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Enslyn



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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
#18955028 - 10/09/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I have to agree with NB above me. I myself have no knowledge on how to actually synthesize LSD, but from the reading I've done in the last few months I DO know that you need:
1. Very expensive lab equipment 2. Very hard to acquire chemicals 3. A very strong background in organic chemistry
I have no doubt in your will and drive to accomplish this, but please understand that this isn't something you can just decide to do overnight. There's plenty of reasons why LSD is hard to come by. It isn't meth, you can't just make it with stuff you buy at wal-mart, and by following a recipe you found online. You need to fully understand every single step. Again, I applaud your enthusiasm, but seriously, take your time and get a VERY GOOD grasp on what you're dealing with before jumping in head first.
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sonamdrukpa
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Enslyn]
#18955044 - 10/09/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I might unwelcomingly chime in, the class of drugs you are trying to do a conversion from one to the other in contains chemicals that cause gangrene, vasoconstriction, and abortions. Just saying.
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AmongUs
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18955076 - 10/09/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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A long time ago I was interested in making LSD. I read alot of articles on how to make it. The only ones that seemed legit to me were beyond my comprehension. One thing I read said that synthesis should only be attempted by an experienced chemist in a fully equipped laboratory.
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AmongUs
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: AmongUs]
#18955116 - 10/09/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread does make me think of something. I remember when I used to take acid I took some that was speedy and had more negative effects than normal. I still tripped and it was alot like acid but it had an edge to it that I didn't care for. A friend of mine explained these negative effects by saying it was "bathtub acid". Does anybody know what he was talking about?
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: AmongUs]
#18955136 - 10/09/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea it was probably an RC
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website123
master in flinging nails

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Enslyn]
#18955224 - 10/09/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enslyn said: I myself have no knowledge on how to actually synthesize LSD...
sorry man... no way ill hear you that way... fist learn about it...
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website123
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18955235 - 10/09/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: If I might unwelcomingly chime in, the class of drugs you are trying to do a conversion from one to the other in contains chemicals that cause gangrene, vasoconstriction, and abortions. Just saying.
this is ergot! (im not using it) .-. thats the third time i say that! read the posts please!
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website123
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Nature Boy]
#18955253 - 10/09/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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website123 said: so tell me where the fuck am i wrong!!! ill fix it i promise! but ill not fucking give up,damit!
Wow. That's SO easy.
You are wrong in even thinking that someone such as yourself - with the most rudimentary (read NONE) understanding of organic chemistry can succeed in pulling off a complicated synthesis with impossible to obtain watched materials. You don't even seem capable of understanding the difference between LSA tartrate and diethylamine!!!!!! Wow...just, wow. 
You cannot pull off the synthesis of a molecule like LSD just by following steps as in a cookbook. Things WILL go wrong. Now what??? Because you have no in-depth working understanding of organic chemistry principles, you are DOOMED to failure. DOOMED. For God's sake, you've demonstrated an inability to even do simple math!!! How are you going to do all the requisite volume calculations, concentrations, adjust your reagent masses?
The notion that you could pull this off is laughable. THAT is where you are MOST wrong. And that's just for starters.
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ive told you already that i know alot.. if you dont believe me just forget about this topic.. what im searching of is a wise man, not a sofist! and just to clarify... diethylamine has none to do with tartaric acid... i dont know why you said that, thats just stupid .-.
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
#18955271 - 10/09/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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N.B. just hating cause he never achieved any of his dreams.
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sonamdrukpa
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
#18955457 - 10/09/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: If I might unwelcomingly chime in, the class of drugs you are trying to do a conversion from one to the other in contains chemicals that cause gangrene, vasoconstriction, and abortions. Just saying.
this is ergot! (im not using it) .-. thats the third time i say that! read the posts please!
Class of drugs is what I said. I was not talking about ergot. Ergot is a fungus, it is not a chemical compound. Ergot does contain a host of different chemicals that can cause all of these things, and there are many other similar chemicals also cause these effects as well. When Hoffman discovered LSD, he was doing research on such chemicals' usefulness in preventing bleeding, since they cause vasoconstriction, which can completely block off blood flow to your extremities, among other things. It's only by some sort of universal benevolence that LSD's as safe as it is. Lots of other similar chemicals aren't. Ones that you have no idea of determining if you've made or not.
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Parafaragaramus
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18955897 - 10/09/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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D.M.T
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Parafaragaramus]
#18955969 - 10/09/13 07:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dichloromethane is the solvent you wanna use. However I don't think they're gonna react the way you think they will. Synthesizing diethylamine yourself from DEET and using a peptide coupling reagent are your best bet. This could actually be done but is gonna cost you $50,000 to get started. At that cost and the extra steps as well as lower yield the old methods are superior. of course I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Edited by D.M.T (10/09/13 07:13 PM)
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Lucid Toast
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: MystiqueMushroom] 1
#18957149 - 10/09/13 11:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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MystiqueMushroom said: N.B. just hating cause he never achieved any of his dreams.
Nahh he just had to take joe Molly's place as the realist, and brutally grounds us. I like the contrast the airy fairy love shit gives me a headache sometimes;" I must also have a dark side to be hole" -C.G. Jung
OP: I've herd LSA to lsd teks before, I'm sure it's a myth...
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MystiqueMushroom

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Lucid Toast]
#18957203 - 10/09/13 11:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ohh yea whatever happened to Joe Molly??
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dr.alkaline



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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: Enslyn]
#18957209 - 10/09/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enslyn said: I myself have no knowledge on how to actually synthesize LSD, but from the reading I've done in the last few months I DO know that you need:
1. Very expensive lab equipment 2. Very hard to acquire chemicals 3. A very strong background in organic chemistry
I think this is true for one out of three items on this list. 
The real most trouble I think would be getting the lysergic acid isolation. Lucky for us people have been doing this for a hundred+ years and they wrote down how they did it. I think with patience and dedication the average, literate joe could synthesize LSD. More difficult undertakings have happened. I am sure that more than a few people that post or lurk this forum have the capacities to run this start to finish, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn a handful of them have actually done it.
Edited by dr.alkaline (10/09/13 11:28 PM)
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newageshaman
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
#18957233 - 10/09/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is ergot! (im not using it) .-. thats the third time i say that! read the posts please!
firstly your an idiot, there are more alkaloids in hbwr than lsa and they are all ergot alkaloids. unfortunately i think if you try this you're going to die.... ohwell
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website123
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: sonamdrukpa]
#18959085 - 10/10/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: If I might unwelcomingly chime in, the class of drugs you are trying to do a conversion from one to the other in contains chemicals that cause gangrene, vasoconstriction, and abortions. Just saying.
this is ergot! (im not using it) .-. thats the third time i say that! read the posts please!
Class of drugs is what I said. I was not talking about ergot. Ergot is a fungus, it is not a chemical compound. Ergot does contain a host of different chemicals that can cause all of these things, and there are many other similar chemicals also cause these effects as well. When Hoffman discovered LSD, he was doing research on such chemicals' usefulness in preventing bleeding, since they cause vasoconstriction, which can completely block off blood flow to your extremities, among other things. It's only by some sort of universal benevolence that LSD's as safe as it is. Lots of other similar chemicals aren't. Ones that you have no idea of determining if you've made or not.
oh, thats.... well... thanks for the info.. i really dont know that other toxins that we can make  they arent all discovered yet?
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website123
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: D.M.T]
#18959128 - 10/10/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Dichloromethane is the solvent you wanna use. However I don't think they're gonna react the way you think they will. Synthesizing diethylamine yourself from DEET and using a peptide coupling reagent are your best bet. This could actually be done but is gonna cost you $50,000 to get started. At that cost and the extra steps as well as lower yield the old methods are superior. of course I have no idea what I'm talking about. 
thanks! done a search and you are right,ill fix the synth.. just that im not going to buy 50000 in equipment... my synth costs aroung 400-800 dollars, the most expencive thing is the lsa from argyrea that in my case will cost like nothing because i am growing 13m of it in my meadow house
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rikuni

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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
#18959222 - 10/10/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa
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Re: LSD <--- improving the synthesis and doing it eazy!!! [Re: website123]
#18959374 - 10/10/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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sonamdrukpa said: If I might unwelcomingly chime in, the class of drugs you are trying to do a conversion from one to the other in contains chemicals that cause gangrene, vasoconstriction, and abortions. Just saying.
this is ergot! (im not using it) .-. thats the third time i say that! read the posts please!
Class of drugs is what I said. I was not talking about ergot. Ergot is a fungus, it is not a chemical compound. Ergot does contain a host of different chemicals that can cause all of these things, and there are many other similar chemicals also cause these effects as well. When Hoffman discovered LSD, he was doing research on such chemicals' usefulness in preventing bleeding, since they cause vasoconstriction, which can completely block off blood flow to your extremities, among other things. It's only by some sort of universal benevolence that LSD's as safe as it is. Lots of other similar chemicals aren't. Ones that you have no idea of determining if you've made or not.
oh, thats.... well... thanks for the info.. i really dont know that other toxins that we can make  they arent all discovered yet?
There's an uncounted multitude of things we haven't discovered yet. The universe is awesome.

Sorry we're all being buzz kills. Hope you get to where you want to go, you can get there if you keep learning and applying yourself. Just make sure you can verify you've done right before you eat anything...
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