but from little what I know my best guess is Amanita Muscaria var. Guessowii. I'm probably wrong but that's why I always get a second opinion from the Shroomery!

I picked a few and left the rest for later if I get a positive ID.

Habitat:
They were all growing on the side of the road (On grass,) near some types of Evergreen trees with small needles, not like a pine. I'm in the North Carolina mountains at an elevation of 2800 feet. The temperature has been pretty chilly lately (around 45-65 degrees at night) but we just got a ton of HEAVY rains and get will get up to around 80 degrees during the day.

Gills:
White, some attached, some not.

Stem:
Solid stipes, very thick and bulbous at the bottom like your typical Amanitas with concentric rings and a veil near the cap on most of the specimens. No bruising.

Cap:
Orange to Yellow and Yellow to White on some of the specimens. They have the typical whitish yellow warts all over.


Other information:

First specimen:




Second specimen:




Third specimen:




I tried to get specimens that varied in how they looked as much as possible so that you all could give me a good ID!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959733 - 10/10/13 02:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup: looking good sir!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959753 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I will add the obligatory second, "Seems all right to me" post!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959754 - 10/10/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'd like to see more pictures of the caps. I think some of them could in fact be Amanita muscaria var. persicina. The one on the bottom definitely looks more yellow and that is what I would call guessowii. Just research persicina, and keep your eyes peeled. I bet they're in your area. :thumbup:


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18959765 - 10/10/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The first two also appear to be yellow, but seem darker because of shadows. Maybe my eyes are stupid. :shrug:


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
    #18959780 - 10/10/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Pretty sure its just the lighting in the photos throwing me off. It also makes the warts look yellow, but they're white. Amanita muscaria var. guessowii :thumbup:


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(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
    #18959788 - 10/10/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all :wink:


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959799 - 10/10/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

art2312 said:
the first one looks a little persicina-ish but I might just be wanting to see it lol...I would guess guessowii on them all :wink:



Yeah the tell-tale sign of persicina is that peachy sheen that they acquire when they dry or desiccate in the sun.


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Species List (Georgia): Psilocybe caerulescens/weilii, Psilocybe atlantis/galindoi, Psilocybe cubensis, Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Psilocybe semilanceata, Psilocybe fagicola, Copelandia cyanescens, Panaeolus cinctulus, Panaeolus fimicola, Panaeolus olivaceus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus, Gymnopilus junonius, Pluteus salicinus

(Ohio): Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, Psilocybe caerulipes, Pluteus cyanopus, Pluteus salicinus sensu lato..., Panaeolus cinctulus, Gymnopilus luteus, Gymnopilus luteofolius, Gymnopilus junonius, Gymnopilus aeruginosus


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Hashfinger]
    #18959816 - 10/10/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yeah...seems like a unique color.... I don't remember seeing that shade of color on any other mushrooms that I can remember.


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959825 - 10/10/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I ran and grabbed a couple other specimens to take pictures for you all:

Specimen 1:



Specimen 2:


Edited for bad photos lol.


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959840 - 10/10/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

nice little guys! :thumbup:


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959841 - 10/10/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Any Trusted IDer's floating around? My girlfriend is still sketchy about them even though I'm positive they are guessowii. She doesn't want to eat them without a positive ID from a trusted identifier, haha.

Oh, and when I do get a positive ID I'll go back to the spot and grab a few more, there's got to be at least 10 pounds of them growing where I found them. That way I can post a picture of the whole harvest.

Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to pick them all! After all, I do want them to grow back so I can go back and get more when they grow again!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959849 - 10/10/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

lol, cant blame her. your good, but im sure one will come along :thumbup:


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959853 - 10/10/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From your last pictures

#1 looks like persicina to me
#2 guessowii

I should note that I am color blind.:crazy:
These are a recent A. muscaria var guessowii patch I found. If that helps at all?


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: lsms]
    #18959877 - 10/10/13 03:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Oh! By the way.

This is my first time ever finding psychoactives while on the hunt. And I've never ingested Amanitas. Do I have to prepare them? Or can I just bite right into the raw mushroom?

How is the trip? How much is too much?

Are both Guessowii and Percisina edibles?


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959881 - 10/10/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A simple google search can usually locate all of that information, or some can be found here:

http://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria

I can attest to the part where they suggest frying them in butter. MmmMmm Goood!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959884 - 10/10/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: Futuresight]
    #18959886 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

'Doh, sorry. I should know better than to ask you all questions that I can find the info to myself. Thanks Futuresight.

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art2312 said:
noooo..... you have to prepare them. and they are NOTHING like "magic" mushrooms...research research research...and don't over do it...5 grams is plenty for a first time




And thanks! That's why I asked <3!


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: TheBeardedNerd]
    #18959887 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Guessowii :thumbup:


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Re: Amanita var. Guessowii? [Re: art2312]
    #18959888 - 10/10/13 03:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

and Isms has a great extract method you should look into...im sure he'd be more than happy to link you up :wink:


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