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Edit: Is this a good idea for a first trip?
    #18956112 - 10/09/13 07:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am trying to gain as much information about shrooms as I can before my first grow using the PF tek, and I feel comfortable with just about everything.  My question is, if I ate 1 dry gram of Treasure Coast(TC) cubes that I will dry using the fan and desiccant method using the Lemon tek with key lime juice instead of lemon juice(more citrus), will it be a good dosage for my first trip ever?  What level do you think that I would reach? I am a 147 pound male.

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    eat 2 g's' wait an hour, and eat one more if needed/wanted.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Mockmanne]
    #18956207 - 10/09/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

1g fresh be of better choice.  lime, or lemon be good.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18956257 - 10/09/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Don't lemon tek your first dose.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18956331 - 10/09/13 08:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't lemon tek your first dose.





That doesn't make any sense. The lemon tek doesn't make the trip any more intense. It just speeds things up. Especially with a gram.

I would assume you would reach a level 1. Probably not a lot to expect.. I would up the dose around 1.5 - 2.5 for a comfortable yet little view inside of a trip.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18956338 - 10/09/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1g fresh be of better choice.  lime, or lemon be good.




That would be the equivalent of 0.1 grams dry.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18956361 - 10/09/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Lemon tekking affects different people in different ways.  The lemon tek usually comes on faster and is more intense for people.  I've seen some people lemon tek their first dose and didn't handle the abrupt shift very well.  The gradual comeup makes your first dose much more tolerable.  2g normal would be a better first dose.

OP should just do it and find out :shrug:


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18956368 - 10/09/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This is true.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18956658 - 10/09/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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1g fresh be of better choice.  lime, or lemon be good.




That would be the equivalent of 0.1 grams dry.




oops!  10g fresh.  good catch


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18956663 - 10/09/13 09:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

eat 'em fresh :grin: agree?


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18956738 - 10/09/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not any sort of chemist nor do I know the least bit about chemistry, but I have read on a few reliable sources that the lemon juice transfers the psilocybin into psilocin (or the other way around, not sure. whichever one is more psychoactive.)  The sources said that this intensifies the trip by 1.5-3x what it would have been without lemon tek-ing.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Mockmanne]
    #18956807 - 10/09/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mockmanne said:
I'm not any sort of chemist nor do I know the least bit about chemistry, but I have read on a few reliable sources that the lemon juice transfers the psilocybin into psilocin (or the other way around, not sure. whichever one is more psychoactive.)  The sources said that this intensifies the trip by 1.5-3x what it would have been without lemon tek-ing.




AFAIK the psilocybin being converted into psilocin makes it hit you all at once, rather than having a little convert during digestion, which releases it over a period of time. This increases the intensity but will shorten duration. This has been my experience. Think mainline with heroin vs drinking opium tea.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Mockmanne]
    #18957253 - 10/09/13 11:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Mockmanne said:
I'm not any sort of chemist nor do I know the least bit about chemistry, but I have read on a few reliable sources that the lemon juice transfers the psilocybin into psilocin (or the other way around, not sure. whichever one is more psychoactive.)  The sources said that this intensifies the trip by 1.5-3x what it would have been without lemon tek-ing.




i understand that the psilocybin, and psilocin, when fresh, will bind to the salts of the citrus that will aid towards getting more of P..&Psilocin digested into the blood at faster, heavier rate/weight to brain receptors.

correct if wrong?

found on dmt-nexus, 'benzyme' says, "yes, it's called acid-catalyzed dephosphorylation. in the gut, enzymes as well as stomach acid achieve this..
but by first converting all the psilocybin to psilocin, you bypass this, and psilocin is readily absorbed into the bloodstream. it passes the blood-brain barrier, and binds the raphe nuclei's 5HT receptors."


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #18958408 - 10/10/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

First

Lemon tek basically is just tea
Using a slightly acidic solution to solubilize the good stuff

Drinking tea avoids not having your digestive system break down the mushrooms and extract the good stuff... So you have quicker come on which might feel like it's more intense

Doesn't make any new psilocybin ...

1 gm dried is a pretty small dose... Possible you would be disappointed
1 gm fresh is below the amount needed to trip unless you could placebo effect as tripping

Strains don't matter for cubes... Cubes a cube... Growing conditions and natural variation in potency over shadow any differences in 'strains'

Just some Random thoughts... Don't mean to disturb anyone's urban legends but...


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: HarryL]
    #18958497 - 10/10/13 09:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Im thinking about the lemon tek on my next trip aswell,
with 6 g dried. It doesnt hit you stronger,
you just come up real quick?
The question is, if its really necessary.
I like the time after eating my shrooms,
im much more excited and enjoy the happyness about the effects to slowly kick in.
But ive read that it hit you 3 times stronger, like you drink 2g dried using the lemon tek and get the same effects as eating 6 g dried,
which would be great because i dont run out of shrooms so fast..


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: HarryL]
    #18958635 - 10/10/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

No one said lemon tek creates more psilo, but it does hit harder due to quicker absorption of the active due to the conversion. Lets try another analogy. If you sipped a bottle of wine over the course of an evening, you might catch a little buzz. But if you took that same bottle and slammed it in one go, you would probably feel pretty sloshed. Same idea with lemon tek. All the psilo hits at once rather than being released in small increments as its converted in the gut. That's why it hits faster but also hits harder IMO.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18958693 - 10/10/13 10:46 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think I may just eat 2g without lemon tek, and if needed I will eat 1g extra.  Is this a good idea? and if so, how long should I expect it to take to hit/peak? It will have been about 12 hours since my last meal when I ingest the 'shrooms.  I will eat something directly after i eat them to act as a "chaser".


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Mockmanne]
    #18958875 - 10/10/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't bother with the eating after as you don't know if your one of those people who get nausa from shrooms, and as mushrooms are for the most part indigestible that is a possibility. If I was you I would just do up 2-3grams in tea.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #18959025 - 10/10/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Redose around 45 minutes.  You'll know if you need it.

I would just eat em/drink the tea on an empty stomach.  Chaser isn't really helpful.


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18959082 - 10/10/13 12:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

my first ever shroom trip, I lemon tekked 2.6 grams and it was the best trip ever (best of any of my LSD trips and all my shroom trips)


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Re: first shroom trip dosage with lemon tek? [Re: juriics]
    #18959139 - 10/10/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

My only concern is that I will be at home with my parents, which could call me to their room and talk to me or tell me to go do something at any given time.  Amount of shrooms isn't a problem as I will be growing 20 rice cakes.


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