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I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show * 1
    #18949164 - 10/08/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The characters are notably mundane and also bland-looking, so I find it hard to develop an appeal to senses, whether cranial or carnal.

The only reasonably interesting and interestingly contributing character were seemingly purposefully killed off, as if to prove the "there is no sacred cow" point, which in the end translated into "there is no interesting show". Shane should still be alive, because he was interesting, smart in a manner, and visually appeasing on screen.
The one-handed racist guy should still be alive because he's interesting, was one of the few characters that delivered flavour and some kind of mental stimulation (just by being so obtuse and hostile, as well as independently motivated).
The old man should still be alive because he gave contrast and was the closest thing to a voice of reason which the group had.

These shouldn't be typifies as "sacred cows", but the sources of interesting dialog and quality scenario handling. Might as well strip the zombies from the show while in pursuit of purging all "sacred cows". After all, they're just a crutch to carry an otherwise supremely boring cast.

This show also has too many uglies collected into one group, as if the casting director has a type they go for, and that type is an ugly. Not hideous, but with unappealing characteristics. It just needs some offsetting, and there isn't that offsetting present. Characters are also excruciatingly boring, for an entertainment medium. They don't have interesting or insightful conversations, they don't do anything amusing...

For audio, I think that the sound production is really bad. Way over-compressed. Shit seems to punch in and out in a very non-discreet and irritating manner

I'll be watching when it resumes, but there have been many terrible design choices executed. I think it will be a good thing for the show that the previous producer or whatever he was, was fired. At least I hope it will be. If there was another whole season of doing dick all, idling at a farm, I think the show would be dumped by its audience.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18949177 - 10/08/13 11:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Ill sum up OPs post for everyone:

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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Nimpo]
    #18949193 - 10/08/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Ill sum up OPs post for everyone:




thanks man.  i got about 4 sentences in before i skipped down to your reply.  glad i did.

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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18949203 - 10/08/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah they strayed too far from the original plot. They fired Frank Darabont after season 1 (directer of Shawshank Redemption, creator of Walking Dead, their best season imo) The characters are boring and I feel no real danger for Rick, his son, Daryl, etc. For instance in like Game of Thrones every single character I have a genuine fear for their safety because that show will kill them off in a second and not give a fuck. TWD is not like that, it's boring and fairly predictable. The season 3 finale was probably one of the worst season finales for a show I've ever seen. Literally almost nothing happens. It sucks but the show definitely became mediocre. Season 2 was like slow torture week to week. There is just soooo muuucchhh emotional drama bullshit in that show between characters, you just end up hating them. They lost two of their best actors (Shane and the old guy who's name I can't remember) too, so that didn't help. The show just lacks any sense of the apocalypse, it doesn't feel dangerous and there is no consistency. Characters will have super awesome aiming one scene and then miss a shot the next. It's just a clusterfuck.

AMC itself is a shitty channel that wasn't ready for the big times when their shows exploded (Mad Men, Breaking Bad). They fired like 3 or 4 showrunners now for TWD. The next guy directed the best episode of season 3 imo when they find the crazy black guy from season 1 again, so there is hope. And the show does have some really cool scenes and awesome makeup effect shit. There is hope, but I'm not hopeful.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: gzuf]
    #18949253 - 10/08/13 11:53 AM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Way way to far away from the comic.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: noiz] * 1
    #18949303 - 10/08/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Fuck the comic, it's still a good show.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: gzuf] * 2
    #18949304 - 10/08/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

AMC is notorious for cutting budgets on even successful shows like TWD.  If they'd've kept Darabont on the show, it would have been way better.  But honestly I'm glad he walked away because he wouldn't let the AMC budget cuts water down his vision so his integrity as a writer/director whatever is more important to him than anything and I respect that more than someone just falling into line to ride the gravy train.

I like zombie lore and there's little else to get my zombie fix that I haven't seen already.  That and it's an October tradition for me like when the weather gets nice and my favorite holiday is approaching TWD is on every Sunday it just all goes together.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: abltsandwich] * 2
    #18949325 - 10/08/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The walking dead is too slow paced for my liking.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Legend]
    #18949409 - 10/08/13 12:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just started season 3 because it finally came on netflix. so far
im pretty impressed on how they do things but im only on like episode 4. If they keep it up from where i am i think it will be just fine.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: dark hippy]
    #18949417 - 10/08/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I just started season 3 because it finally came on netflix. so far
im pretty impressed on how they do things but im only on like episode 4. If they keep it up from where i am i think it will be just fine.



i remember when we watched the first season high as fuck

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i just couldn't get into the second season, sucha slow start!


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: dark hippy]
    #18949419 - 10/08/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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AMC is notorious for cutting budgets on even successful shows like TWD.  If they'd've kept Darabont on the show, it would have been way better.  But honestly I'm glad he walked away because he wouldn't let the AMC budget cuts water down his vision so his integrity as a writer/director whatever is more important to him than anything and I respect that more than someone just falling into line to ride the gravy train.

I like zombie lore and there's little else to get my zombie fix that I haven't seen already.  That and it's an October tradition for me like when the weather gets nice and my favorite holiday is approaching TWD is on every Sunday it just all goes together.




:rockon: Yeah agreed. Darabont is a badass. I'll still watch it I'm sure, but I wont be rushing home for TWD on Sundays or anything. I'm just kinda meh at this point.

You netflix people are kind of lucky. I could see how it'd be a lot better in one shot without week to week wait and shit.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18949430 - 10/08/13 12:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The first season was good, but after that, it fell off dramatically.  All that time at the farm was just worthless filler that was almost, but not entirely, unlike a show about zombies.

The prison stuff was slightly better, but by that time, they already killed off everyone interesting.  Daryl is okay, but he can't carry the show.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Enlil]
    #18949454 - 10/08/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

last season was incredibly painful to watch.

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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Nimpo]
    #18949465 - 10/08/13 12:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Question: What part of the "I think" in the title presented itself as fact, rather than opinion? I'll sum up your post for everyone:

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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: gzuf]
    #18949487 - 10/08/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The season 3 finale was probably one of the worst season finales for a show I've ever seen. Literally almost nothing happens.



I didn't even know that it was a finale until there was no show the following week. Then I had to check the previous episode to see if it really was one that I'd watched, because I didn't think there was any way that it was a finale. But, I guess that for a show in which nothing happens, an episode where nothing happens caps it all off pretty well.

I found it pretty funny when the T-dawg actor said in interview that we could expect a lot more TD action coming up, and then he just died. That was probably my highest source of entertainment from the 3rd season.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18949867 - 10/08/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I only saw a few episodes of the walking dead was alright but it is slow pace
its hard for me to get into any t.v shows nowadays but I still watch it sometimes


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18949948 - 10/08/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's a little too clean (verbally + sexually) and sometimes melodramatic, but overall I still think it's a good show. I'm looking forward to the start of S4.


Also, OP, how is your biggest complaint that the characters aren't "visually appealing" enough? Do you WANT them to all look like silly hot JC-penny models? Doesn't the thought of that seem annoying to you?

I think that having a lot of average looking characters and not giving them all silly fucking lipstick during the apocalypse them is a good thing.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Synthe]
    #18949975 - 10/08/13 02:52 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I just wished the episodes were more jam packed with action.  Last season there was some BORING shit going on. Rick being all crazy and emotional - omg that was drawn out I wanted to kill him myself.

Im hoping this season will be a good one though


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Herbologist]
    #18950032 - 10/08/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

The first season was great but it has become a guilty pleasure. I still enjoy it because I followed it, but I can tell that it started to suck


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #18950065 - 10/08/13 03:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think it's gone way downhill.

Will still watch the fourth season for cheap entertainment though


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: chutney]
    #18950070 - 10/08/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I think it's gone way downhill.

Will still watch the fourth season for cheap entertainment though



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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18950448 - 10/08/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It is an awesome premise, but I thought the acting and storyline were kind of weak.  I really like zombie movies too, but it never really grabbed me.  I tried to like it too.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: fapjack]
    #18950651 - 10/08/13 05:29 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I think I'm the only one who thinks the show improved. The first season was so boring I barely made it through it, there was almost zero action and all they did was talk about their feelings and their emotions, it was awful. I was so thrilled when they killed people off because I absolutely couldn't stand almost any of the characters. Andrea should've died in like episode 2 and Shane took way too long to die. I really only kept watching it because I like zombie shit. As the seasons move on there's (usually) more zombie action, more gore, etc. The first few episodes of this last season had almost no dialogue, it was great. I'm sure my love of people is showing right now.

I'll readily admit, though, that the comic and the show are intended by their creators to be more about humans trying to make it in the apocalypse rather than about zombies, so in that aspect I guess they did a great job in the first season, and you guys are probably right in regards to what the creators were going for.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: TalesfromtheTrypt]
    #18950664 - 10/08/13 05:31 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, you're not even watching the same show as the rest of us.  The first season had tons of zombies.  The second season had maybe a dozen zombies total until the last episode.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Synthe]
    #18950717 - 10/08/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

It's not my biggest complaint, but it's noteworthy since the show has little else carrying it, and since all the cast are unnaturally pretty evenly bland-looking. By good looking, I don't mean sex symbol status, but someone more than a 50% or so, with some interesting visual appeal. I think Shane had some visual appeal and a unique look, and probably was the only one, imo.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Enlil]
    #18950733 - 10/08/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

What are you talking about? Except for the first couple of episodes showing Atlanta, the whole first season took place in a campsite full of emotional, whiny bitches. The only zombies they showed were the ones that finally showed up to shut some of those assholes up for us.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18950741 - 10/08/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

How can you not think Beth Greene is hot?


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: TalesfromtheTrypt]
    #18950766 - 10/08/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What are you talking about? Except for the first couple of episodes showing Atlanta, the whole first season took place in a campsite full of emotional, whiny bitches. The only zombies they showed were the ones that finally showed up to shut some of those assholes up for us.



The first season had 6 episodes and something like 60 zombie kills.  The second season had 19 episodes and about 130 kills...most of which were in the last two episodes.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Herbologist]
    #18950821 - 10/08/13 06:03 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I just wished the episodes were more jam packed with action.  Last season there was some BORING shit going on. Rick being all crazy and emotional - omg that was drawn out I wanted to kill him myself.



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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Global_Roaming]
    #18950835 - 10/08/13 06:06 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

This last season was a bit slow, but God damn I'm excited for this season.

I mean the basic episode outline:

*finish up the previous episodes mess - 7 minutes (1 commercial)
*bore you to death - 47 minutes (7 commercials)
*start some crazy shit and leave you with a cliffhanger- 5 minutes (1 commercial)

So I can see where people don't like it very much, but it does the post-apocalyptic zombie thing quite well for an hour long show.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Enlil]
    #18950847 - 10/08/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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The first season had 6 episodes and something like 60 zombie kills.  The second season had 19 episodes and about 130 kills...most of which were in the last two episodes.




And most of those zombie kills in season 1 were in a few episodes too. Granted, it had some cool scenes like the zombie intestine overcoat, it was the only thing that kept me watching, everything in between was garbage. I didn't say season 2 was good, it still had way way too much dialogue and not enough zombies, the point is in season 1 you have a bunch of bleeding heart pussies that can't make any of the tough decisions that need to be made, busy crying about missing hot showers or some shit, and by season 3 they're living in a prison and barely speaking. Huge improvement in my eyes, but to each his own.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: TalesfromtheTrypt]
    #18950856 - 10/08/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Season 1 only had a few episodes.  Season 2 had over three times as many episodes, most of which didn't even have a zombie kill in them.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Enlil]
    #18950867 - 10/08/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Season 1 only had a few episodes.  Season 2 had over three times as many episodes, most of which didn't even have a zombie kill in them.





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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: TalesfromtheTrypt]
    #18950872 - 10/08/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

My memory is pretty shitty, but from what I remember the non-zombie part of the show I liked most was that the survivors who wouldn't get with the program of what it means to survive in the apocalypse were all killed off by the end of the 2nd season. I think I just reconciled the whole thing by looking at it like the first 2 seasons were just about turning the group into actual survivors. Have you ever seen The Road? That's how the non-zombie parts should be.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Enlil]
    #18950880 - 10/08/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Season 1 only had a few episodes.  Season 2 had over three times as many episodes, most of which didn't even have a zombie kill in them.




Actually the formula is that every shitty episode has exactly 1 zombie kill, sometimes 2. They make sure to have at least 1 so we don't stop watching altogether.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: something cool]
    #18950890 - 10/08/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I watched the first 2 seasons of this show for two reasons: "Finally! A TV show about zombies. And it's produced by AMC!"

I'm not crazy about the direction the show took, and that's why i'm not watching anymore. AMC is bound to have a bunch of shows that nobody likes, because everyone is expecting a Breaking Bad caliber show from them now.


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: RockyRaccoon]
    #18950931 - 10/08/13 06:23 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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I watched the first 2 seasons of this show for two reasons: "Finally! A TV show about zombies. And it's produced by AMC!"

I'm not crazy about the direction the show took, and that's why i'm not watching anymore. AMC is bound to have a bunch of shows that nobody likes, because everyone is expecting a Breaking Bad caliber show from them now.





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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18950940 - 10/08/13 06:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Mad Men is a great show :grin:

I've only watched what is currently available on netflix, and liked what I saw. Hell on wheels isn't half bad either.


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    #18950951 - 10/08/13 06:27 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

From what I've seen of Hell on Wheels and Low Winter Sun, I've liked, but they seem like shows that I should marathon instead of watching week to week.

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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18950996 - 10/08/13 06:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Mush4Brains said:
From what I've seen of Hell on Wheels and Low Winter Sun, I've liked, but they seem like shows that I should marathon instead of watching week to week.

Do they have season 6 of Mad Men on Netflix yet?




I'm not sure. I don't believe so though. I haven't seen any of Low Winter Sun yet. Just didn't seem like my kind of show :shrug:

But i agree with you about watching hell on wheels in a marathon. That's why generally I wait for shows to come out on netflix to watch em. (With the exception of breaking bad.)


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Re: I think Walking Dead is pretty much a shit show [Re: TalesfromtheTrypt]
    #18951523 - 10/08/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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What are you talking about? Except for the first couple of episodes showing Atlanta, the whole first season took place in a campsite full of emotional, whiny bitches. The only zombies they showed were the ones that finally showed up to shut some of those assholes up for us.




Strange you say that. I thought season 2 was like a zombie soap opera in comparison to the rest of the series. It was just them on a farm with all their dramatic interactions between herschel and the new crew. then shane and lauri and the baby drama. It felt like it was a bridge season more than anything. Trying to build some character background for later, but not a whole lot of action. I think season 3 is not so bad, it just got jaded after season 2 imo

Now im definitely still going to watch season 4 for... as someone above said... cheap entertainment.


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