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isic
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: spacechildo]
#18953714 - 10/09/13 10:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: The cakes has nothing to do with it. Inspect the mushroom, as you would inspect any other food you eat. If my apples look rotten and smells, I don't eat them. If the apple looks fine, I don't care what the tree it grew on looks like.
So if the apple looks fine, but the tree grew in an old toxic waste dump site, you wouldn't care what the tree looked like or what the condition of the tree was? You would just say "hey, the apple looks fine, I'm gonna eat this". To each their own I guess, but I don't need an apple that bad... or mushrooms for that matter.
Edited by isic (10/09/13 10:55 AM)
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18953753 - 10/09/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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toxic waste? why should there be toxic waste in your grow, or anyones grow? Replace "apples" with potatoes from my garden, my point is still the same.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: spacechildo]
#18953767 - 10/09/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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"So if the apple looks fine, but the tree grew in an old toxic waste dump site, you wouldn't care what the tree looked like or what the condition of the tree was? You would just say "hey, the apple looks fine, I'm gonna eat this". To each their own I guess, but I don't need an apple that bad... or mushrooms for that matter.[/quote
that's all just have some stands people why tell people to eat things you cant see for yourself MagicEngineer: "Man don't eat that Mc Donald's its 2 days old" mjmihalov: "But it probably wont kill me it looks ok just the bun was moldy"
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: spacechildo]
#18953768 - 10/09/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Plants and fungi work different guys, fungi do NOT absorb toxins from their substrate.
/end thread.
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MagicEngineer said:
just have some stands people MagicEngineer: "Man don't eat that Mc Donald's its 2 days old" mjmihalov: "But it probably wont kill me it looks ok just the bun was moldy"
Green mold is non toxic, you can eat a moldy bun and still be fine.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: spacechildo]
#18953785 - 10/09/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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You are clearly missing the point as your potato and tree analogy completely ignore the fact that the OP notices something foreign like mold or a contam on his myc. To make a proper analogy, you would have to have something foreign or out of the ordinary with your tree or the soil your potatoes are growing in. I too have a garden and if I suspected anything foreign on something I was growing to consume, I would not eat it. I don't care if it's mushrooms, apples, potatoes, tomatoes or pussy!
If I suspect my "fruit" or what my "fruit" is growing from, might be contaminated in the slightest, I am not gonna consume that shit!
Like I said, too each their own. I'm just saying I wouldn't take the risk that's all.
Edited by isic (10/09/13 11:16 AM)
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18953792 - 10/09/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is literally no risk taken with the mushrooms though.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18953833 - 10/09/13 11:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, it was a poor example, I agree. Science tells you it's okay to eat, because mushrooms can't draw mold from the substrate.
Mushrooms can mold however, and I wouldn't eat those. I have done so before, ended up with a stomach ache while tripping. Nothing big, just annoying.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18953848 - 10/09/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: There is literally no risk taken with the mushrooms though.
I guess give what ever advice you want no matter how reckless I might think it is. Just don't tell people that my cautious advice is no good because I haven't been here long and have a low post count.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: spacechildo]
#18953877 - 10/09/13 11:30 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: Yes, it was a poor example, I agree. Science tells you it's okay to eat, because mushrooms can't draw mold from the substrate.
Mushrooms can mold however, and I wouldn't eat those. I have done so before, ended up with a stomach ache while tripping. Nothing big, just annoying.
I know what you are saying space and I understand. Like I said in my first post, I'm sure many people have eaten moldy/contaminated mushrooms and were just fine. It's just not something I would do because, quite frankly I don't want to get high that bad. I guess when it comes to mushrooms, fungus and molds, I just don't take any unnecessary risks, that's all.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954024 - 10/09/13 12:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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isic said:
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mjmihalov said: There is literally no risk taken with the mushrooms though.
I guess give what ever advice you want no matter how reckless I might think it is. Just don't tell people that my cautious advice is no good because I haven't been here long and have a low post count.
I never said your advice is no good, I simply said take something that a poster like you says lightly, and to put more emphasis on something a poster like RR says.
Honestly it doesn't matter if you think it's reckless or not, I know it's not. I've grown mushrooms, and ate mushrooms from a moldy substrate before with no problem, as well as have countless other people. Not to mention most if not all trusted cultivators agree with me.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954068 - 10/09/13 12:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you wouldn't ever eat a mushroom picked in the wild then? You do realize our soil is literally full of mold and other germs, as well as feces and dead rotten animals... not to mention all the mold spores and other airborne contams that are floating around out there.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18954159 - 10/09/13 12:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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And you are the reason why I am deciding to grow my own mushrooms. Because I cannot trust people like yourself to take the kind of precautions I will take. Like I said before, I have been finding and eating wild mushrooms for almost 2 decades and I have always been cautious and that isn't gonna change in cultivating them. Yes I realize the dangers in collecting wild mushrooms and probably only consume less than 1% of the specimens I find for that reason.
Maybe before giving the OP the green light to mow down on his suspicious mushrooms, don't you think the OP should positively identify what he is looking at first?
Why does outdoor cannabis plants have less bugs and mold than indoor cannabis? Because your indoor cannabis is the only bar in town with no natural predators in a confined space, so mold and bugs can hang out unimpeded and they have no place to go.
I know one thing for sure, based on what you have said in this thread, I would feel much better going out to my old stomping grounds in Texas and pick a fresh, grown by nature cube, than to even think about eating something you grew! Believe me when I say that nature will always be better at growing mushrooms than you will
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954200 - 10/09/13 12:45 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There is (virtually)no danger in eating a wild specimen, I was just saying that to prove a point.
No, because it literally does not fucking matter what the contam is you can grow your mushrooms on MRSA infected substrate and it wouldn't make any difference.
Nature is good at growing mushrooms, certainly better than me, but not as good as some people can grow them.
Also IDGAF if you'd eat my mushrooms or not, many people have and no ones dead yet so I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18954276 - 10/09/13 01:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok dude sounds good, you and your friends stick to eating molding mushrooms and I'll stick to being cautious. And we will agree to disagree.
As for man vs nature... Until I see someone make a monotub/FC or whatever as big as the cow pasture I used to pick my cubes in, I will not say that any man on this planet can grow mushrooms better than nature! This pasture is 2 1/2 miles wide and as long as the eye can see! From mid May to the beginning of July, you could collect so many cubes in one day, you could fill a semi truck (even then, you would run out of daylight before cubes). You could empty that truck, come back the next day and fill that bitch up again! You could repeat this daily for almost 2 months... and that's just the peak months. Unlike the Psilocybes in the PNW, rain is not necessary to pop up cubes in Texas. The humidity does it every day. Those suckers grow all year down there. You show me anyone on this planet that can say they can match or grow mushrooms better than that! Yeah right!
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954314 - 10/09/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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isic said: Ok dude sounds good, you and your friends stick to eating molding mushrooms
Point of the discussion; They aren't moldy. No mold in them. Does not have mold.
Do you throw away everything edible from your home if 1 cake shows sign of contam? No, because it doesn't matter.
This is getting old, do as you please, but you're wasting good shrooms.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954360 - 10/09/13 01:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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A lot of people... they may not not grow 100,000 lbs a year, but then again must people aren't growing on many square miles of land they're growing in tubs with like 5ft of surface area, if you times that 5 square feet by however many square feet you're pasture is I guarantee they grow more foot for foot than nature does, that's not what I was talking about anyways, I was talking about using agar to get more potent, faster growing, larger, better looking, etc... fruits.
None of this matters though, this is not what this thread is about.
IT IS COMMONLY ACCEPTED IN THE MUSHROOM COMMUNITY THAT YOU CAN EAT MUSHROOMS FROM A CONTAMINATED SUBSTRATE AS LONG AS THE MUSHROOMS THEMSELVES DO NOT SHOW SIGNS OF INFECTION.
I'm done talking about it, I know what works for me as well as most of the rest of the community, if you don't want to eat perfectly good fruits I don't give a fuck, but it's no reason to spread misinformation.
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#18954526 - 10/09/13 02:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not spreading misinformation because I have no idea what the OP's mold/contam is. Without that knowledge I can only give responsible advice and that is to be cautious. If being cautious is tossing out a couple mushrooms, then so be it! That is not spreading misinformation!
I would be spreading misinformation if I were to tell him it was ok to eat his mushrooms with out actually seeing and examining the cakes and mushrooms myself in person. Until you know for sure without any uncertainty what this guy has on his cakes you should not tell him to eat them. It could very well and most likely be completely harmless, but YOU DON"T KNOW THAT! The fact that you or I don't know exactly what this guy has on his cakes is just that, a fact! Your assumption that the OP has properly identified whatever it is as mold, is just that, an assumption. Your advice is based on an assumption and my cautious advice is based on the lack of knowledge pertaining to all the unknown variables in the OP's situation. Who's spreading misinformation?
Edited by isic (10/09/13 02:05 PM)
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954548 - 10/09/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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My advice is not based on assumptions, what don't you get?
You could grow your mushrooms on substrate infected with HIV and your mushrooms would still be good to eat, mushrooms do no absorb contams from the substrate no matter what contam it is.
You sir are the one spreading misinformation...
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Re: When are brf cakes finished? [Re: isic]
#18954608 - 10/09/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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This thread is hilarious.
To all yall in this thread that are afraid of mold:
Have you ever eaten blue cheese? Mold.
Ever used canola oil? They spray the whole fucking field with Trich. spores to control fungus.
Breathe much? The mold spore count in the outside air would probably surprise you.
Listen to mj, and re-read the RR quote he posted.
Mold is a danger to your future grows, not your gut.
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