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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #18952029 - 10/08/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If I said anything I want to about Zap, I would get banned, but he can say anything he wants and say  "I deliberately misspelled that 'cause I think you both swallow dick taters" and Phred doesn't mind because Phred aligns with Zap's shitty political view.  I got banned for calling someone a clown, but Zap can get away with saying somebody swallows "dick taters." Yeah, Phred is a fucking stooge of a mod who should be relieved of his power.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #18952299 - 10/08/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's what I thought so what is his problem with it


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18953453 - 10/09/13 09:40 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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qman said:
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cc1 said:
Yup universal health care is what we wanted but the dems compromised for the want of bipartisan support look where that got us.




The Dems never wanted universal health care, who do you think wrote Obama Care?  The health care lobbyists!!

Obama Care is the corporate takeover of health care, both parties are in on it, universal care would have been the solution, but that means non-profit.



Didn't corporations already control it?:flowstone:




Not enough apparently, there are over 50-60 million citizens not paying into the system, that is going to change.

Check out the action in most of the health care stocks, they have been soaring since the beginning of the year, investors anticipate huge profit growth from the "socialist/non-profit" Obama Care program, much more than they have had in the past.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: qman] * 1
    #18954574 - 10/09/13 02:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt most of those people are going to be paying into the system.  They are going to get the taxpayer to pay into the system for them.  Either you pay a government to do it or you pay an insurance company.  I'd prefer the insurance company.  You can sue them.

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cc1 said:
So you will not be covered by obamacare?




Me?  :rofl2:  Not unless there is no alternative left at all, although I believe that is Obama's goal.  I did just get a letter from Nippon Life, my health insurance carrier.

Quote:

Please be advised (that long company name) intends not to market, issue or renew small group major medical insurance in New York after December 31, 2013




My health insurance is gone as of the end of the year.  This is the third time in the last 3 years that I have had to find a new insurer because they dropped an entire class, not me specifically.  Now I'm going to have ask my doctor, ONCE AGAIN, what policies he accepts and then shop among them.  Obama lied.  (Why do I even bother typing that?  Everything out of the cocksucking piece of shit's mouth is bullshit)


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18954665 - 10/09/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You clearly don't know what you are talking about.  Here are some undeniable facts about Obama and the Affordable Care Act:

1.  Obama is a genius.
2.  The Affordable Care Act is a flawless piece of legislation that will forever rid the nation of illness.
3.  Anyone who doesn't support Obama or the Affordable Care Act is a racist.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #18954946 - 10/09/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:
You clearly don't know what you are talking about.  Here are some undeniable facts about Obama and the Affordable Care Act:

1.  Obama is a genius.
2.  The Affordable Care Act is a flawless piece of legislation that will forever rid the nation of illness.
3.  Anyone who doesn't support Obama or the Affordable Care Act is a racist.




Personalisms are not allowed.  Icelander will tell you so


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18955072 - 10/09/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

A personalism is directed towards specific persons, not generalizations.

Example of personalism:

X is an idiot.

Example of generalization:

Whoever find X smart is an idiot.

Maybe you should understand words and definitions before using them?


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Re: Obamacare [Re: liquidlounge] * 1
    #18955083 - 10/09/13 04:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're both wrong, of course.  Here is the definition of personalism:

1. a modern philosophical movement locating ultimate value and reality in persons, human or divine.
2. Psychology . an approach stressing individual personality as the central concern of psychology.

I don't know where the shroomery definition came from, but I've never heard it used that way other than on this site.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #18955114 - 10/09/13 04:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:
You're both wrong, of course.  Here is the definition of personalism:

1. a modern philosophical movement locating ultimate value and reality in persons, human or divine.
2. Psychology . an approach stressing individual personality as the central concern of psychology.

I don't know where the shroomery definition came from, but I've never heard it used that way other than on this site.



It has its own Shroomery etymology.  For a complete explanation PM Icelander


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18955122 - 10/09/13 04:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

liquid lounge made a far better case than you did.  At least he put in the effort to do more than cite the common 'tard dictionaries.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18955131 - 10/09/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Making up definitions isn't making a case...except a case that one is not very bright.

Any dictionary you consult will have the same or similar definitions.  NONE will have one that resembles liquid lounge's or would support your use of the word.


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Invisibleliquidlounge

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Re: Obamacare [Re: Enlil]
    #18955139 - 10/09/13 04:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You're both wrong, of course.

When you go personal on someone it's by definition a personalism, you're describing a person. As a rule this is based on referring to the individual with unjust words.

The quality of being characterized by purely personal modes of expression or behavior; idiosyncrasy.

Philosophy Any of various theories of subjective idealism regarding personality as the key to the interpretation of reality.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18955274 - 10/09/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:

It has its own Shroomery etymology.  For a complete explanation PM Icelander




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OfflineMush4Brains
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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18955324 - 10/09/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

you swallow dick taters Zap


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Re: Obamacare [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18955514 - 10/09/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here it goes, the ACA will live untouched in the budget talks and the debt limit will be increased.

How? you ask, the fuck'n piece of shit Koch bros want it that way, and have sent out a letter saying so.

So Zap, are you now going to sign up for the ACA Gold plan?



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Re: Obamacare [Re: sweeper54]
    #18955541 - 10/09/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:flowstone:

Gold?  Hell no.  Platinum at least.  If my doctor takes it.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #18955880 - 10/09/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Participation is mandatory, but he criticizes his detractors for being coercive.

He says he wants to put non essential employees back to work. This should speak for itself, but I will repeat it for the sake of emphasis. Non essential.

They could have no job, under a free market, in which case, all "essential" goods and services would be provided according to the rules of supply and demand, rather than being subsidized by wealth, expropriated and redistributed at gunpoint.

Had enough tea? Who is forcing you to buy it, when and where?

If I cannot afford a treatment, I never especially expected to be covered at public expense. I do not assume that I am under a Marxist, equal liability of all to labor.

What do I owe anyone, and what am I demanding from other people.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #18955909 - 10/09/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I would expect most people here to be in favor of drug legalization, I mean, for everything -- no mater how hard.

How is this supposed to be possible, when they put restrictions on a silly soda pop?

You'll be lucky if they don't ration food and leisure time, both of which have a bearing on health, so will technically be a public liability.

You go to jail if you don't participate, but you think participation will only mean a nudge.


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Re: Obamacare [Re: zappaisgod]
    #18955919 - 10/09/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand why you have such a big prob. With this after you have been dropped from so many insurers? I don't agree with you at all on this topic but wtf I also don't want you to die of a possibly treatable cancer that you will be covered under obamacare? What is the deal fellow shroomerite? And telling people they swallow dick taters wtf?


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Re: Obamacare [Re: durian_2008]
    #18955956 - 10/09/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:
I would expect most people here to be in favor of drug legalization, I mean, for everything -- no mater how hard.






I think I am almost the only one


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