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What are the suitable wood types for azures?
    #5925394 - 08/02/06 01:13 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

So i hear alder, beech, poplar and spruce will work. On the Fungifun site, it says animal bedding will also work. That means Pine, ceader and Aspen too? is there any particular wood that would work better and give more potency then the other?


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: Ogla]
    #5925598 - 08/02/06 02:23 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Potency is not related generally to substrate. Pine and/or cedar should be avoided. The other woods you listed should all work, as well as Douglas Fir, which is what it mostly grows on along the Oregon coast. If you dig up an azure bed on the coast, it's mostly growing on pieces of douglas fir driftwood that have washed ashore. An excellent substrate for wood lovers is a hardwood sawdust, with a faster decomposing wood chip such as fir. Make sure the sawdust is course, not the fine stuff you get from finish sawing, such as you'd get from a furniture or trim carpentry shop. Sawmill sawdust is larger, usually the size of cereal grains such as rye or millet, so the mycelium has a much easier time colonizing it.
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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5925711 - 08/02/06 02:52 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks, I live in Texas and is kinda hard to find some of these woods. All i can seem to find is Mesquete Hickory Pecan and apple. I guess i will try my hand at Aspen as they carry it at the pet store and is easy to find (i own Gerrbils). Thanks again. I will post with any more questions i have.


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5925805 - 08/02/06 03:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

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An excellent substrate for wood lovers is a hardwood sawdust




hard and sugar maple and white oak work beautifully


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: Ogla]
    #5925856 - 08/02/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

The aspen shavings they sell at pet stores don't work well unless you chop them up more. The shavings have too much distance between them and the mycelium has to waste energy crossing the long distances.

I used to live in Abilene. Mesquite is an excellent substrate for all wood lovers. Ditto for hickory. You can help fill in the cracks between the woodchips with cottonseed hulls, which are plentyful. Good luck.


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5926339 - 08/02/06 06:27 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Out of curiousity, would the mesquite wood chips (the ones they carry at the grocery store for grilling) work? They'd probobly need chopped up a little more, but its just an idea :smile:


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: wiggles]
    #5926747 - 08/02/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, they work. Soak in water for three days. You still need twice as much sawdust by volume as wood chips. In other words, for a five gallon bucket of chips, you want to mix it with two five gallon buckets of hardwood sawdust.

Sawdust Supply in Seattle sells large bags of Alder sawdust for $5. They weigh about 40 lbs or so. I don't know what shipping would be or if they even ship, but if anyone wants to give them a call, their number is 206 622 4321. They have the very large grain alder sawdust that comes from the large sawmills, and it works great for wood lovers. Get a bag of wheat bran from your local health food store and mix it in at 10% the amount of the sawdust.
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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5930276 - 08/04/06 01:04 AM (17 years, 6 months ago)

i have credit on ebay and was looking at this...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ALDER-GRILLING-AND-S...1QQcmdZViewItem

Seems like a good course size for wood lovers, no?  and i could further break it down in a coffee grinder or blender or something. 1 or 2 lbs is all im gonna need no?


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Re: What are the suitable wood types for azures? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #18953816 - 10/09/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Would Casuarina equisetifolia, aka "beefwood" wood chips and sawdust also work for P. azurescens?


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