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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18899316 - 09/27/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah...Amazon sells rubbermade totes....order a clear plastic one and build a shot gun fruiting chamber like YESTERDAY. In fact you can get everything you need on Amazon. I have Amazon Prime so I don't even pay shipping.
Edited by Nakor420 (09/27/13 03:55 PM)
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18899346 - 09/27/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd go buy a plastic box and start drilling holes as soon as possible. And some perlite. I walked across my town with one huge box (55L) in each arm. Got a few stares, but certainly didn't need a car 
Or you could find a smaller box you might have laying around your house and make a dub-tub. You're screwing yourself over by growing in a plastic bag.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: spacechildo]
#18899483 - 09/27/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can guess what people here will say about this but I'd like to hear it anyway. It's $99 with $25 for shipping so $124 total. Sold by a marketplace seller so not eligible for Prime. I'm just posting a pic of it because I don't think they're a sponsored vendor. I'm thinking people will say "Too expensive. You can get all the supplies cheaper." "You still won't learn anything."
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18899748 - 09/27/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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kitkit69 said: I can guess what people here will say about this but I'd like to hear it anyway. It's $99 with $25 for shipping so $124 total. Sold by a marketplace seller so not eligible for Prime. I'm just posting a pic of it because I don't think they're a sponsored vendor. I'm thinking people will say "Too expensive. You can get all the supplies cheaper." "You still won't learn anything."

Exactly!
Kits come with items like air pumps, which are 100% totally unnecessary.
Getting the supplies together to set up a PF cake grow is cheap comparatively. Getting the correct jars is the issue, but aside from that the remaining needs are satisfied by going to a health food store for Brown rice flower, and a hardware store for the vermiculite and perlite. You will spend much less, and get much more.....and something that is tailored by yourself to grow a specific fungi.
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Well for now I'm having trouble finding a clear plastic tote with a clear lid. Checked amazon, walmart and ebay. A lot have white lids. I'm thinking clear would be better? I can walk up to walmart and big-lots tomorrow but I'm thinking they're going to have the same I'm finding online and maybe just colored totes.
Edit: NVM Found what looks like will be perfect on the rubbermaid site and found it on amazon. I'm thinking the 95 quart one will be big enough withroom to work. http://www.rubbermaid.com/Category/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatName=Storage&SubcatId=CleverStore&Prod_ID=RP091403
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Edited by kitkit69 (09/27/13 06:01 PM)
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18899827 - 09/27/13 06:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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What was all that crap you were gonna spend 100$ on? Clearly not worth it for a tote, 6 jars and some gloves..
I don't live in the us of a, but it seems most people here get totes and stuff from walmart and some of those other big chain stores..
I find it much easier to find stuff in stores rather than online, but I also have to pay crazy shipping prizes.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: spacechildo]
#18901853 - 09/28/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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First...that kit is SO bad....wrong jars, horrible filter patch, clay balls instead of perlite, unnecessary electronic contraptions....

You can use a non clear lid...cut out the middle of the lid and tape plastic wrap over the hole...It doesn't have to be pretty....just has to work....like this one...same thing...clear tote with a white lid... I fixed it up...

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st?keywords=plastic+tote&qid=1380377465&rh=n%3A1055398%2Ck%3Aplastic+tote&sort=price
Go look at this page on Amazon...sort Home and Kitchen - price low to high
Edited by Nakor420 (09/28/13 08:12 AM)
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: Nakor420]
#18949172 - 10/08/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I finally got a tote yesterday. Had to order it. I just want to make sure, you drill holes on all 6 sides? Even the bottom? The pieces of perlite will be big enough that they won't fall out the bottom? I did get a bag of perlite too.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18949972 - 10/08/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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No holes on the bottom.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18950049 - 10/08/13 03:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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kitkit69 said: I just want to make sure, you drill holes on all 6 sides? Even the bottom? The pieces of perlite will be big enough that they won't fall out the bottom? I did get a bag of perlite too.
Yes, all 6 sides, even the bottom.
No the perlite is not going to fall thru the holes.
1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: PussyFart]
#18950205 - 10/08/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks, it's done.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18950370 - 10/08/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks good?
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18950467 - 10/08/13 04:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everything looks good except for the substrate touching the perlite.
You want it on a coaster of some sort...foil or something....not directly on the perlite.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18950570 - 10/08/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, done. Had to use foil. Don't have coasters.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18950606 - 10/08/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't tell but how many inches of perlite do you have? Also is your substrate fully colonized?
And, remember when you're misting to also mist the perlite depending on how wet/dry it is.
Also you may want just a little more elevation, especially if it's in a corner (can't tell by pic though).
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: jackalope9517]
#18951469 - 10/08/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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jackalope9517 said: I can't tell but how many inches of perlite do you have? Also is your substrate fully colonized?
3 inches of perlite. Is it supposed to be 4? Yes, it's fully colonized. It was from one of those pre put together growkits that wasn't working right. There were only a few shrooms growing from the sides. The vermiculite seemed to be packed too tight. But even after I removed some, the top covered over with mycelium but still no pins. Only a couple from the sides. I'm hoping if they're only going to grow from the sides this will give more room and more than just a couple will grow at a time. I won't be buying kits any more.
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: kitkit69]
#18955316 - 10/09/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice job on terrarium, just think of how many cakes it could support and you won't have to just wonder if it is in an ideal environment. The perlite should be kept saturated, just try and keep a very fine layer of water on the bottom so that it can be wicked up by the perlite, but not enough for anaerobic activity in one spot.
As long as the humidity in the room is not very high, you should always see condensation on the inside of the container. Fan it as many times as you can WHILE keeping the humidity high and you are good to go
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: j_db69]
#18955355 - 10/09/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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j_db69 said: The perlite should be kept saturated, just try and keep a very fine layer of water on the bottom so that it can be wicked up by the perlite
The bottom of his SGFC should be lined with holes, so there can never be water in the bottom.
Not that you would want any standing water in the bottom of a FC, but even if you did, the perlite is not going to "wick" it up without the proper airflow, which means proper holes, on all 6 sides, top and bottom.....which also means no standing water.
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j_db69 said: As long as the humidity in the room is not very high, you should always see condensation on the inside of the container.
WTF kind of bullshit is this?
Condensation is from a temperature differential, not humidity.
A SGFC should NEVER have condensation.
The inside air should be the same temp as the outside air.
The only water on the walls of a properly built SGFC is water you put there.
Some people should just not give advice.
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Edited by PussyFart (10/09/13 05:00 PM)
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: PussyFart]
#18955444 - 10/09/13 05:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said: Some people should just not give advice.
I tried to find a gif or emotion smiley to tell you how much I agree, but there is none. So:
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Re: Barely any mycelium after a month [Re: PussyFart]
#18958841 - 10/10/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:The bottom of his SGFC should be lined with holes, so there can never be water in the bottom.
I did put holes on all 6 sides. I'm wondering how I can keep the perlite moist without also soaking the cakes? You don't want to take them out just to mist the perlite, right? The perlite seems to be drying out quickly. The condensation in this pic you see is from me just misting them. Also, the cake on the right in the plastic container, it looks like the caps of the pins are turning a bit darker brown like they're going to abort. I'm wondering if I'm right and what could be wrong if so? The cake on the left is the one I originally started this thread about and was having a problem with. There was too much vermiculite in the container and when I dunked it it packed it down so no mycelium or pins would come up through anywhere except the sides. And it was only a few pins at a time. It seems to be doing better now and looks like it will put out a bit more.
Edit: I don't know why my text was bolded in this post.
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Edited by kitkit69 (10/10/13 11:18 AM)
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