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canid
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rev0kadavur said: requisite structures for which?
For both.
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They also contain all the requisite structures for Persicina.
The taxonomy features for the 2 are nearly identical.
Naturally, they are only slighty distinct.
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Persicina's veil often collapses onto its stipe, just like in the picture.
This is a good point. It is entirely likely you are right.
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rev0kadavur
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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: canid]
#18957198 - 10/09/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Either way, these are really beautiful.. i have never seen any that are this shade of orange, consistently through the cap... I have been searching to find a comparable observation, but I have yet to find any colored quite like this... Persicina Observations come the closest.
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jet li
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So you're in California, then... Is this the first description from CA, USA of A. muscaria var persicina?
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Demonic_Chronic
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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: jet li]
#18957304 - 10/09/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im from the midwest U.S, North west indiana/North east illinois to be specific. All were found under pine trees. Just got back from a hunt and literally got 50+lbs and barely made a dent in the amount growing, all are yellow to light/medium orange caps. I can post pics of the hunt, some are a bit crushed due to the weight of them in the bag.
My main concern is do these contain amatoxins? or are they the ibotenic acid/muscinol variety.
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Demonic_Chronic
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Also when picking this last amount I noticed the veil was collapsed and fall to the stipe if that helps any.
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Edited by Demonic_Chronic (10/09/13 11:45 PM)
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jet li
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Oh... Be interesting if they turn an irish skintone, did you see any around those with a cup shaped pileus and pinker tones.
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jet li said: So you're in California, then... Is this the first description from CA, USA of A. muscaria var persicina?
Im in CA, I have never personally seen persicina, I have just read a lot about Amanitas.
We have a variety of Muscarias here, but not Persicina that I am aware of.
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Demonic_Chronic said: Im from the midwest U.S, North west indiana/North east illinois to be specific. All were found under pine trees. Just got back from a hunt and literally got 50+lbs and barely made a dent in the amount growing, all are yellow to light/medium orange caps. I can post pics of the hunt, some are a bit crushed due to the weight of them in the bag.
My main concern is do these contain amatoxins? or are they the ibotenic acid/muscinol variety.
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Totally thought you were in Europe because of the Normandy Loc. Ok, well that makes a difference... Kinda... You are in Guessowii Territory, but there is a chance that Persicina is around your parts too.... Both are found under pine.
And its entirely possible that your encountering more than just one variety, maybe take pictures just because its interesting... if you notice any particular differences between them, snap those...
I am curious to see a cross section of one of those orange ones!
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jet li
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Oh oops sorry I got confuseded. LOLOL. don't mind me. Yeah that is probably reasonable to ID it as such, but would be more interested in seeing more mature, because the largest in this group is hugemongous and I would have hope to see it more maturely shaped. What an enourmous Amanita that is!
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rev0kadavur
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Amatoxins are unlikely, unless they are a new Amanita!
You have Muscaria, regardless of Variation.
Likely Guessowii or even possibly Persicina.
Would love to see nice cross section and up-skirt pic 
Pics from the hunt would be awesome to see too!
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Sorry been cuttin caps from stems for drying. Will take some pics in a bit. :-D
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