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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Shroomism]
    #18956084 - 10/09/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There's also some method that's called "the soup". Idk I think it was maybe the Gulf Cartel leader or one of the others who supposedly favored it as a way to torture snitches or anybody who didn't pay up.

They would put the guy in a big ass bin/barrel and boil him alive. And sit and watch and stuff.

Yikes.

I'm sure pretty much anything we could think of they've at least tried once.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Niffla]
    #18956103 - 10/09/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

that's an old one. they adopted the style from old Chinese and Roman Emperors.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: akira_akuma]
    #18956182 - 10/09/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

since when did america give a fuck what mexico thinks?

why don't they just snipe him


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Niffla]
    #18956271 - 10/09/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
It's no joke. They murder a lot of fucking people




From DPA: "The failed drug war has wreaked havoc throughout Latin America. In Mexico, the war on drugs has caused an estimated 70,000 deaths, 25,000 disappearances and over 250,000 internally displaced people since 2006."


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But it's just mind blowing when you think about it. Guzman shows up on freaking Forbes for fuck's sake.




Guzman seems to be in the business of dirty politics as much as he is the drug trade.  Those bastards are always covered in bloody money.  Speaking of drug lords, I was impressed finding out (through Forbes' reporting) that The Silk Road's "revenue [hit] an annual run-rate of $30 million to $45 million by FORBES’ estimate" in roughly two years of business.  The criminal complaints filed by the US government in the case against him claim "$1.2 billion in revenue since its creation, [generating] $80 million commissions for its operator or operators." With those numbers and its rate of growth, that 29 year old Ross Ulbright who is being charged as its owner, would likely have surpassed even Guzman's riches if he'd have been able to keep going.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: NWlight]
    #18956282 - 10/09/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

He's already escaped from prison twice. What is the USA going to incarcerate him too?


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Magicman69]
    #18956383 - 10/09/13 08:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Mexico, the country we really need to go to war with.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Everlong] * 1
    #18956421 - 10/09/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What's the reward money for Guzman looking like these days? I could use the cash. We can get a small group of pubbers and head to Mexico. I don't have any weapons though besides a kitchen knife so maybe we can talk a mod into coming down with us and then we can threaten them with some shroomery 30 day bans or something.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #18957608 - 10/10/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When you create a black market by making something illegal that you can't effectively enforce, then the blame for the ills of black market trade falls squarely on those who created the law instead of those who break it.
The idiocy of it all is that all the money and manpower spent to enforce the law fails so often that we have to resort to offering reward money to citizens to do the job for us.
There's failure written all over it.


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: abltsandwich]
    #18957619 - 10/10/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Just looked it up.

USA offering 5 million for El Chapo.

Mexico is offering 30 mil in pesos


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: Niffla]
    #18957624 - 10/10/13 01:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Mexican Military refused to arrest Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman



MEXICO. - The United States offered to capture the Mexican drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman in a 15 minute operation that would be "simple and quick", but the Mexican military opposed to it, said the journalist Jesus Esquivel to Efe.

"The U.S. intelligence services located him, they know where he was and they were ready to catch him," said Esquivel, who currently is presenting his book "La DEA en Mexico" (The DEA in Mexico).

The Mexican president Felipe Calderon (2006-2012) wanted the United States to catch the leader of the Sinaloa cartel, but the Army and Navy "disagreed and stopped the operation", because in this plan only U.S. personnel would be involved, said Esquivel.

Jose Baeza, a member of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) who was interviewed by Esquivel, said that they gave all the information to the Mexican Government twice to catch el Chapo, but in both occasions he managed to escape on ATVs in the mountains.

He said the drug lord remains free thanks to the protection he receives from several politicians who are at various levels of government, but refrained from mentioning their names.

"The day that they arrest certain politicians, they will then discover many truths about the mysteries of “El Chapo” and the Sinaloa cartel," said the agent.

The Mexican Government said that they know where Guzman Loera is at, due to the information they have received from the DEA and other agencies, and also from their own information systems, military and civilians. They have a list of all of his assets.

The correspondent of the Mexican magazine Proceso in Washington reveals in his book that the Pentagon prepared a plan to catch "El Chapo", in an operation similar to that which led to the death of Osama Bin Laden.

According to Esquivel, "Washington has not discarded the plan" and will propose it to the current Mexican President, Enrique Peña Nieto, who took office on December 1, 2012.

"The capture of this drug lord- if Mexicans allow for it- would be as easy as taking candy from a baby" in an operation that would be "simple and quick", pointed out Esquivel.

This operation would be performed by three U.S. commandos trained in stealth operations in enemy territory and supported by high-tech three aircrafts remotely operated and armed with missiles.

According to the plan, military forces would enter the area by helicopter equipped with guns and two of the groups would be responsible for the main operation, while the third would cover their backs in case of retaliation by the cartel hitmen.

"In 10 or 15 minutes the two assault teams would catch the target" during an operation that would be run in real time from the Pentagon and even from the offices of the National Security Council in the White House.

The plan "will not involve the Mexican military and Mexican soldiers would only enter to observe the results."

U.S. troops would have to dress "in some sort of uniform belonging to the Mexican Federal Police," in order to "simulate Mexican participation" in the operation.

United States considers this mission a "priority," said the journalist, as Guzman heads the most powerful criminal organization in the world, according to the Treasury Department.





Why would they arrest the guy that gives them their paycheck?


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Re: Mexican military says thanks but no thanks to catching world's most powerful drug lord [Re: starfire_xes]
    #18957626 - 10/10/13 01:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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starfire_xes said:
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Niffla said:
Mexican Military refused to arrest Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman



MEXICO. - The United States offered to capture the Mexican drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman in a 15 minute operation that would be "simple and quick", but the Mexican military opposed to it, said the journalist Jesus Esquivel to Efe.

"The U.S. intelligence services located him, they know where he was and they were ready to catch him," said Esquivel, who currently is presenting his book "La DEA en Mexico" (The DEA in Mexico).

The Mexican president Felipe Calderon (2006-2012) wanted the United States to catch the leader of the Sinaloa cartel, but the Army and Navy "disagreed and stopped the operation", because in this plan only U.S. personnel would be involved, said Esquivel.

Jose Baeza, a member of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) who was interviewed by Esquivel, said that they gave all the information to the Mexican Government twice to catch el Chapo, but in both occasions he managed to escape on ATVs in the mountains.

He said the drug lord remains free thanks to the protection he receives from several politicians who are at various levels of government, but refrained from mentioning their names.

"The day that they arrest certain politicians, they will then discover many truths about the mysteries of “El Chapo” and the Sinaloa cartel," said the agent.

The Mexican Government said that they know where Guzman Loera is at, due to the information they have received from the DEA and other agencies, and also from their own information systems, military and civilians. They have a list of all of his assets.

The correspondent of the Mexican magazine Proceso in Washington reveals in his book that the Pentagon prepared a plan to catch "El Chapo", in an operation similar to that which led to the death of Osama Bin Laden.

According to Esquivel, "Washington has not discarded the plan" and will propose it to the current Mexican President, Enrique Peña Nieto, who took office on December 1, 2012.

"The capture of this drug lord- if Mexicans allow for it- would be as easy as taking candy from a baby" in an operation that would be "simple and quick", pointed out Esquivel.

This operation would be performed by three U.S. commandos trained in stealth operations in enemy territory and supported by high-tech three aircrafts remotely operated and armed with missiles.

According to the plan, military forces would enter the area by helicopter equipped with guns and two of the groups would be responsible for the main operation, while the third would cover their backs in case of retaliation by the cartel hitmen.

"In 10 or 15 minutes the two assault teams would catch the target" during an operation that would be run in real time from the Pentagon and even from the offices of the National Security Council in the White House.

The plan "will not involve the Mexican military and Mexican soldiers would only enter to observe the results."

U.S. troops would have to dress "in some sort of uniform belonging to the Mexican Federal Police," in order to "simulate Mexican participation" in the operation.

United States considers this mission a "priority," said the journalist, as Guzman heads the most powerful criminal organization in the world, according to the Treasury Department.





Why would they arrest the guy that gives them their paycheck?




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