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Aleon
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Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus?
#18958423 - 10/10/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Went out for a hike last week in Northern IL. FOund some of these orange polypores, possibly Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? It was crazy, even the mycelium on the inside of the wood was completely orange!
 
ALso found true turkey tail Trametes versicolor? Beautiful specimens.
 
Say hello to my baby girl! But is the mushrooms in the picture shrimp russula, Russula xerampelina or something else?

And finally are these "real" turykey tail (Trametes versicolor) or a related Trametes sp.
 
Thanks for any and all help with ID. I have put the true turkey tail and the orange polypore onto agar. Already starting to jump onto the agar in just 2 days.
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RiverDweller1



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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: Aleon]
#18958434 - 10/10/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i would call your last photos a Stereum species. Beautiful photos, daughter, and good ID's!
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Lhun
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: RiverDweller1]
#18959425 - 10/10/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nice pics! Good ID's too, but I don't think your Russula is a xerampelina. In my experience, the stem is nearly always flushed with colors similar to the cap. Not pure white as seen in your specimen. Can you recall if others in the area were blushing on the stems? How did it smell?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: Lhun]
#18959464 - 10/10/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think those Pyncnoporus are more properly classified in Trametes. Your first turkey tail pics are the real thing, the second group is Stereum.
Your Russula looks too small for xerampelina and is probably closer to R. emetica.
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18959689 - 10/10/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trametes cinnabarinus!!
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Aleon
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: bloodworm]
#18962771 - 10/11/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Awesome thanks for the responses everybody! After a little more research, it does appear that the russula is R. emetica, or at least not xerampelina.
I have heard this cinnibar polypore is fairly rare in this area, so i am attempting to clone it; i also want to see if the cultured mycelium is orange. Does anyone know if this species T. cinnibarinus is toxic or not, and if not, does it have any medicinal value? According to the Fungal Pharmacy book by Robert Rogers, it is a mushroom with medicinal effects, but i cant seem to find any reciprocating information online. In the book it says its: anti viral, bacterial, and fungal as well as some other claims. Any and all help greatly appreciated, as usual.
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: bloodworm]
#18962781 - 10/11/13 06:58 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I think those Pyncnoporus are more properly classified in Trametes.
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bloodworm said: Trametes cinnabarinus!! 
I did not know there was such a thing! good catch!
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18963028 - 10/11/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: I think those Pyncnoporus are more properly classified in Trametes.
From Justo & Hibbett's paper Pycnoporus forms a well supported clade of their own. It seems like one of those lump or split situations that are as much about philosophy as they are taxonomy. Their reasoning to lump is because it would be easier to make the morphology fit one big genus, the the five genera scenario seems equally valid from a phylogenetic perspective.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: TimmiT]
#18963071 - 10/11/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have talked to Justo about this and agree with him that its not really helpful to split up Trametes into a bunch of genera.
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TimmiT


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Re: Recent Hunt Pictures. Need ID on orange polypore; Pycnoporus cinnabarinus? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#18963128 - 10/11/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I avoid polypores most of the time so I don't really have an opinion on this other than a general lean toward splitting. From a field mycologist's point of view it makes sense to use the boundaries that correlate best with morphology, but that seems to happen less often these days.
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