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TrentBoyett
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How does the US government ban new drugs?
#18955448 - 10/09/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Like if they can't prove it's toxic to people?
I just don't get it, I can understand them making people label not for human consumption if it hasn't been thoroughly tested, but how can they just blindly ban any substance that makes you feel good? It's bullshit, there's like no ground for what they're doing... it can't be just because it inebriates you, because if that was true than alcohol and nicotine would be banned too.
Why are people not in a complete uproar over this? Like I don't know what I can do, protest? Write letters to senate members? Inform people via social media?
I've done all of that besides protest because I can't find people to go with me...
How do people just sit back and let this happen? We are supposed to be a free country, right?
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955482 - 10/09/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: I can understand them making people label not for human consumption if it hasn't been thoroughly tested
i don't agree with prohibition, and i agree that it's dumb.
but you know that's not why most chemicals have that "not for human consumption" label, right?
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955485 - 10/09/13 05:25 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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take peoples morals, twist them and you have a fulfilling prophecy of crimes Tough on crime = lots of votes
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: Konyap]
#18955492 - 10/09/13 05:26 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A lot of RCs get banned due to the Analogue Act since a lot of them are just analogues of older well known drugs.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: d9c6]
#18955499 - 10/09/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've smoked salvia that was not for human consumption
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: d9c6]
#18955540 - 10/09/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Legend said:
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mjmihalov said: I can understand them making people label not for human consumption if it hasn't been thoroughly tested
i don't agree with prohibition, and i agree that it's dumb.
but you know that's not why most chemicals have that "not for human consumption" label, right?
No, why do they do it? Just to protect themselves?
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d9c6 said: A lot of RCs get banned due to the Analogue Act since a lot of them are just analogues of older well known drugs.
I know, its bullshit that they can do that too(as well as banning the original drug) but not all new drugs fall in that category.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955555 - 10/09/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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d9c6 said: A lot of RCs get banned due to the Analogue Act since a lot of them are just analogues of older well known drugs.
I know, its bullshit that they can do that too(as well as banning the original drug) but not all new drugs fall in that category.
Yeah I see what you mean. Oh well now a days free means nothing to those men in suits anymore.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955563 - 10/09/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said:
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Legend said:
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mjmihalov said: I can understand them making people label not for human consumption if it hasn't been thoroughly tested
i don't agree with prohibition, and i agree that it's dumb.
but you know that's not why most chemicals have that "not for human consumption" label, right?
No, why do they do it? Just to protect themselves?
yes, it is for research purposes only. All though, a lot of them are used for research purposes don't get me wrong. I suppose in a sense, it also protects the buyers as well.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955694 - 10/09/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Generally, "they" don't just ban drugs. They summarize the available data and publish an eight factor analysis.
In relatively rare cases (except for recently), congress will ban a handful of drugs based on structural similarity, but this is (relatively rare). Drugs are not scheduled under the analog act, that is for prosecution, and it is actually rarely used since its expensive.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955825 - 10/09/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Like if they can't prove it's toxic to people?
I just don't get it, I can understand them making people label not for human consumption if it hasn't been thoroughly tested, but how can they just blindly ban any substance that makes you feel good? It's bullshit, there's like no ground for what they're doing... it can't be just because it inebriates you, because if that was true than alcohol and nicotine would be banned too.
Why are people not in a complete uproar over this? Like I don't know what I can do, protest? Write letters to senate members? Inform people via social media?
I've done all of that besides protest because I can't find people to go with me...
How do people just sit back and let this happen? We are supposed to be a free country, right?
cause drugs are bad
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955837 - 10/09/13 06:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because they can just easily throw it on the bandwagon that is the War on Drugs, and at this point it's pretty much 'we do whatever we want'
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: Shroomism]
#18955952 - 10/09/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Because they can just easily throw it on the bandwagon that is the War on Drugs, and at this point it's pretty much 'we do whatever we want'
Why are people not stopping this? Is everyone really that brainwashed? Or are they just lazy? I'm ready to do whatever I can, as I have been.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18955963 - 10/09/13 07:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They are brainwashed, and lazy for the most part. It was a brilliant plan really. But full of holes.
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Re: How does the US government ban new drugs? [Re: Shroomism]
#18956027 - 10/09/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I threw this same fit two decades ago, how can they do this to us and all that. I openly quit a job rather than face random drug tests.I was vocal about the emotional manipulation, bullshit, horror propagada, and the rest of the farce that the drug war was based on. I told everone how I felt about it, when all my buddies were like,'shhh...', all paraniod that big brother was behind every bush. This was a time when everyone knew simply buying the 'anarchists cookbook' put a permanent mark in your fbi file, and if you took acid more than six times you were certifiably insane. We have made much progress since then. The drug war is lost, it is just not over yet.
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