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Amanita muscaria? Pics inside
    #18956102 - 10/09/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I believe I found some Muscaria, specifically var. formosa due to the more orange cap. I know for a fact there amanitas, I will post a pic ASAP. in the mean time can someone post a few diff var. of the Muscaria? plz and thanks, will post a pick of my findings soon. Gotta homework deadline to meet first.

Pics are a few posts down.

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956149 - 10/09/13 07:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)



I live in Washington State and these are my var. formosa


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956157 - 10/09/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Google posted some pics of different muscaria just a minute ago. What are the chances?




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Can't wait to see your pics.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: IeatShroomz]
    #18956175 - 10/09/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Her is some var.guessowwii.



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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
    #18956339 - 10/09/13 08:30 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

im about to upload the pics of my few finds and the spot has tons. Growing by pines.

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956346 - 10/09/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)





Look like muscaria or a var. of muscaria?

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956400 - 10/09/13 08:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Defiantly Muscaria what var. idk


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956469 - 10/09/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Amanita muscaria and  :mygoditsfullofstars: they're beautiful.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: jet li]
    #18956508 - 10/09/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah the condition is quite prestine. Theyre gorgeous.

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956511 - 10/09/13 09:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Found some giant puffballs as well, basketball size.

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956534 - 10/09/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Niiice. :cool:


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: jet li]
    #18956542 - 10/09/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Still need a positive ID on these, its pretty obvious that they are muscaria but Id like to know the Var. if possible.  Im thinking formosa

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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956569 - 10/09/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Where are you located?  And don't say space vehicle Normandy. :tongue:


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956574 - 10/09/13 09:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Well, I'm not sure which Amanita species grow on fictional spaceships from mass effect, but I'd call those Amanita muscaria var. guessowii in the eastern us.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: Demonic_Chronic]
    #18956704 - 10/09/13 09:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Look like muscaria or a var. of muscaria?

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Formosa is the European version of Guessowii.

Sure looks like a muscaria... caps so perfect they look fake :grin: lol

They are missing the typical bracelets, some possibly indistinct?
They look like they have more of a roll-like volva ring... volvas have a collar/rim?
Are their any veils intact or are they all just remnants?
-Could just be an environmental variances?
Its hard to tell because I cant zoom in on the pictures.

I would almost like to say these are some European Version of Muscaria Var. Persicina?


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18956740 - 10/09/13 09:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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They are missing the typical bracelets, some possibly indistinct?
They look like they have more of a roll-like volva ring... volvas have a collar/rim?
Are their any veils intact or are they all just remnants?
-Could just be an environmental variances?
Its hard to tell because I cant zoom in on the pictures.

I would almost like to say these are some European Version of Muscaria Var. Persicina?




They posses all the requisite structures; they are only somewhat worn from age and handling. Even with that, they are plainly visible.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: canid] * 1
    #18957009 - 10/09/13 10:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Persicina or formosa if you ask me. I am leaning towards formosa because of the prominent yellowish orange color. Persicina tend to be a bit pinkish orange, but you might be right rev0kadavur, this very well could be some European persicina variety.

One thing is for sure, those are some really nice Amanita muscaria specimens no matter what variety they are! Nice find!


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: canid]
    #18957015 - 10/09/13 10:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

requisite structures for which?
Visually, they contain all the requisite structures (variations considered) for both Guessowii & Persicina.... The taxonomy features for the 2 are nearly identical.

(Formosa's) Guessowii's flesh is typically unchanged when cut or bruised, unless its old, then it can yellow.... Persicina's flesh is typically unchanged or yellow/brown/grey when cut or bruised... even in the younger specimens pictured they are exhibiting brown-yellow bruising to different degrees.... particularly mid-way and below... one of the younger ones looks heavily browned.

Persicina's veil often collapses onto its stipe, just like in the picture, unless thats from handling.

One way to have a better idea would be to see a cross-section of these caps w/stipe apex intact.... The Gill Structures can distinguish the 2, Short Gills are more common in Persicina that Guessowii.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18957044 - 10/09/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder if European american spirits are better than American american spirits.


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Re: Amanita muscaria? [Re: rev0kadavur]
    #18957071 - 10/09/13 10:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I can tell you I've never seen that variation of A. muscaria.  Interesting.


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