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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: Rool Kat]
    #18955105 - 10/09/13 04:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No

So if everyone sat in the same restaurant only ordering free tap water the whole day they would not get thrown out?

But as fascinating as those absurd flights of fantasy might be for you to conceptualize, neither have any relevance to this thread and so I don't intend to discuss either question.

You thought you had a point in your reply to the underlined in Withinity's quote which didn't actually make sense. It was your lack of reading comprehension I am pointing out.


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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18955163 - 10/09/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Assumptions and context.

You make far too many of the former, but your total lack of understanding of the later puts you at a significant disadvantage. 

My condolences, sir.


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Invisibleliquidlounge

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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: Rool Kat]
    #18955200 - 10/09/13 04:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If X writes YYY. Z comprehends this as YYP, Z mess up like most do in this society because they do not pay attention. That is the process of dumbing down ourselves.


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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: Rool Kat]
    #18957333 - 10/09/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Greetings Mr Roolkat & Liquidlounge.

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RoolKat said:

Not everyone gets addicted to everything.

I don't get addicted to anything I've used long term, even though the substances are among those with the highest potential for addiction.

I was a 3-pack a day smoker for several years before quitting, never missed it in any way.

I was a serious abuser of alcohol for even more years, from age 22 until age 39 when I got a wake-up call, courtesy of a DUI.




I can kinda related to that after being a chain smoker of 5 years straight, although i don't miss it now it would be Denial to say i was not an addict during those 5 years.


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RoolKat said:
Quitting the morphine was a non-event, at least as far as any craving for it; it was a huge event in the pain and agony field though.  Even so, there was a desire for the pain to end, but not a desire to have more morphine.




IMO this is the source of most addiction it always stems from inside the individual the substance just becomes a medium to escape pain, depression, anxiety etc they all root from the same place anyway. I cant relate to being in such physical pain that i would need morphine to cure it though the concept rings the same tone to me as a depressed person using weed or alcohol to numb out and forget would be depression.

I maintain the idea that a well balanced individual both in body and mind would be much less prone to addiction and if they did become addicted to pain relieving substance I would question how balanced they were to begin with. It should be noted i'm talking more within the context of emotional turmoil which seems to be a big part of the human condition , our society turns to drugs for relief on a major scale.

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RoolKat said:
And I've NEVER had anyone at any restaurant complain or react to the fact that I drink water and not a revenue-producing beverage like coffee.




In this case all i can say is Good for you because i have personally been kicked out of a 'Cafe'(no plural)for this reason. Besides that in my experience you get looked at like a weirdo , people even offer to buy you coffee and show some kind of blank/confused look on their face when you explain that you are actually drinking water by choice.


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Liquidlounge said:
So if everyone sat in the same restaurant only ordering free tap water the whole day they would not get thrown out?




Fucking oath they would get thrown out. Though from the business perspective you would never want/allow that to happen , how are you gonna pay the rent with all your customers draining your water bill constantly whilst giving nothing back:lol:


Coffee is a Multi-Billion dollar industry but really its just a subsection of Caffeine! So consider how well and how often people keep coming back to other Caffinated products such as Coca Cola and Energy drinks. 

I cant help but wondering about the addictive potential of Caffeine when taking all these industries into consideration.

I agree its not so black and white , there is another side to it wherein individuals are able to maintain the use of substances in moderation though for the most part i don't think we do. Don't get me wrong there are always exceptions to every rule but bringing into reference what i said above , we are generally unbalanced for the most part which in turn leads to a 'need' for some kind of consumption. This is where i tie it back to all the Multi-billion dollar industries profiting off that 'need'. Its not so much that substances are addictive rather than we are bunch of addicts and in this society its highly encouraged IMO.


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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: WScott]
    #18957923 - 10/10/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll drink a jar of coffee and still not conversate.

semi-pragmatic drug, don't really become social of it :shrug:


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Re: Coffee and Conversation [Re: Withinity]
    #18958597 - 10/10/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Withinity said:
Greetings Mr Roolkat & Liquidlounge.

Quote:

RoolKat said:

Not everyone gets addicted to everything.

I don't get addicted to anything I've used long term, even though the substances are among those with the highest potential for addiction.

I was a 3-pack a day smoker for several years before quitting, never missed it in any way.

I was a serious abuser of alcohol for even more years, from age 22 until age 39 when I got a wake-up call, courtesy of a DUI.




I can kinda related to that after being a chain smoker of 5 years straight, although i don't miss it now it would be Denial to say i was not an addict during those 5 years.


Quote:

RoolKat said:
Quitting the morphine was a non-event, at least as far as any craving for it; it was a huge event in the pain and agony field though.  Even so, there was a desire for the pain to end, but not a desire to have more morphine.




IMO this is the source of most addiction it always stems from inside the individual the substance just becomes a medium to escape pain, depression, anxiety etc they all root from the same place anyway. I cant relate to being in such physical pain that i would need morphine to cure it though the concept rings the same tone to me as a depressed person using weed or alcohol to numb out and forget would be depression.

I maintain the idea that a well balanced individual both in body and mind would be much less prone to addiction and if they did become addicted to pain relieving substance I would question how balanced they were to begin with. It should be noted i'm talking more within the context of emotional turmoil which seems to be a big part of the human condition , our society turns to drugs for relief on a major scale.

Quote:

RoolKat said:
And I've NEVER had anyone at any restaurant complain or react to the fact that I drink water and not a revenue-producing beverage like coffee.




In this case all i can say is Good for you because i have personally been kicked out of a 'Cafe'(no plural)for this reason. Besides that in my experience you get looked at like a weirdo , people even offer to buy you coffee and show some kind of blank/confused look on their face when you explain that you are actually drinking water by choice.


Quote:

Liquidlounge said:
So if everyone sat in the same restaurant only ordering free tap water the whole day they would not get thrown out?




Fucking oath they would get thrown out. Though from the business perspective you would never want/allow that to happen , how are you gonna pay the rent with all your customers draining your water bill constantly whilst giving nothing back:lol:


Coffee is a Multi-Billion dollar industry but really its just a subsection of Caffeine! So consider how well and how often people keep coming back to other Caffinated products such as Coca Cola and Energy drinks. 

I cant help but wondering about the addictive potential of Caffeine when taking all these industries into consideration.

I agree its not so black and white , there is another side to it wherein individuals are able to maintain the use of substances in moderation though for the most part i don't think we do. Don't get me wrong there are always exceptions to every rule but bringing into reference what i said above , we are generally unbalanced for the most part which in turn leads to a 'need' for some kind of consumption. This is where i tie it back to all the Multi-billion dollar industries profiting off that 'need'. Its not so much that substances are addictive rather than we are bunch of addicts and in this society its highly encouraged IMO.




And greetings to you, Withiniity, and thanks for a non-confrontational response!

I think the key to addiction is to recognize that addiction is the result of changes in the addicted person's body-chemistry that produce a physical dependence.  That dependence results in adverse impacts on the body if the body does not get the substance to which it is addicted.  Some persons undergo these changes and
some (with me being one of these) do not undergo them.

And I was absolutely not talking about taking substances in moderation in my own case.  I would frequently drink to the point that when I woke up the next day, I had utterly no idea where I had been for the last hour of two of the night before, or where I had been. 

In Germany where I was stationed at the time ('64) I once lost my car for 6 weeks, Is even reported it as "Stolen," since I had looked for it all that time.

Then, one day as I was riding with a buddy, going out to pick up a blind date, we turned up a side street, and there, buried under 6 weeks of accumulated leaves and bird shit, sat my car, neatly parked and locked, and undisturbed.

I also once broke the stone out of my class-ring.  Crawling to my '66 Corvette...

And perhaps I was too brief in my comments about not being asked to leave if I didn't order coffee (or other revenue producing menu item) in lieu of just water.  I just reread my original remark and see that I did not specifically mention that I ordered food.  In fact, I always order food when I go to a restaurant and my bill is always at least $10, and I never tip less than 20%. 

In my old age, unless the service is so BAD that it's either "slap the shit out of the wait-person" to get their attention or leave an insultingly small tip, I tip a min of $2 on a bill less than $10, or 20%.  That's because many, if not most restaurants pay waitstaff quite a bit less that minimum wage so tips become part of basic compensation.  And that total compensation is so small that many folks make more from unemployment.  I think it's unethical, but the bottom line is I use the service, I expect to pay a fair price for it. 

So, I get that you are talking about a different situation, and assume that you mean you drink water and do not order any other menu items.  I grant you that such behavior is unwelcome anywhere, and your original statement, in the context, is accurate and applies universally.  Sorry for the confusion, my bad.

Nice chatting with you,

Bart


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