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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: g00ru]
#18965971 - 10/11/13 09:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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you are god we all are everything is you create your own youniverse you are that i am ...geometry of divinity
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: ro-deez]
#18966075 - 10/11/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ro-deez said: you are god we all are everything is you create your own youniverse you are that i am ...geometry of divinity
The most ironic thing about "atheists" is they need to have a concept of God... but then reject it. 
Obviously if you allow some crusty old faggot (who's only aim in life is to get rich selling books to halfwits) define/strawman God for you, it's easy to reject.
"God is a magical man that sits in the sky and created the universe 5000 years ago." - Atheist. "That's not what God means to me, are you sure?" - Me. "Yes. And I know he doesn't exist" - Atheist.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Dawks]
#18966084 - 10/11/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i guess its subjective we are divine beings nonetheless
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Dawks] 1
#18966087 - 10/11/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i remember i used to call myself an atheist. so embarrassing.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: ro-deez]
#18966091 - 10/11/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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how am i a atheist if i believe in god ... i am not the false labels you use to define people ,. I AM
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: zZZz] 1
#18966092 - 10/11/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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zZZz said: i remember i used to call myself an atheist. so embarrassing. 
I think many higher thinkers go though the phase, I think it's a natural part of development. Some people get stuck there though
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Dawks]
#18966416 - 10/11/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dawks said:
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zZZz said: i remember i used to call myself an atheist. so embarrassing. 
I think many higher thinkers go though the phase, I think it's a natural part of development. Some people get stuck there though 
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Dawks] 2
#18967232 - 10/12/13 05:35 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Dawks said:
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ro-deez said: you are god we all are everything is you create your own youniverse you are that i am ...geometry of divinity
The most ironic thing about "atheists" is they need to have a concept of God... but then reject it. 
Obviously if you allow some crusty old faggot (who's only aim in life is to get rich selling books to halfwits) define/strawman God for you, it's easy to reject.
"God is a magical man that sits in the sky and created the universe 5000 years ago." - Atheist. "That's not what God means to me, are you sure?" - Me. "Yes. And I know he doesn't exist" - Atheist.
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The true half wits are the people who tithe 10% of their income to a make believe character from the best selling piece of fiction ever written - the Bible.
And, atheists don't say the god doesn't exist.
I don't understand why believers get so upset with atheists. Shouldn't you just be satisfied knowing your vain, vindictive psychopath of a god will punish us for eternity?
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: koods]
#18967267 - 10/12/13 05:57 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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koods, you'd be surprised.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: zZZz]
#18967433 - 10/12/13 07:40 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The way i define god(god is simply love and the postiive energies that promote humanity) might not be right to some people, but fuck it makes me so happy to see spirituality the way i do, it generally just makes me depressed to see atheist's with such a pessimistic view, especially when they insist people should just give up on spiritual questions. If nothing else, i feel people should just look more into what they feel and know is right, and leave it at that.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] 2
#18967636 - 10/12/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just dislike the intellectual dishonesty of the new wave of atheists. religion is both a major force for good and bad in the world. it has never, will never be so cut and dry an issue as some may try to claim. the new atheists tend to only look at religion's flaws and gloss over the rest. so really, the new atheist counter argument is a strawman because they're arguing against a partial and therefore distorted picture of what's really going on. believe or don't, i really don't care. but do us all a favor and try not to base your beliefs on bullshit and then cram those beliefs down everyone's throat who doesn't think like you do. religious tolerance does not mean religious agreement. live and let live.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy] 1
#18967722 - 10/12/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wish people who are convinced they know what atheists think would actually read what they write. I don't know any atheist that says religion only does bad things. Atheists freely admit that religious organizations do good deeds all the time. What we would say is that people could do good deeds without being forced to do so to gain favor with the dictator in the sky.
And even if your premise were true, why is the job of an atheist to argue the good that religion does? No doubt, in a debate, the other side is spending most of their time arguing such things.
And I gotta say this comment is so rich with a lack of self-awareness I lolled big time:
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: millzy]
#18967748 - 10/12/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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millzy said: i just dislike the intellectual dishonesty of the new wave of atheists. religion is both a major force for good and bad in the world. it has never, will never be so cut and dry an issue as some may try to claim. the new atheists tend to only look at religion's flaws and gloss over the rest. so really, the new atheist counter argument is a strawman because they're arguing against a partial and therefore distorted picture of what's really going on. believe or don't, i really don't care. but do us all a favor and try not to base your beliefs on bullshit and then cram those beliefs down everyone's throat who doesn't think like you do. religious tolerance does not mean religious agreement. live and let live.
"live and let live."
I agree, yet who tries to influence others and their lifestyles more than anyone else? Religious people.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: koods]
#18967756 - 10/12/13 10:20 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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i've said this to you before, and i'll say it again: how are you so convinced you know what all self-professed atheists think/believe?
"I don't know any atheist that says religion only does bad things." You may not know any, but I do know a few. /point
"Atheists freely admit that religious organizations do good deeds all the time." You know all of them, to make this judgement? A claim without evidence is no claim at all.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18967774 - 10/12/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: i've said this to you before, and i'll say it again: how are you so convinced you know what all self-professed atheists think/believe?
"I don't know any atheist that says religion only does bad things." You may not know any, but I do know a few. /point
"Atheists freely admit that religious organizations do good deeds all the time." You know all of them, to make this judgement? A claim without evidence is no claim at all. 
I'm talking about the ones he's talking about. Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, etc...
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: koods]
#18967829 - 10/12/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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fair enough, i haven't read any books by a major atheist author, and don't really plan to--it's a lot to read on a topic that doesn't particularly interest me. perhaps you could summarize some of these points?
i guess my upbringing was different from most people--i was raised in an environment with neutral emphasis on religion--i had no real notion of god through my childhood and teenage years--eventually i arrived at a spirituality, but i still do not subscribe to any formal belief system, be they traditional or new age.
my first real colouring experience within the whole theist/atheist spectrum was when a few friends adopted a strong atheism, and basically told me i was a horrible person--lumping me in with islamic fundamentalists and child molesting priests
since then, i've basically been very critical of any notion suggesting that adopting atheism necessarily equates with higher reason and logic--there are some who are, frankly, no better than proselytizing religious folks--and perhaps worse, due to the inherent hypocrisy
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#18967859 - 10/12/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, a lot of people reject religion without giving much thought to it. When people reject anything, they tend to reject it completely, so it is understandable that, unless you actually think about what you are doing seriously, you won't find any good in what you've rejected.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
#18967875 - 10/12/13 11:02 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: fair enough, i haven't read any books by a major atheist author, and don't really plan to--it's a lot to read on a topic that doesn't particularly interest me. perhaps you could summarize some of these points?
i guess my upbringing was different from most people--i was raised in an environment with neutral emphasis on religion--i had no real notion of god through my childhood and teenage years--eventually i arrived at a spirituality, but i still do not subscribe to any formal belief system, be they traditional or new age.
my first real colouring experience within the whole theist/atheist spectrum was when a few friends adopted a strong atheism, and basically told me i was a horrible person--lumping me in with islamic fundamentalists and child molesting priests
since then, i've basically been very critical of any notion suggesting that adopting atheism necessarily equates with higher reason and logic--there are some who are, frankly, no better than proselytizing religious folks--and perhaps worse, due to the inherent hypocrisy
"few friends..basically told me i was a horrible person"
Those friends just basically hate religion and religious people who happen to be atheists, that doesn't establish a correlation.
"no better than proselytizing religious folks--and perhaps worse, due to the inherent hypocrisy"
No doubt about that fact, many "free thinking" liberals can be some of the most intolerant people you will ever meet, they act in the complete opposite of their own belief system, hypocrisy at its finest.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: Dawks]
#18967950 - 10/12/13 11:25 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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ro-deez said: you are god we all are everything is you create your own youniverse you are that i am ...geometry of divinity
The most ironic thing about "atheists" is they need to have a concept of God... but then reject it. 
Obviously if you allow some crusty old faggot (who's only aim in life is to get rich selling books to halfwits) define/strawman God for you, it's easy to reject.
"God is a magical man that sits in the sky and created the universe 5000 years ago." - Atheist. "That's not what God means to me, are you sure?" - Me. "Yes. And I know he doesn't exist" - Atheist.
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This. I understand how some one wouldn't believe in God based upon how they are raised by their parents, it's okay. But to be so ignorant as to not consider how other people were raised and how they do believe in God is just foolish.
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Re: 10,000 if you can provide proof of god or supernatural? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
#18967963 - 10/12/13 11:29 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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What gets me about the atheists is how they love comparing every definition of God of mine as "a flying spaghetti monster".
When were we ever talking about spaghetti? If you held up proof of God to an atheist he would say "well uhmm didn't you hear everythings a mass hallucination sooo uhhh im not even seeing this right now...I WIN AHAHAHAH"
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