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4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized
#18949494 - 10/08/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized
LONDON (AP) — U.K. authorities have made four arrests following last week's closure of the notorious black market website known as Silk Road, Britain's National Crime Agency said Tuesday, adding that millions of pounds (dollars) worth of electronic currency had been seized.
The agency said the bust happened within hours of the arrest in the United States of the alleged Silk Road administrator Ross Ulbricht, suggesting that authorities may now be targeting the network of drug dealers who made fortunes peddling illicit substances from the Internet bazaar.
The agency's director general Keith Bristow said in a statement that other users of the site would soon feel the heat.
"These latest arrests are just the start; there are many more to come," he said.
Few details of the suspects were released. The Crime Agency called them "significant users" of Silk Road and described them as three men in their 20s from the northern English city of Manchester and a man in his 50s from southwestern England.
Silk Road gained widespread notoriety two years ago as a black market bazaar where visitors could buy and sell hard drugs using bitcoins, an electronic currency independent of any centralized control. A so-called "hidden site," Silk Road used an online tool known as Tor to mask the location of its servers. While many other sites sell drugs more or less openly, Silk Road's sophistication, its user-friendly escrow system and its promise of near-total anonymity quickly made it among the best-known.
Officials say the black market website brokered more than $1 billion in sales before the FBI arrested Ulbricht at the San Francisco public library last week.
Britain's Crime Agency did not immediately return a message seeking comment on the suspects' whereabouts or how much electronic currency had been seized.
In its statement, the agency said the arrests sent a message to criminals that the anonymity touted by sites like Silk Road is an illusion.
"The hidden Internet isn't hidden and your anonymous activity isn't anonymous," it said. "We know where you are, what you are doing and we will catch you."
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: leon trout] 2
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Well they can try, but any vendor with half a brain has already packed up, moved on, cashed out, relocated, and prepared for the next chance to keep on sharing the love. Screw the pigs, I hope they don't even make a dent in the amount of revenue generated on that, or other sites.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#18949552 - 10/08/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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True, the system is our enemy it seems
share the love, screw the pigs :-)
even when the system "tries to help us" or make it seem so, it is still our enemy
I don't accept a system that has no acceptance or tolerance
good to know, I'm sure most silkroad users have hidden/used their stuff now, good luck piggies
the system must die, luckily I know plenty of people screwing it right now in many sorts of ways because it screwed them first but the good thing is... they keep screwing It soon I will start too likely, have gotten screwed a few times too lately by 'It'
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lessismore]
#18949576 - 10/08/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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So basically they are going after users/sellers who didn't encrypt theyre data.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Ogla]
#18949592 - 10/08/13 01:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I assume they're going after people they were able to backtrace where the package came from in undercover buys. The guy in Washington selling heroin they busted for instance was using his own PO Box and fake name as a return address and sent packages through express mail. It's likely these guys did something stupid like that too. I never even logged on SR when it was up but I thought I had read somewhere sensitive data like addresses were coded to be automatically encrypted.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: leon trout]
#18949603 - 10/08/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They didn't catch me... there is no trail and all the drugs got pumped into my veins long ago.
Good luck finding people using fake names, false addresses, other people's computers or public wifi and anonymous currency.. All bark and very little bite.
Yeah that is a challenge, piggies, come get me, fuckheads.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Ogla]
#18949604 - 10/08/13 01:21 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yup...
if you forgot GPG/PGP and bought 50+,100+ items of a drug, you can expect them anytime soon likely
hide your stuff, invite the pigs for coffee, be nice to them
mentally reprogram their subconsciousness if you act their way, they will keep being like this and it will only negatively affect your mind, so be nice
would like to hear if unencrypted orders were encrypted, where did you get that info?
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lessismore]
#18949618 - 10/08/13 01:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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All the trippy treats that came my way are long since consumed, and my piss is probably getting pretty close to clean again. I'd be glad to offer the little oinkers a cup of joe and a donut for their trouble if they come squealing around my door. It always pays to be a gracious host, especially when you're one step ahead and have not thing one to hide.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: egodeathflux]
#18949634 - 10/08/13 01:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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True, good I never used my own address :-)
ordered many times to different addresses, never my own, new addr each time
and only personal amount, small qtys :-)
they're gonna have a hard time searching all those places and legal trouble by doing so too probably..
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lessismore]
#18949648 - 10/08/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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They'll go after the vendors and more than likely just give customers they can identify a letter saying it's illegal to import controlled substances into the United States. The marketplaces before it that went down, that's what they did and they weren't even close to the size of SR. (2000 customers vs. 100,000 customers)
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In one of the other articles here on Shroomery, someone said this. But never been on SR so don't know for an actual fact.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: leon trout] 1
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"We know where you are, what you are doing and we will catch you."
Do you? How many millions of culprits are there? How many did you catch? What about Atlantis: How many of their users did you catch? Oh, none? Why is that? Don't you know where they are, who they are, what they are doing, etc? You had one site's database delivered to you in a bust. You did not have the technical capabilities to otherwise identify those users. You probably can't even use Linux, or know what it is.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: something cool]
#18949716 - 10/08/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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come get me piggies
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#18949717 - 10/08/13 01:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said: Well they can try, but any vendor with half a brain has already packed up, moved on, cashed out, relocated, and prepared for the next chance to keep on sharing the love. Screw the pigs, I hope they don't even make a dent in the amount of revenue generated on that, or other sites.
Venders are People, have attachments. If you are careful and EXPERIENCED enough to know how to protect yourself and able to drop out, you'll be insanely successful.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: GreenGrassMatt] 1
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: NWlight]
#18949753 - 10/08/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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come get me piggies 
don't tempt me 
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Dickhead]
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Piggies go after the safest drug dealers... hmm still don't see any logic here.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: something cool]
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"We know where you are, what you are doing and we will catch you."
Do you? How many millions of culprits are there? How many did you catch? What about Atlantis
You know it just occurred to me (and it probably has already occurred to you who are smarter than me already) but isn't it strange how Atlantis shut itself down due to "security reasons" just a couple of weeks before SR was shut down by the FEDs
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Dickhead]
#18950309 - 10/08/13 04:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said: Well they can try, but any vendor with half a brain has already packed up, moved on, cashed out, relocated, and prepared for the next chance to keep on sharing the love. Screw the pigs, I hope they don't even make a dent in the amount of revenue generated on that, or other sites.
Venders are People, have attachments. If you are careful and EXPERIENCED enough to know how to protect yourself and able to drop out, you'll be insanely successful.
Cops play whack a mole, it is what they do. Try not to be a mole.

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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: Synthe] 1
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: egodeathflux]
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: D.M.T]
#18951882 - 10/08/13 09:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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leon trout said: The agency's director general Keith Bristow said in a statement that other users of the site would soon feel the heat.
"These latest arrests are just the start; there are many more to come," he said.
Few details of the suspects were released. The Crime Agency called them "significant users" of Silk Road and described them as three men in their 20s from the northern English city of Manchester and a man in his 50s from southwestern England.
Emphasis Added.
1- Ouch. I'm really glad right now that I never used silk road.
2- Am I the only one who picked up on the wording above? I wonder if that's significant. notice how they're not talking about a bust of drug dealers. Nowhere is the selling of drugs mentioned in relation to those arrested, and I can't help but wonder if they're going after some customers.
Did that not happen with webtryp, in the UK?
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losfreddy said: So basically they are going after users/sellers who didn't encrypt theyre data.
That's my guess. Low hanging fruit.
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D.M.T said: The guy in Washington selling heroin they busted for instance was using his own PO Box and fake name as a return address and sent packages through express mail. It's likely these guys did something stupid like that too. I never even logged on SR when it was up but I thought I had read somewhere sensitive data like addresses were coded to be automatically encrypted.
Actually, if we're talking about the same case, that's not how that guy got busted. They did get his PO box, but he wasn't dumb enough to use that as a return address for an order. He used random return addresses (real ones), with names that did not match the address. A random package was spotted when they were doing interdiction with a dog. If I remember correctly (I read the whole indictment) they then contacted the persons at the return address, and confirmed that there was no one living there with that name. They said they didn't care if the inspectors opened it, so they did, found drugs, etc.
If I remember right, supposedly a dog hit on another package, giving a positive signal for drugs, so they opened it. The package did not contain drugs, but rather a large amount of cash (a few grand, I think.. and I thought that part was weird-- why did the dog hit for drugs, if there were no drugs?) That package was addressed to a PO box (or the box was the return-- I forget which), which belonged to the dealer. And from there, they pretty much had him.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: gulper2323]
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but isn't it strange how Atlantis shut itself down due to "security reasons" just a couple of weeks before SR was shut down by the FEDs 
They sounded liked like they knew bust was coming, told everyone they had to get their bitcoins out, meaning they were not a scammer, scammers wouldn't do that, they would just shut down and take everything. Anyway I have a friend who gets my packages to his house, if he got busted it wouldn't even be the worst thing that happened to him this week. He's happy with 5 percent of whatever I am getting for the small risk. Also hobos all have ID so they can get government handouts and will sign out a po box and give you the key for a 6 pack. SR had so many users you probably don't need to worry unless you ordered 10 grand in drugs 10 days ago to your house or something crazy. And should you get a knock or call deny fucking everything.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lessismore]
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mio said: True, good I never used my own address :-)
ordered many times to different addresses, never my own, new addr each time
and only personal amount, small qtys :-)
they're gonna have a hard time searching all those places and legal trouble by doing so too probably..
Except they can use your own post as evidence against you.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: NWlight]
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GreenGrassMatt said:
come get me piggies 
don't tempt me 

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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: NWlight]
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I'd like to thank the academy 
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: NWlight]
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I had to show that to my friend
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I messed up the link in my earlier post.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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What they are trying to do is discourage future and past users from continuing the online drug trade. The media will run press releases of police saying "we know who is responsible" and the cops will be able to make a few busts from stupid people (no encryption, storing keys online somewhere). They hope the average person will see this and think "oh powerful government how could I ever be so dumb as to think I could outsmart you!!!".
They have nothing. They may make more arrests than this from people who didnt encrypt their messages, but this is insignificant. The concept of an online anonymous drug trade is something more powerful than any government agency. As long as people utilize and develop technologies to remain anonymous it will exist and thrive, hopefully delivering the final blow in the so called "war on drugs".
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: my3rdeye]
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but isn't it strange how Atlantis shut itself down due to "security reasons" just a couple of weeks before SR was shut down by the FEDs 
They sounded liked like they knew bust was coming, told everyone they had to get their bitcoins out, meaning they were not a scammer, scammers wouldn't do that, they would just shut down and take everything.
It just seems strange to me that they shut down their website due to "security reasons" 2 or 3 weeks before SR get busted.
Did they know the FBI was going to come down and bust these black markets? And if they did know how did Atlantis know and how did SR not know?
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: CidneyIndole]
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If I remember right, supposedly a dog hit on another package, giving a positive signal for drugs, so they opened it. The package did not contain drugs, but rather a large amount of cash (a few grand, I think.. and I thought that part was weird-- why did the dog hit for drugs, if there were no drugs?) That package was addressed to a PO box (or the box was the return-- I forget which), which belonged to the dealer. And from there, they pretty much had him.
Dogs are trained to sniff for cash as well as drugs/guns/explosives etc, common procedure.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: CidneyIndole]
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leon trout said: The agency's director general Keith Bristow said in a statement that other users of the site would soon feel the heat.
"These latest arrests are just the start; there are many more to come," he said.
Few details of the suspects were released. The Crime Agency called them "significant users" of Silk Road and described them as three men in their 20s from the northern English city of Manchester and a man in his 50s from southwestern England.
Emphasis Added.
1- Ouch. I'm really glad right now that I never used silk road.
2- Am I the only one who picked up on the wording above? I wonder if that's significant. notice how they're not talking about a bust of drug dealers. Nowhere is the selling of drugs mentioned in relation to those arrested, and I can't help but wonder if they're going after some customers.
Did that not happen with webtryp, in the UK?
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losfreddy said: So basically they are going after users/sellers who didn't encrypt theyre data.
That's my guess. Low hanging fruit.
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D.M.T said: The guy in Washington selling heroin they busted for instance was using his own PO Box and fake name as a return address and sent packages through express mail. It's likely these guys did something stupid like that too. I never even logged on SR when it was up but I thought I had read somewhere sensitive data like addresses were coded to be automatically encrypted.
Actually, if we're talking about the same case, that's not how that guy got busted. They did get his PO box, but he wasn't dumb enough to use that as a return address for an order. He used random return addresses (real ones), with names that did not match the address. A random package was spotted when they were doing interdiction with a dog. If I remember correctly (I read the whole indictment) they then contacted the persons at the return address, and confirmed that there was no one living there with that name. They said they didn't care if the inspectors opened it, so they did, found drugs, etc.
If I remember right, supposedly a dog hit on another package, giving a positive signal for drugs, so they opened it. The package did not contain drugs, but rather a large amount of cash (a few grand, I think.. and I thought that part was weird-- why did the dog hit for drugs, if there were no drugs?) That package was addressed to a PO box (or the box was the return-- I forget which), which belonged to the dealer. And from there, they pretty much had him.
Yeah I think we're talking about the same guy, 'NOD'. I hadn't read anything past the news articles on Shroomery which didn't give much info so my understanding was a little skewed. Still it would appear to me the fact they were using express mail was what got their packages noticed along with the fake names. Dogs scan express mail a lot better - priority not so much. Dogs are trained to smell cash too. I've heard pigs use the whole 'oh the dog alerted to your cash must be tied to drugs so let's seize it' spiel before when they're trained to smell cash as it is. If that's not enough to make the drug war look like a scam then I don't know what is.
I noticed it said users of Silk Road as well but I would assume these fellows were vendors. Anyone on Silk Road technically could be considered a user, so they threw that in there to scare real users. I mean they could have just been customers, but they seized millions of dollars in BTC from just 4 people which would lead me to think their involvement was not small. So vendor or major user re-selling stuff from SR. Now I never got on SR but I had the impression most of the drugs on there were being sold in small quantities at higher than typical street prices, which would make it seem rather hard to make millions re-selling drugs you got from SR.
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bit coins Seized [Re: egodeathflux]
#18954265 - 10/09/13 12:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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The feds?
Silk road had every major global law enforcement agency and NASA cracking the encryption. Those fucker's are probably having a hay-day.
Spare yourself time behind bars, do not order from anyone unless it's a trusted Tor distributor. There is just as many agents working Tor as there are cops patrolling the streets.
Not to mention, they ran a dummy Silk road site that acted as a proxy between transactions being done on SR. So if you were a new user within the last two years or got the wrong onion address, the chances you're browsing and transaction history was recorded is obvious.
There was also a google re-direct site to "Enter the tor gateway" this was also another monitored proxy site.
Don't get me wrong, the actual exchange of goods and services between clients and sellers is very secure on the sellers end, just not the clients. (If duped by fake-redirect site or entered the .onion via google)
and if you did something as dumb as that, you've got it coming.
Well anyways folks.... As I said in another posting about this, I had my countries equivalent of the FEDS knocking at my home door around the same time they took down Dread and the others. I never sold (thank god) or made a transaction so now I'm left to wonder..... What dumb fuck am I going to punch out for blowing me out of the water with them?
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Re: 4 Silk Road Users Arrested In UK With Millions Of Dollars In Bitcoins Seized [Re: D.M.T]
#18954288 - 10/09/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you bought in bulk you could certainly have made good money selling things to third parties, just had to invest a reasonable amount. Also some things like white heroin just aren't available on the whole in many parts of the world, people would also pay more for real quality, which was one of the more attractive sides to doing business on SR.
I only know people who got small to moderate amounts for personal use, again because of higher quality goods at similar to street prices. Heroin and cocaine in particular tend to suck a lot of the time in the UK, some of the cocaine on SR was well over 60% purity, even stupidly expensive "good" stuff in the UK is rarely over the 15% mark IME.
Also prices around the world vary dramatically, the prices were an average of combined world street prices really, in the right area some things were definitely cheaper on SR.
Good bud in the UK costs around $400+ an ounce now, it's more than doubled in the last 5-6 years, I doubt people in Cali or Colorado are paying anywhere near that for average weed. People are happy to pay $15 for less than a gram of often wet and bog-standard bud, I quit about a year ago after a 15 year daily habit as it was getting more expensive than a heroin habit..
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