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Tips on tripping alone?
    #18956289 - 10/09/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Hey guys, just wanted some pointers for when you're tripping by yourself
Most of my friends don't do drugs anymore so if I'm ever going to try anything new it's most likely going to be by myself
I'm planning on eating some shrooms soon but what would be a recommended dosage for a beginner that is alone?
Also feel free to list any other things that would be pleasant for taking alone
Thanks in advance  :psychsplit:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18956306 - 10/09/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Most would advise their past selves to have only done an eighth. I say 4 grams, because going higher helps get you out the door, so you don't try to go back inside.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18956315 - 10/09/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Max 3g dose, hide your phone, prepare some good music (I use stereodose.com), and just be calm and let it happen.  I prefer dosing alone because I can do whatever I want (go outside, watch a nature documentary, whatever). Just make sure your head space is right before the trip and you'll be fine.

LSD is good alone as well.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18956323 - 10/09/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I also prefer psychedelics alone, provides more of a journey characteristic. Makes it easier to not freak out in my opinion.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Futuresight]
    #18956356 - 10/09/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with the posts above. Make sure that no body is going to bother for the entire day or night. Have your trip tools (music, note pad, toys of such, or anything that might interest you) ready before you consume.

The freedom of thoughts and actions during a solo trip is why I enjoy it more than with company. No worries at all. You can let the trip take you where it wants to "you". A very personal and beneficial trip in my experience.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18956367 - 10/09/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DeeBee said:
Max 3g dose, hide your phone, prepare some good music (I use stereodose.com), and just be calm and let it happen.  I prefer dosing alone because I can do whatever I want (go outside, watch a nature documentary, whatever). Just make sure your head space is right before the trip and you'll be fine.

LSD is good alone as well.



Yo don't just hide your phone. Like put it in a box in the trunk of your car. I thought Id be smart and take my battery out of my phone and put the two pieces in two separate places. Turns out drugs don't make you too retarded to put a battery back into a phone :inbred:

I had this like NEED to call a couple friends of mine and I ended up having this really funny conversation with a buddy about how when we started the new fall semester (first year of college just ended) we wouldn't be able to be friends anymore and that really sucked. It wasn't a sad conversation it was actually quite fun (I was in a "life is a ride and shit happens" kind of mood) but it would have been really awkward to have felt the need to call my dad or something

Idk, not really answering your question (ive never tripped alone) but the first time I tripped I realized the phone thing would be a future problem :lol:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: bloodsheen]
    #18956710 - 10/09/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

alone is the best on mushrooms! here is an importantant tip, if you listen to Pandora, go ahead and pay the 3.99 for commercial free listening, lol. its a bit awkward when your breaking through to your most vulnerable self and a ford f250 commercial comes on, not as awkward as you might expect, sometimes when your really deep, things like that don't phase you too much, but sometimes they do. and make sure that you feel like you know no one is going to be bothering you, that's the one persistant shitty feeling I have, is shit, if someone were to just walk in and im like this, makes me feel weird on the come up. lock the door, use headphones, once you peak and are comfortable with it. GO OUTSIDE!! the minute you get out there the expansiveness of the universe will blow your mind. but the most profound trips I had were curled up in a ball on my floor with headphones on, one time I really wish I had a piss bucket near me because I was getting so deep, going to the bathroom was the weirdest part of the trip. lol.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18956768 - 10/09/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Max 3g dose, hide your phone, prepare some good music (I use stereodose.com), and just be calm and let it happen.  I prefer dosing alone because I can do whatever I want (go outside, watch a nature documentary, whatever). Just make sure your head space is right before the trip and you'll be fine.



This.

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LSD is good alone as well.



Not this.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18956829 - 10/09/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How is LSD not good alone? I have a blast looking at nature by myself with music...


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18956852 - 10/09/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Things I've experimented with you might enjoy.
*Calm/dim kinda mellow lighting.  Soft light, nothing to hard on your eyes but you feel warm and at peace.

*Apply what truly speaks to you in terms of music you can flow with.  Solo piano melding with inspirational music tracks.  Pure orgasm of the mind(Bob Ross points to his head: Start out by believing here).

*Also if you can manage it and are into video games, can try something like mario.  Wii version is great with the color and happy gameplay.  Can't lose at it, just keep coming back to life(Walked around skyrim for hours picking flowers, seeing all the little npc children run by and the music melding together it was pure serenity and bliss, till the guard started getting on my case EVEN IN VIDEO GAMES THEY WONT GO AWAY, sunlight and the stream of colors and music in absolute harmony.  Cave exploration?  Well you know what they say, curiosity killed the cat.  When did this cat get in my room?).

*YOUR TRIPPING, remember? :awecid:

*Cheese is not only delicious but absolutely funny

*YOUR TRIPPING, remember? :awecid:

*Not recommending tripping at night but hey when you see that sun rise, enjoy


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: MeinDarkEye]
    #18956875 - 10/09/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed on not experimenting with anything even remotely dark. No hard rock, no house music, no techno, no dubstep. I like peaceful rock (Porcupine tree's lighter stuff is cool), anything with pianos as the basis, and generally light music. No fucking Pink Floyd or anything, you'd think itd be all "That generation practically invented tripping, they must have made the best music for it."

No! You will regret it for sure. My favorite music for trips is Celtic music, especially Loreena McKennitt. But you know, thats just what was in my personal collection.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: bloodsheen]
    #18956963 - 10/09/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I like to listen to Rush while tripping.  I have playlists.

I like to have no plan whatsoever, just free time.  It is rare for me.

Before you begin, do a few things:  a.  Be hungry, by at least four hours since you've eaten.  b.  Set out a couple Gatorades with the lids already cracked.  Then make yourself drink them no matter how weird it seems. 

Have good food laid out and ready for coming down.  You will feel hungry, having not eaten for some time.  Drink lots and eat for sure later.

If you can be outdoors somewhere in nature with no one to disturb you, that is most ideal.  Gaze at some tree trunks.  See if you can hear what the flowers and trees are telling you. 

Spend some time with your eyes open as above, but also with your eyes closed.  See where it takes you.  You can go on some amazing adventures.

I strongly advise tea for minimal stomach upset and maximum trip potency. 

I would do 3 grams in such a setting. 

Best of luck and enjoy yourself!


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Queen of Kings]
    #18957017 - 10/09/13 10:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

fast/eat very little before tripping... it's ok to eat a little bit.... but DONT eat much

4g mushroom chocolates (get a coffee grinder then 4g is the optimal dose IMO)

bed,pillows etc., progressive psytrance (got some in my journal you can try - sounds great on even a laptop speaker or mono speaker! you dont need headphones),lots of lights in room (makes it more pleasant)

houseplants, take a walk in nature, sit in nature too if possible  (on the comedown)


I usually avoid smoking weed/doing other drugs in my trips for the most pure trips, learn more that way

psytrance and nature is essential for any trip


let go of all thoughts, don't fear your own mind, look right at any fear that arises without fearing it

** 4g is if you want a real psychedelic experience, not just some simple mindfuck... but a journey into your mind
5g can be too intense IME, 4g seems optimal (did that one of my first times), but you make the dose decision yourself.... chocolates can sometimes be more potent
I would do 4g again my first time with chocolates personally, very nice trip, one of smy best shroom trips probably

** mushroom chocolates is my prefered way of eating them... no nausea,no taste.. so trips are always good , compared to eating them raw

lock doors, turn off phone, hide phone, be sure that you won't be disturbed by family/friends(will make your trip go bad if that happens)

make sure you got nothing to do next day... friday i.e. is a good day to trip, but only if you feel ready to trip... good life situation


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: solo11]
    #18957143 - 10/09/13 11:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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alone is the best on mushrooms! here is an importantant tip, if you listen to Pandora, go ahead and pay the 3.99 for commercial free listening, lol. its a bit awkward when your breaking through to your most vulnerable self and a ford f250 commercial comes on, not as awkward as you might expect, sometimes when your really deep, things like that don't phase you too much, but sometimes they do. and make sure that you feel like you know no one is going to be bothering you, that's the one persistant shitty feeling I have, is shit, if someone were to just walk in and im like this, makes me feel weird on the come up. lock the door, use headphones, once you peak and are comfortable with it. GO OUTSIDE!! the minute you get out there the expansiveness of the universe will blow your mind. but the most profound trips I had were curled up in a ball on my floor with headphones on, one time I really wish I had a piss bucket near me because I was getting so deep, going to the bathroom was the weirdest part of the trip. lol.





Absolutely this...I can accept it on mushies but it's still annoying.

Disassociated though?...definitely worth the 3.99 lol.



but yeah, tripping alone is the best for breaking through. Sure tripping with others is nice, but I feel like it brings you down slightly unless you're around someone whom you can meld your consciousness with. Tripping with others is a mixed bag.

Put on some deep music...I've had some epic trips with all 3 LOTR movie soundtracks.

or go with a movie if things are too intense. Nature documentary or a kid movie if you like that sort of thing. Tron Legacy is pretty epic on mushrooms...plenty of epic tripping movies, that really depends on what you like though.

Just search around the forums for suggestions.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18957371 - 10/09/13 11:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Psyches arent social drugs i find them to be easier alone... that way even if you do freak its just you acting crazy in a good way no one will judge you.. and theirs no trip factors... i find people to be weird when im tripping even people im close too :confused:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: MescalitoMagnality]
    #18957438 - 10/10/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I understand things are just distortions tripping but it's weird watching their faces morph and change...just get overwhelmed by a sense of oddness I have to quell. By yourself, unless you're into mirrors, you don't have this problem.

and you can do whatever the fuck you want. Feel like just chillin standing around for hours...go for it. I find sometimes people question my behavior tripping or want to do something else. Kinda kills my vibes sometimes.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Art of the Stone]
    #18957462 - 10/10/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

5 grams dry. Nice chill music, lots of nitrous, phone off, and plenty of fresh fruit for after feed :smile:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18957665 - 10/10/13 01:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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DeeBee said:
How is LSD not good alone? I have a blast looking at nature by myself with music...




Because its too long. If the trip goes south, its a long long time to be alone and shit-scared. Been there. Done that.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18957836 - 10/10/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dang, thanks for all the replies guys!
Should be an amazing experience :biggrin:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: iamerror73]
    #18957957 - 10/10/13 04:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Remember, don't follow the white light!

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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: akalais]
    #18958183 - 10/10/13 07:19 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

have ONE person you can call who knows you will be tripping. Obviously make sure its someone you trust and feel completely comfortable with the fact that he knows you are tripping. So if you do get lonely, freaked out, or excited and wanna tell the world... You have that one person you can call. You couldnt even put the name under 'Tripping' on your contacts list so you dont have much difficulty working your phone :smile:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: danlennon3]
    #18958574 - 10/10/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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have ONE person you can call who knows you will be tripping. Obviously make sure its someone you trust and feel completely comfortable with the fact that he knows you are tripping. So if you do get lonely, freaked out, or excited and wanna tell the world... You have that one person you can call. You couldnt even put the name under 'Tripping' on your contacts list so you dont have much difficulty working your phone :smile:




:whathesaid: Calling or texting a person you love (and of course knows you're tripping!) can pull you back to reality when shit gets too intense... If you wanna go deep, fine (do it! :thumbup: :wink:) but it's always good to have an assurance.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: HerrHase]
    #18958599 - 10/10/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes I like to trip with one other person, to have a sense of companionship, we might watch videos together, walk through a forest together, or might do our own thing knowing that there is someone one room over in the same situation!


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18959006 - 10/10/13 11:51 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Because its too long. If the trip goes south, its a long long time to be alone and shit-scared. Been there. Done that.



I've never had a bad trip :shrug:


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: DeeBee]
    #18959108 - 10/10/13 12:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Have fun and relax. go do something if youre up for it


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: themusicofzann]
    #18959311 - 10/10/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Does anyone here do ayahuasca alone?


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: CrimpJiggler]
    #18959436 - 10/10/13 01:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Does anyone here do ayahuasca alone?



Have before, didn't make the trip any more difficult, just felt lonely after I came down. I prefer to do that one with a close friend or sibling.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: Futuresight]
    #18960070 - 10/10/13 03:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm gonna stay true to my signature and give you some solid pointers from Terence McKenna here. These are all tried and true by yours truly and I've found them to have great efficacy. Here are some tips that specifically pertain to avoiding a bad trip, and how to deal with one and get it back on track if it does go left on you at some point:

The first pointer I'd have to recommend is one that can be useful in avoiding super heavy bad trips... granted, there's tons to be learned from bad trips and many experienced trippers find them to be the most beneficial trips of all, but the key word there is "experienced"... for somebody relatively new to psychedelia, a severe bad trip might do nothing more than forever turn that person off of psychedelics. To reduce your chances of being confronted with some nasty shit that you've buried in your subconscious and are trying not to face (though keep in mind if you stick with psychedelics you WILL have to deal with this at some point sooner or later; and it's likely not gonna be easy), I recommend eating the psychedelic (whatever it may be) and immediately after eating it sit and meditate in a quiet room until you begin to feel the effects. I don't mean meditate in the traditional sense of clearing your mind. Instead, try to focus on all the bad shit you've done in your life, how you've hurt people, how much of a jerk you are, etc. Even if you don't ordinarily feel that way, try to focus on it for the first 40mins-1hour (or however long) before you begin to feel the effects of the drug. I've found that if you really force yourself to examine what a douchebag you've been immediately after you eat the psychedelic, by the time the 40 minute or 1 hour mark rolls around and you begin feeling the effects, you'll be so sick of examining your character flaws and faults that it will be removed from your subconscious mind for a while and will not crop up at some point during the trip and cause the trip to take a major left turn.... This does have some minor potential to get the trip started on a heavy note, but I've found that if I force myself to confront that shit during the onset, I spare myself the cosmic ass whooping that might ensue later in the peak of the trip and cause a severe bad trip/panic.

Now let's say you find yourself in a bad trip and cannot get out of negative thought loops for whatever reason, here's what I recommend (and this is Terence McKenna 101): SING. Just sing. It can be anything you want, anything at all. Just begin to sing. It will feel awkward at first and your instinct will be to STOP singing because it feels weird; DO NOT quit. What your trying to do is find a certain tone, a certain vibration that resonates with the trip in a positive way... so if you start singing mary had a little lamb and it's doing nothing for you, start singing a different tune with different vibrations and tones, maybe some Jimi Hendrix. Eventually you will find a tone, vibration or note that just feels good when you make it. Once you find this sweet spot, keep imitating that tone or vibration, but experiment with directing it around and trying related tones that might jive with it. Once you can lock on to the right frequency, it will FEEL amazing and you'll notice the anxiety and negative thought loops have begun to recede... at this point, just keep at it. You can literally use sound like an oar to steer your trip back into calmer and more reassuring waters.

Note you don't have to be a musician or have any special affinity toward music for this to work; I couldn't be more tone deaf or musically naive but this technique has got me out of many a bad trips. Like I said, the key is to keep at it: you're tendency in the middle of a bad trip will be to try it for all of 10 seconds and if it doesn't begin to take the edge off or steer the trip into a better direction to just stop singing altogether... do NOT do this. Keep at it. If it doesn't work in the first few seconds, it's probably because you just haven't resonated with the right tone or vibration so just experiment with different tones. The tendency when caught in a bad trip is to curl up and look at the clock and think "how long has it been since I ingested this? How much longer is it gonna last?"... This is NOT the way you want to meet a bad trip. This will almost assuredly only make it worse and you're likely to experience extreme time dilation and think you'll never survive the next 8 hours until the effects begin to subside. Instead of curling up and trying to do the math on how much longer you're going to be tripping for, sit up straight, take big deep breaths, begin to force air into your lungs and redirect the energy flow of your body and SING. Once you hit that right vibration, you'll be on your way to much clearer waters and when you really lock onto the euphoric and ecstatic frequencies you'll be roaring like a lion in no time.

Curious if anybody else here has had any success with this technique? It's worked for me personally on many occasions, and I have introduced a few people to this idea and several people have told me this has worked for them as well. But like I said you really gotta stick to it, for the first minute or two it can feel slightly unnatural and your natural inclination will be to want to stop, but don't quit. Keep experimenting with sound and you will get it right at some point. I've even imitated the sound of an idling motorcycle outside at the neighbors house whilst having a bad trip and for some reason that sound just REALLY resonated with me and was ecstatic and euphoric when I attempted to imitate it (I don't know why, dont own a motorcycle or give a shit about them) and helped me get the trip back on a positive frequency in no time.... This is what the various indigenous shamanic cultures have understood for millenia, especially in the Amazon basin; sound is the tool with which you can steer psychedelic voyages. That's why icaros (magical songs) are so central to a shamans mojo-bag and in my personal opinion, why far less people freak out and think they're dying or have extreme negative bad trips in the Amazon... if the shaman sees a member of the ceremony is struggling or having a hard time, or getting caught up in some negative energy, he will begin to use different songs until one resonates with that person and steers their trip back onto a more positive track.


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Re: Tips on tripping alone? [Re: chutney]
    #18960440 - 10/10/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm gonna stay true to my signature and give you some solid pointers from Terence McKenna here. These are all tried and true by yours truly and I've found them to have great efficacy. Here are some tips that specifically pertain to avoiding a bad trip, and how to deal with one and get it back on track if it does go left on you at some point:

The first pointer I'd have to recommend is one that can be useful in avoiding super heavy bad trips... granted, there's tons to be learned from bad trips and many experienced trippers find them to be the most beneficial trips of all, but the key word there is "experienced"... for somebody relatively new to psychedelia, a severe bad trip might do nothing more than forever turn that person off of psychedelics. To reduce your chances of being confronted with some nasty shit that you've buried in your subconscious and are trying not to face (though keep in mind if you stick with psychedelics you WILL have to deal with this at some point sooner or later; and it's likely not gonna be easy), I recommend eating the psychedelic (whatever it may be) and immediately after eating it sit and meditate in a quiet room until you begin to feel the effects. I don't mean meditate in the traditional sense of clearing your mind. Instead, try to focus on all the bad shit you've done in your life, how you've hurt people, how much of a jerk you are, etc. Even if you don't ordinarily feel that way, try to focus on it for the first 40mins-1hour (or however long) before you begin to feel the effects of the drug. I've found that if you really force yourself to examine what a douchebag you've been immediately after you eat the psychedelic, by the time the 40 minute or 1 hour mark rolls around and you begin feeling the effects, you'll be so sick of examining your character flaws and faults that it will be removed from your subconscious mind for a while and will not crop up at some point during the trip and cause the trip to take a major left turn.... This does have some minor potential to get the trip started on a heavy note, but I've found that if I force myself to confront that shit during the onset, I spare myself the cosmic ass whooping that might ensue later in the peak of the trip and cause a severe bad trip/panic.

Now let's say you find yourself in a bad trip and cannot get out of negative thought loops for whatever reason, here's what I recommend (and this is Terence McKenna 101): SING. Just sing. It can be anything you want, anything at all. Just begin to sing. It will feel awkward at first and your instinct will be to STOP singing because it feels weird; DO NOT quit. What your trying to do is find a certain tone, a certain vibration that resonates with the trip in a positive way... so if you start singing mary had a little lamb and it's doing nothing for you, start singing a different tune with different vibrations and tones, maybe some Jimi Hendrix. Eventually you will find a tone, vibration or note that just feels good when you make it. Once you find this sweet spot, keep imitating that tone or vibration, but experiment with directing it around and trying related tones that might jive with it. Once you can lock on to the right frequency, it will FEEL amazing and you'll notice the anxiety and negative thought loops have begun to recede... at this point, just keep at it. You can literally use sound like an oar to steer your trip back into calmer and more reassuring waters.

Note you don't have to be a musician or have any special affinity toward music for this to work; I couldn't be more tone deaf or musically naive but this technique has got me out of many a bad trips. Like I said, the key is to keep at it: you're tendency in the middle of a bad trip will be to try it for all of 10 seconds and if it doesn't begin to take the edge off or steer the trip into a better direction to just stop singing altogether... do NOT do this. Keep at it. If it doesn't work in the first few seconds, it's probably because you just haven't resonated with the right tone or vibration so just experiment with different tones. The tendency when caught in a bad trip is to curl up and look at the clock and think "how long has it been since I ingested this? How much longer is it gonna last?"... This is NOT the way you want to meet a bad trip. This will almost assuredly only make it worse and you're likely to experience extreme time dilation and think you'll never survive the next 8 hours until the effects begin to subside. Instead of curling up and trying to do the math on how much longer you're going to be tripping for, sit up straight, take big deep breaths, begin to force air into your lungs and redirect the energy flow of your body and SING. Once you hit that right vibration, you'll be on your way to much clearer waters and when you really lock onto the euphoric and ecstatic frequencies you'll be roaring like a lion in no time.

Curious if anybody else here has had any success with this technique? It's worked for me personally on many occasions, and I have introduced a few people to this idea and several people have told me this has worked for them as well. But like I said you really gotta stick to it, for the first minute or two it can feel slightly unnatural and your natural inclination will be to want to stop, but don't quit. Keep experimenting with sound and you will get it right at some point. I've even imitated the sound of an idling motorcycle outside at the neighbors house whilst having a bad trip and for some reason that sound just REALLY resonated with me and was ecstatic and euphoric when I attempted to imitate it (I don't know why, dont own a motorcycle or give a shit about them) and helped me get the trip back on a positive frequency in no time.... This is what the various indigenous shamanic cultures have understood for millenia, especially in the Amazon basin; sound is the tool with which you can steer psychedelic voyages. That's why icaros (magical songs) are so central to a shamans mojo-bag and in my personal opinion, why far less people freak out and think they're dying or have extreme negative bad trips in the Amazon... if the shaman sees a member of the ceremony is struggling or having a hard time, or getting caught up in some negative energy, he will begin to use different songs until one resonates with that person and steers their trip back onto a more positive track.




Very insightful, thanks for the information  :tongue2:


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