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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix]
    #18950172 - 10/08/13 03:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18950207 - 10/08/13 03:49 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm arguing for chi, you jelly or something?



:rofl:

OP, this thread and your answers continue to amaze me. By the looks of it I'm not the only one :lol:

Goosebumps. Goosebumps are your reason for bringing dark matter and energy and universal forces into this. Fantastic.

I spent the evenings of last week going to a Qi-Gong crash course, 3-4 hours a day for 6 days. I was simply curious. I'd say some of that stuff definitely works, because the master dude looks physically to be in his late 30s, but in fact has a daughter that's 28. Very healthy guy, lively, trained for decades in China, very knowledgeable about energy meridians, food, medicinal plants, breathing, meditative techniques, pressure points and traditional Chinese medicine. The man dedicated a large portion of his life to studying these ancient ways, and put in thousands of hours into their continuous practice. Given all this, he was extremely modest, spoke no more than he needed to, in order to get his points across or answer relevant questions asked of him. In a week of listening, not once did he strike me as being a show-off in any way, although he had significantly more reasons to do so, than goosebumps. No seeking of praise, no trying to convince you of anything you weren't curious to learn. Basically the exact opposite of what you're doing in this thread.

Goosebumps. Your goosebumps are so incredibly important, that even the most hardened skeptic must bow down to their power. Thread that reads like a tabloid. Wonder-Boy makes goosebumps on skin!!! Best evidence of Qi finally revealed!!!

Oh and one nice thing he mentioned, in Chinese medicine, one is considered healthy when one can maintain a content, positive mood with the attention focused inward. Clearly something you know very little about. This whole thread is one big noisy cry for praise and attention, over a ridiculous achievement on your part.

You haven't answered my question, what's next in your training? Goosebumps seem to have been a huge checkpoint for you, one warranting a very long thread. Now you've mastered goosebumps. What's next? Bigger goosebumps? Ear movements?




That was an analogy, I can't eliminate the possibility that it has something to do with it though, considering it is a huge part of our universe and there is supposedly more of it within you than there is matter.

ASMR is what our scientist are calling Qi or Prana, which is kinda silly because there is already a name for it and it has been around for millennia, so just as any scientific naming goes, the first to name it takes precedence over anything that comes after. Also ASMR is a much broader term Qi or Prana, which explains it much more precisely at this time.

Yes, believe it or not, our science doesn't know everything or have everything uncovered or solved, nor were we the first to discover everything.

Or if the Hindu's has a specific name for this sort of prana maybe we should use that.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix] * 1
    #18950220 - 10/08/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think OP clicked PSP forum instead of Spirituality&Mysticism before making this thread.

Please all, forgive goosebump boy.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: cheeshcat]
    #18950223 - 10/08/13 03:56 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Good luck.




thx :smile:


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: foliocb]
    #18950225 - 10/08/13 03:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I think OP clicked PSP forum instead of Spirituality&Mysticism before making this thread.

Please all, forgive goosebump boy.




lol...

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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Icelander]
    #18950235 - 10/08/13 03:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Bruce trained like a mo fo with constant sparing and weight training.  The spiritual stuff was for the audience who needed a magical carrot. (got to pay the bills and get famous you know)  Very few if any of them got anywhere with that practice.



In Bruce's book (The Tao of Jeet Kune Do) he discusses Taoism and Eastern philosophy at length. I guess you don't consider that "spiritual stuff" though?


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Heffy]
    #18950343 - 10/08/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

OP I'd go back to focusing on something more meaningful. If you're so passionate about Qi-Gong, just get back to your daily practice, improve the quality of it and reap the benefits.

Just as an aside, I don't think you actually practice much Qi-Gong, as in, you're probably not part of a club, don't have a qualified instructor that you're learning from, probably haven't put in more than 100 hours into this stuff total.

Either way, I'd just go back to doing it, less to posting about it. Clearly you don't have the skills sufficiently developed to prove anything at this time, so much more practice is needed.

Focus more on the Gong part of it, less on the Qi.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Heffy]
    #18951127 - 10/08/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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In Bruce's book (The Tao of Jeet Kune Do) he discusses Taoism and Eastern philosophy at length. I guess you don't consider that "spiritual stuff" though?




Everything else aside, Bruce Lee was an actor not a scientist, his opinion is irrelevant.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Heffy]
    #18951801 - 10/08/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Bruce trained like a mo fo with constant sparing and weight training.  The spiritual stuff was for the audience who needed a magical carrot. (got to pay the bills and get famous you know)  Very few if any of them got anywhere with that practice.



In Bruce's book (The Tao of Jeet Kune Do) he discusses Taoism and Eastern philosophy at length. I guess you don't consider that "spiritual stuff" though?




I know I read it but I really don't believe it played that big a part in his life. :shrug:


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Icelander]
    #18952635 - 10/09/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OP I'd go back to focusing on something more meaningful. If you're so passionate about Qi-Gong, just get back to your daily practice, improve the quality of it and reap the benefits.

Just as an aside, I don't think you actually practice much Qi-Gong, as in, you're probably not part of a club, don't have a qualified instructor that you're learning from, probably haven't put in more than 100 hours into this stuff total.

Either way, I'd just go back to doing it, less to posting about it. Clearly you don't have the skills sufficiently developed to prove anything at this time, so much more practice is needed.

Focus more on the Gong part of it, less on the Qi.




How would you know? Something tells me you know hardly anything about Qi Qong and next to nothing about internal alchemy.

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Heffy said:

In Bruce's book (The Tao of Jeet Kune Do) he discusses Taoism and Eastern philosophy at length. I guess you don't consider that "spiritual stuff" though?




Everything else aside, Bruce Lee was an actor not a scientist, his opinion is irrelevant.





Are you saying that you are a scientist? Or that your opinion is irrelevant?

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Icelander said:
Bruce trained like a mo fo with constant sparing and weight training.  The spiritual stuff was for the audience who needed a magical carrot. (got to pay the bills and get famous you know)  Very few if any of them got anywhere with that practice.



In Bruce's book (The Tao of Jeet Kune Do) he discusses Taoism and Eastern philosophy at length. I guess you don't consider that "spiritual stuff" though?




I know I read it but I really don't believe it played that big a part in his life. :shrug:




I think it did. I mean look at his philosophy.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix]
    #18952773 - 10/09/13 03:50 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Everything else aside, Bruce Lee was an actor not a scientist, his opinion is irrelevant.




Are you saying that you are a scientist? Or that your opinion is irrelevant?




Neither, as I am party to this conversation while Bruce Lee is erroneously provided as expert testimony.

*edit: Meaning it is your source in question, not me.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix] * 1
    #18952859 - 10/09/13 05:08 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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OP I'd go back to focusing on something more meaningful. If you're so passionate about Qi-Gong, just get back to your daily practice, improve the quality of it and reap the benefits.

Just as an aside, I don't think you actually practice much Qi-Gong, as in, you're probably not part of a club, don't have a qualified instructor that you're learning from, probably haven't put in more than 100 hours into this stuff total.

Either way, I'd just go back to doing it, less to posting about it. Clearly you don't have the skills sufficiently developed to prove anything at this time, so much more practice is needed.

Focus more on the Gong part of it, less on the Qi.




How would you know? Something tells me you know hardly anything about Qi Qong and next to nothing about internal alchemy.




Well my mom has been a Qi-Gong practitioner for many many years, 4 hours twice a week every week, plus courses, camps and so on. I've had a pretty good chance to notice the physical and psychological effects, and they were NOT leaning towards the kind of cheap showmanship and begging for praise that you display in this thread.

I've also been to a couple of courses and gatherings with her club, so my own experience and practice was limited, however I have had the chance to interact with many long time practitioners and you seem very superficial and attention-seeking by comparison. This leads me to believe that you don't have a group that shares this particular interest, that you can meet and practice with regularly, thus you ended up feeling needy and insecure about this, looking for confirmation and validation in this lame thread. Look at me I can make goosebumps wow ain't I awesome isn't my Chi utterly amazing? :grin:  Well no, not really.

If it's internal alchemy, emphasis on internal, you should probably do it and wait for others to notice the result, not come here starting tabloid-like threads trying to wow people with completely irrelevant accomplishments. If you say, put in your long years of training and can then throw a needle through glass with your bare hand, or if you can do tummo and heat up icy sheets on your bare skin then yeah, come here and talk about it all you want. Goosebumps control is completely irrelevant. If there's any real Qi-Gong practitioners reading this crappy thread they probably cringe in embarrassment :facepalm:


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18953162 - 10/09/13 07:51 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whilst I agree with you we should be humble towards the fact teknix could potentially progress science. Chi is probably not the best word to describe your goosebumps teknix, as you can tell from this thread. You're able to produce goosebumps on your arms when you want to sounds more correct IMO.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: liquidlounge] * 1
    #18953169 - 10/09/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I cannot be humbled by someone who claims giving himself goosebumps is "the best objective evidence of chi". 

Nor will I follow the advice from someone who claims this goosebump ideology may progress science.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix]
    #18953171 - 10/09/13 07:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Your videos are of bad quality. Film yourself doing it repeatedly for 10 minutes with a high resolution camera. I don't deny you're able to get goosebumps on your arms when you want though, I am sure you're not alone either. Probably some in your town doing it without claiming it's chi but something else.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: omegafaust]
    #18953182 - 10/09/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I cannot be humbled by someone who claims giving himself goosebumps is "the best objective evidence of chi". 

I never said we should be humble about the chi part, merely that he, just like yourself could progress science.

Nor will I follow the advice from someone who claims this goosebump ideology may progress science.

Why? He's apparently about to volunteer for studies, I am not sure about the legitimacy of these studies though. Understanding the human mind and body is as, if not more important than the surroundings.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18953337 - 10/09/13 08:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Oh hell, the sheer level of failing to Google stuff.

Bunch of people who can give themselves goosebumps.

And in video form if anybody really needs more of this crap



Guess it's the dawn of a new age, Chi masters are sprouting up all over the place :lol:


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: Spacerific]
    #18953370 - 10/09/13 09:11 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And these chi experts are.going to change the face of science with their fantastic control over the human mind!


But really, this thread has gone too far already. its grasping at straws.


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: teknix]
    #18953396 - 10/09/13 09:22 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think it did. I mean look at his philosophy.

Very few people actually live out their philosophies in daily life. :brucelee:


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Re: The Best Objective Evidence of Chi. [Re: liquidlounge]
    #18953439 - 10/09/13 09:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh hell, the sheer level of failing to Google stuff.

Bunch of people who can give themselves goosebumps.

And in video form if anybody really needs more of this crap



Guess it's the dawn of a new age, Chi masters are sprouting up all over the place :lol:



As previously written five posts above this one:

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I don't deny you're able to get goosebumps on your arms when you want though, I am sure you're not alone either. Probably some in your town doing it without claiming it's chi but something else.



So why do you answer me as if I believe teknix is the first to ever do such?


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