|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
twistedty
Forcefully Retired



Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 5,487
Loc: Middle
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
|
yes agreed it is quite a mess, i cant pull first flush 8os like Mr. FH can. but outta my 51qts i get 4-6 all day. dialing in my tubs really helped immensely i cant clarify that enough. and im still trying to find my wonder culture via agar.
|
OregonMushys
Rye Wata Whippin



Registered: 09/09/13
Posts: 280
Last seen: 6 years, 4 months
|
|
I get 8oz+ off each mono using just MS a lot of the time, though i do get a crap tub here n there. Using 6qt spawn to 1 brick coir and 2qt verm. Pic below in my sig was MS using i think 8qt spawn.
Its quite easy if you dont have massive ninja contams in your spawn jars. Those ninja contams, they'll getchya. Gotta be sterile while preparing your inoculant into your spawn jars.
-------------------- Ps. Cubensis Ps. Cyanescens Ps. Stuntzii *GrowLog*
    
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Neuroplay]
#18949261 - 10/08/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Well, since you're growing reishi, then I guess the following may show what's involved for a commercial setups:

Edited by Dark76 (10/08/13 11:55 AM)
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Dark76]
#18949312 - 10/08/13 12:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Aloha medicinals, they are at the top of their game. I always like seeing their marketing photos.
|
twistedty
Forcefully Retired



Registered: 07/01/12
Posts: 5,487
Loc: Middle
Last seen: 3 years, 7 months
|
|
i watched this a few months back it gives you tiny peek into a commercial lab.
i want their sterilizer!
if you wanna skip to it its at about 12-16min mark
Edited by twistedty (10/08/13 12:19 PM)
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: twistedty]
#18949677 - 10/08/13 01:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
That was most entertaining, even with some of the cheesy commentary.
That commercial setup was awesome.
Thanks for sharing!
|
Neuroplay
Stranger


Registered: 09/28/13
Posts: 21
Last seen: 10 years, 3 months
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Dark76]
#18949785 - 10/08/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I've seen all of thoes videos, I don't want to be THAT big, (They probably yeild hundres of pounds per flus) But what I've noticed is that they are fruiting straight out of the bag...
I was thinking of making a few 4 X 8 feet beds, mabey 5 of them stacked on top of each other, and fill it up with 4 inches thick of spawn/hpoo mix, with a casing layer.
The only problem I may have is the substrate contaminating while it colonises, but I can probably fix this by making lids or something.
I'm only selling to small individual health food stores, tat's all I plan on doing here.
Thanks for all your help guys!
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Neuroplay]
#18949927 - 10/08/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Don't you mean hardwood sawdust/chips? I'm no expert on Ganoderma, so I could be wrong.
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Neuroplay]
#18949954 - 10/08/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Neuroplay said: 4 inches thick of spawn/hpoo mix, with a casing layer.
Now why does that sound so familiar?
|
Stromrider
This must be the place



Registered: 06/02/13
Posts: 7,338
Loc: Dept of know what I'm say...
Last seen: 11 hours, 27 minutes
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Neuroplay]
#18949965 - 10/08/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Neuroplay said: I've seen all of thoes videos, I don't want to be THAT big, (They probably yeild hundres of pounds per flus) But what I've noticed is that they are fruiting straight out of the bag...
I was thinking of making a few 4 X 8 feet beds, mabey 5 of them stacked on top of each other, and fill it up with 4 inches thick of spawn/hpoo mix, with a casing layer.
The only problem I may have is the substrate contaminating while it colonises, but I can probably fix this by making lids or something.
I'm only selling to small individual health food stores, tat's all I plan on doing here.
Thanks for all your help guys!
Not growing cubes huh
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Stromrider]
#18949984 - 10/08/13 02:54 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, and with a beginner's level of skill he's going to be looking at a punch in the face with contams
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
|
Now that I think about it, I wonder if Violet's Tek would fit his desire for extra bulk better. Certainly, Reishi could be done that way as well.

Edit: removed link, for reasons left unsaid.
Edited by Dark76 (10/08/13 03:05 PM)
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Dark76]
#18950043 - 10/08/13 03:07 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I hope you're joking 
That thread is DOA:
Quote:
RogerRabbit said: This thread has been closed.
Reason: OK girls, or boys acting like girls.
I've had enough of this bullshit disinformation being passed around as fact by trolls. This entire thread is based on stupid shit such as mushrooms using chemical fertilizer to become more potent, etc., etc.,
I can't bring myself to believe these two are simply this stupid. They turn every mycological foundation on its ass, making absurd claims which cause those of us who know how to grow high quality mushrooms by the metric ton to roll our eyes, and then provide no backup. This has gone on way too long and I'm sick to tears of having my inbox filled up with moderator notifications for trolling daily. These two may as well be claiming that red cars get better gas mileage, and then demanding proof to the contrary from doubters.
Take it back to 'the other shroom sites' where such trolling is gobbled up by noobs without a clue. RR
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18866454#18866454
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
|
Indeed I was...I felt so guilty I had to at least remove the hyperlink.
|
Violet



Registered: 12/06/11
Posts: 4,205
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Neuroplay]
#18950094 - 10/08/13 03:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Monotubs have such high yield each because of their size. Having larger tubs is effectively the same as having more tubs because they both only mean more substrate total. As long as you're using bulk substrate, the way to improve yields (besides culturing & growing better as mentioned above) is to have more subs.
Quote:
Neuroplay said: running 10-20 monotubs at once really gets annoying. Is this all there is?
Yes, it IS... REALLY annoying! No, it's not all there is! I grow with straight-grain only. With good culturing & and simple procedures I cut my heat treatment energy expenditure down to 1/4, use only 1 substrate material (grass seed or brown rice) & plastic containers, and grow as much as ever with less work and any fruiting chamber I like. The tech is linked in my signature :]
-------------------- Intentionally or not, here in mushcult we are purveyors of love culture and enlightenment movement. Let's try to act like it! PODS TEK - Growing Invitro with BRF/verm or Grass Seed containers The simplest, quickest, safest tek! For beginners, culturers, lazy people, stealth lovers, contam haters, and alternative seekers! • Violet's Teks and Posts •
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Violet]
#18950103 - 10/08/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Hi Violet, nice to see you bumping your thread that ends in RR calling you out
|
maddchef
Vaginal escape artist



Registered: 09/04/09
Posts: 5,602
Loc: Your mom's vag
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Violet]
#18950105 - 10/08/13 03:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Don't you think if growing straight from grains was practical and economical, commercial farms would be doing it? I'm not going to go down the road of why this is not optimal.
-------------------- In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. All mushrooms are edible, but some only once..... Easier than cakes I do science and shit.
|
Dark76


Registered: 07/14/13
Posts: 121
Last seen: 5 years, 9 months
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: maddchef]
#18950119 - 10/08/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
I apologize. Please forgive me.
|
FrankHorrigan
The Inquisition



Registered: 01/04/11
Posts: 10,573
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Dark76]
#18950129 - 10/08/13 03:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Dark76 said: I apologize. Please forgive me.
Look what you've started!
|
Stromrider
This must be the place



Registered: 06/02/13
Posts: 7,338
Loc: Dept of know what I'm say...
Last seen: 11 hours, 27 minutes
|
Re: (More) bulk than monotubs? [Re: Dark76]
#18950133 - 10/08/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
|
|
The mods should just go ahead and close this thread now because here we go
|
|