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mannyfester
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Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars
#18958923 - 10/10/13 11:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey there!
So a quick intro. This is my first successful project thus far (last attempt was completely contaminated) and I've taken the go big or go home approach. Not trying to be cocky, I just plan to share these freely with a large group of people and due to limited time I chose to start a lot of jars at once.
So far I have half the jars consolidating and the rest are a few days away from consolidation themselves. I made 96 jars and only 4 seem to be having any issues. But I'm coming to the realization that there are many directions i can take from doing multiple standard SGFC's to converting these PF tek cakes into a bulk grow to maximize volume. I'm willing to invest 150-200$ to make sure they come out well, just curious what you guys think my best next step would be. I've toyed around with the idea of building a martha, just not sure if the size would be adequate.
So should i continue with the PF tek or do bulk? Maybe do a mix of both and get learning experience from both?
PS: I'm looking to have these fruited and dried by the end of the month ideally and i'm 19 days in so far.
Edited by mannyfester (10/10/13 12:21 PM)
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18959007 - 10/10/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bulk. Spawn to coir. About your timetable, good luck. Do a sgfc for several cakes and hope you have fruits by then.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18959033 - 10/10/13 11:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, if you go bulk, you're looking at 1+ months as you basically start over in the bulk substrate, so take that into account.
If you're wanting to build a big terrarium (fruiting chamber)on a very limited budget, here's what I did. I first started out with PF Cakes about 8 years ago and on a limited budget, I just went to HomeDepot and bought those 2'x4' 3/4" Styrofoam sheets. They are like $6 or so bucks each.
I just silicone sealed the Styrofoam base sheets together, then the sides to the base. I bought those cheap flourescent light clear covers (go to any store and look up, you'll see flourescent bulbs in the roof and covered by those clear covers to let the light shine through). Anyways, I bought some of those, laid it on top, cut a hole in the side of the fruiting chamber for the hose from my humidifier to go through, and bingo bango, cheap as hell fruiting chamber.
If you have a table to stick it on, that would be ideal (will have to be a dining room type table). If you have to have it on the floor because nothing is large enough to hold it, then try to either sanitize as best you can a tile floor in an area that doesn't get any foot traffic and stick it on the floor. If you can only swing sticking it on carpet, try to line the carpet with plastic first to keep all the crap in carpets that vacuums can't get up from contaminating your batch. Plastic rolls can be found at HomeDepot as well.
Good luck!
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: BigPete1999]
#18959137 - 10/10/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good looks on the advice BigPete. Looks like I will be sticking with the cakes!
As to the Styrofoam fruiting chamber, I honestly don't have that much room 
I was thinking of double stacking the cakes in a SGFC but I feel like that won't work because they are half pint regular mouth jars and would possibly tip over.
How many half pint regular mouth jars do you guys think could fit in a regular martha?
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18959206 - 10/10/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't try to fruit 96 cakes, smh. Use the majority of them for bulk. In the meantime fruit several in a sgfc so you have fruits in the meantime.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: BigPete1999]
#18959208 - 10/10/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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90+ PF jars 
Recycle the jars and move on to grains.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18959240 - 10/10/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by saralove (09/08/16 12:53 AM)
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Mush4Brains]
#18959446 - 10/10/13 01:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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He should bulk them all, but he wants them by the end of the month. They won't even be ready to go in the FC by the end of the month if he spawns to bulk. He's stuck between a rock and a very hard place.
The most jars I think I ever fruited at once was 48 (cause that was 4 12packs). It went without a hitch. Got 3 flushes from them and lots of fruit.
But if he doesn't have the space to do it right, then he should go bulk and ditch this "by the end of THIS month" expectation.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18959518 - 10/10/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If they are consolidated, then put them in a SGFC and you could possibly have fruits next week.
If they are not consolidated, then you can spawn them to bulk and possibly have fruits in 2-3 weeks.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: BigPete1999]
#18959521 - 10/10/13 01:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can stack the regular half pints in a SGFC. If you're having trouble use a couple tooth picks to hold them together. I would definitely put some tin foil between them or the bottom cake will get soggy.
Like said above you're going to have to fruit them as cakes if you want yields quicker.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: bodhisatta]
#18959542 - 10/10/13 01:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pictures or it didn't happen....
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Nakor420]
#18963727 - 10/11/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice guys and I definitely will post some pics!
I see where you guys come from in some of your attitudes about doing so many jars and the fact that its my first successful time doing it thus far. But I wanted to do PFtek because its the best way to learn so thats what I'm doing
I assure you though that I'm not retarded nor cocky for that matter, I'm just doing it this way because thats just the way the cookie crumbles in this given situation.
I set off with such a large goal not to make money fast but to share with 100+ people and with the time allotted too me recently this is just how I got to do it. I hope you all can get behind me on that thought.
Looks like I'm either going to buy or build a small greenhouse to do these in and hopefully they will all fit.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18963729 - 10/11/13 12:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Worst case scenario is you'll have to buy a bunch of perlite, 8 lights, and 8 fruiting chambers large enough to hold 12 cakes each.
My advice will be don't stack the cakes, they won't perform as well.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18963740 - 10/11/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You'll get higher yields and larger fruits spawning to bulk rather than fruiting the cakes directly.... js
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: mannyfester]
#18964191 - 10/11/13 02:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mannyfester said: Good looks on the advice BigPete. Looks like I will be sticking with the cakes!
As to the Styrofoam fruiting chamber, I honestly don't have that much room 
I was thinking of double stacking the cakes in a SGFC but I feel like that won't work because they are half pint regular mouth jars and would possibly tip over.
How many half pint regular mouth jars do you guys think could fit in a regular martha?
So can you please post a picture of your Half Pint regular mouth jars, and explain how you are planning on getting the cakes out?
Dude I just got done with 24 cakes in 4 sgfc, 90 cakes is insane. That is like 15 SGFC's, and like 18 bags of Perlite. Unless you can get it in bulk. Your better off taking those cakes and throwing them in an outdoor grow.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Sockadin]
#18964205 - 10/11/13 02:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sockadin said:
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mannyfester said: Good looks on the advice BigPete. Looks like I will be sticking with the cakes!
As to the Styrofoam fruiting chamber, I honestly don't have that much room 
I was thinking of double stacking the cakes in a SGFC but I feel like that won't work because they are half pint regular mouth jars and would possibly tip over.
How many half pint regular mouth jars do you guys think could fit in a regular martha?
So can you please post a picture of your Half Pint regular mouth jars, and explain how you are planning on getting the cakes out?
Dude I just got done with 24 cakes in 4 sgfc, 90 cakes is insane. That is like 15 SGFC's, and like 18 bags of Perlite. Unless you can get it in bulk. Your better off taking those cakes and throwing them in an outdoor grow.
That's all I ever used. They come out just as easy.  Is the only reason you hate them because of what you read other people write?
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: bodhisatta]
#18964211 - 10/11/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are even the wrong size jars.
You want the short half pints.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: PussyFart]
#18964795 - 10/11/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I could have found some wide mouth half pints, that would have been awesome. However that was not the case.
The outdoor grow idea has definitely crossed my mind. What do you think the time table is for something like that?
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Cpt.Crunch]
#18964876 - 10/11/13 05:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cpt.Crunch said: Worst case scenario is you'll have to buy a bunch of perlite, 8 lights, and 8 fruiting chambers large enough to hold 12 cakes each.
My advice will be don't stack the cakes, they won't perform as well.
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fahtster said: I'm not sure if you've seen these pics before, but if you have I apologize for the repost..
there's 24 cakes in each one of these tubs...
PE's:

Texas two bins with 24 cakes each:

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if anything the crowded space promotes better growth as the cakes provide the ambient atmosphere for each other... kind of a one hand washes the other thing.
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Re: Advice needed: fruiting chamber for 90+ jars [Re: Doc_D]
#18965109 - 10/11/13 06:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats exactly what I like to see, I was interested about crowding.
I debated it with my mentor of sorts and I'm gonna invest in doing a Martha with hopefully 5 shelves. I figure with the amount of jars it will definitely be worth the investment for what I'm trying to do. Hopefully the optimal conditions that I hope it will provide should help the whole process.
Thanks again for all the advice guys!
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