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OfflineIeatShroomz
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ID REQ Panther Amanita?
    #18956115 - 10/09/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



Habitat: Center of trail under pine and Douglas firs

Gills: White and close together

Stem: about an inch or an inch and a half white thick with ring close to cap remnants of a veil 

Cap: Light Brown almost gold with white spots rounded button shaped flat with age

General location: Washington State on the peninsula

Im hoping this is A. Pantherina  but Ive never found one befor and Ive heard of people getting poisoned from misidentifying these so Im just being carful. If you could also give me some info on this shroom or tell me where to get it that would be awesome thanks in advance.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956146 - 10/09/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think A. pantherina has a stalk that is a little more brown. bump


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18956158 - 10/09/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Damn thanks for the reply bro


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18956162 - 10/09/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think you're right ganzig... it looks a little off to be a.pantherina... could just be me tho? :smile:


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956163 - 10/09/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Well, I can see a little brown on the stem. It could be. I know next to nothing
about most mushrooms especially Amanita.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18956165 - 10/09/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It could be if you could get a pic of the base that would be very helpful


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Ganzig]
    #18956184 - 10/09/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Actually I think it might be a.pantherina... stem is white becoming tannish with age and has one, sometimes two "hoops" or concentric rings on the base....t.I.? And they look to be there at the base...hard to tell tho


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Eddeee]
    #18956199 - 10/09/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)



I hope this is what you needed for the base pic


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956240 - 10/09/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It looks pretty close to A.pantherina to me.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956245 - 10/09/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As with so many Amanita species and psudospecies, one can not directly apply the description for Amanita pantherina to the North American material sharing that name.

The species, in all likelihood, does not occur here, and what we have, while similar, can not be expected to follow european rules.

With that said, this begins to meet the psudo - A. pantherina test. Can I presume the discoloration on the stipe is in actuality yellowish bruising?


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18956256 - 10/09/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes it will bruise yellow and some times not according to Mushroom Expert.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18956258 - 10/09/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ya it looks like yellow or tan bruising


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18956333 - 10/09/13 08:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This distinction (one of more than one) is that in the classical A. pantherina, which we don't have here, the stipe from the base will age brown or grey, but the flesh will not as desicribed bruise when injured.

Our pantherina like species will bruise yellow, even if like so many bruising mushrooms it does not do so with complete reliability.

These are two very different descriptions, as comes to make sense when one considers that they are actually not the same species.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18956376 - 10/09/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Dude your obviously very intelligent but Im not lol Im very simple so is it A. Pantherina or no


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956403 - 10/09/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There is not likely any A. pantherina in the United States. What is here, and goes by that name is almost close enough.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18956415 - 10/09/13 08:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

O I get what your sayin so do you know what it is? Is it some kind of Amanita?


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956422 - 10/09/13 08:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's some kind of Amanita. It's almost the same thing as Amanita pantherina, and that's very nearly as close as you're likely to get.


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Re: ID REQ Panther Amanita? [Re: canid]
    #18956441 - 10/09/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Ok cool thanks bro srry for bein so slow lol


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