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    #18950271 - 10/08/13 04:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

So here is my 20g fish tank grow chamber! The bottom layer is water with 2 long air bubble stones. Next layer is for 1-1.5inch of perlite (not in there yet). Next layer houses the cakes! For the cover i just syranwrapped the lid of the tank. Right now everything is in the incubator which i use a water bomb to heat up the box. Im planning on putting a small fishtank thermometer in the bottom level set at 75 to keep the perfect temp(winters coming). Initial Spray is necessary on the sides to supercharge the start up! All of this is hidden in a tote(for stealth reasons) with Blue/Red Leds(correct NM n wavelength used during photosynthesis) to a switch on the outside. I used Leds vs a regular light because you can get the individual spectrum you want. Blues promote pinning so its a must. Also the outer box has two fans wired to switch's to blow on to the tank to help cool down(more for summer grows). Keep in mind in my pictures i have rabbit wire separating the layers, was gonna replace with some cut laundry basket siding. But if anything knows rabbit wire will be fine let me know!
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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer] * 1
    #18950321 - 10/08/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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So here is my 20g fish tank grow chamber!



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Initial Spray is necessary on the sides to supercharge the start up!



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All of this is hidden in a tote(for stealth reasons) with Blue/Red Leds(correct NM n wavelength used during photosynthesis) to a switch on the outside.



:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Mushrooms do not photosynthesize.....

You have a lot of reading to do.

Fish tanks have been outdated for 20 years, they dissipate gasses very poorly.

I suggest reading every link in my signature, that should get you pretty caught up.

You have been reading some really old info.

If cultivating cakes, go with a SGFC setup.

If you choose bulk, then monotubs or greenhouses are your best bet.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950326 - 10/08/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I used Leds vs a regular light because you can get the individual spectrum you want. Blues promote pinning so its a must.



Blues do not promote pinning, that is complete bullshit.

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 86F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950348 - 10/08/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Some really good ideas but mushrooms are not plants nor are the fruit bodies


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950353 - 10/08/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Is "fist tank" your word for the rectum, or is it your word for the bahjiner?


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: Me_Roy]
    #18950366 - 10/08/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Reminds me of some of my early Rube Goldberg machines.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: Me_Roy]
    #18950368 - 10/08/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Is "fist tank" your word for the rectum, or is it your word for the bahjiner?




was that just a post to post something? how insightful

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18948851


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950412 - 10/08/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I was just saying the the wavelength and the nms are the same used for photosynthis. for example if i used blue n red leds what didnt match the suns spectrum thats not going to tell the mushrooms its time to start pinning. hence induces pinning


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicEngineer]
    #18950427 - 10/08/13 04:47 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

magicengineer AND magicboomer making 2 such similarly unnecessary devices?

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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950481 - 10/08/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I was just saying the the wavelength and the nms are the same used for photosynthis. for example if i used blue n red leds what didnt match the suns spectrum thats not going to tell the mushrooms its time to start pinning. hence induces pinning



No bro, light does not "induce" pinning...

As I stated before, main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is only secondary, after the main triggers are achieved.

Your substrate should be getting ambient/indirect light from the start.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950488 - 10/08/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You just said again its a trigger doesnt matter if its first or second it still is an important component.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: spacechildo]
    #18950499 - 10/08/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Whats unnecessary with my set up? You need lights, perlight level, air flow. like i said its stealth so if i can consolidate it more im down.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950502 - 10/08/13 05:02 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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You just said again its a trigger doesnt matter if its first or second it still is an important component.



I never said is was not important, but it is certainly not needed for pinning.

Mushrooms will colonize pin and fruit in complete darkness.

That being said having the proper spectrum lighting does help things be healthier and more plentiful.

My whole point is that you are stressing the fact that the proper light is needed for pinning, when that is just not the case.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950519 - 10/08/13 05:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

As long as i dont have to change them lol. Do you think a small heater in the water lvl to keep at 75 would be good? winters right around the corner gonna be hard to keep it warm in consistent with out it.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950531 - 10/08/13 05:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Another thing to note is im trying to get perfect conditions on this 20gallon, because i have a 100gallon i would like to make a perfected model out of once it doesnt require as much stealth.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950538 - 10/08/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do you think the rabbit wire will hurt anything? I was gonna switch out with plastic if i have to.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950541 - 10/08/13 05:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Whats unnecessary with my set up? You need lights, perlight level, air flow. like i said its stealth so if i can consolidate it more im down.



Using a fish tank is outdated and will most likely not function to your liking.

Blue lights are not needed, Daylight 6500K lighting is recommended.

They are more towards the blue end of the spectrum, but are still white.

Perlite in the bottom of a tub with no holes is pointless, and does nothing for humidity.

I highly doubt your air pump is sufficient for FAE....

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As long as i dont have to change them lol. Do you think a small heater in the water lvl to keep at 75 would be good? winters right around the corner gonna be hard to keep it warm in consistent with out it.



You never want to heat the fruiting chamber, you want to heat the room.

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Another thing to note is im trying to get perfect conditions on this 20gallon, because i have a 100gallon i would like to make a perfected model out of once it doesnt require as much stealth.



Fish tanks made shitty fruiting chambers 20 years ago....it hasn't gotten any better.

Build a SGFC for cakes, or monotubs for bulk...it's that simple bro....this is how you will get the best bang for your buck IMO.


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950556 - 10/08/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:
And why would you need 2 accounts?
the engineer and the boomer? registered the same day, same unnecessary
devices etc. You even post in the same posts with both accounts..


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: PussyFart]
    #18950589 - 10/08/13 05:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The perlite is sitting on a raised rack, its the same as sitting on the bottom of a tube with holes in it. Same concept as the tub your talking about but i put the water with bubblers at the bottom n an air pump for 100+g should work well in a tank thats only 20g?


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Re: Glowbox 5000 fist tank [Re: MagicBoomer]
    #18950599 - 10/08/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I dont see how an sgfc is any different just has more holes to help with the exchange but thats what my pumps for other then that same exact thing.


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