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FunnyLight
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MagicEngineer said: Magic Maker 5000 in action, Alacabenzi
  
Where's all the gas inlets and shiiiz?
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twistedty
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: x CiVil x]
#18951498 - 10/08/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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x CiVil x said: Theres a couple reasons they should not be stacked. But depending on your situation you may haft to.
#1. Sacking tubs make it really hard to fan and mist.
#2. After a few grows, the bottom of your tubs will begin to warp. On top of that you haft to move your tubs to fan and mist. Leading to cracking your substrate when setting it down. If you crack the substrate it becomes very contamination pron.
#3. Once tubs start warping, the lids will as well. This will cause the tubs lid to drip in the center of your substrate. Making it hard to colonize by the time its ready to fruit. This can also lead to contamination.
Cheers
the only thing i that cracks my subs is when i dont place it on flat counter to harvest. and the major pita is the rotation to fan and mist the 2x a day. sucks big cock for sure, but man do i pump out some boomers
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MagicEngineer
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FunnyLight said:
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MagicEngineer said: Magic Maker 5000 in action, Alacabenzi
  
Where's all the gas inlets and shiiiz?
only had them in the cover at this point sides added latter
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PussyFart
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: x CiVil x]
#18951529 - 10/08/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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x CiVil x said: Theres a couple reasons they should not be stacked. But depending on your situation you may haft to.
#1. Sacking tubs make it really hard to fan and mist.
#2. After a few grows, the bottom of your tubs will begin to warp. On top of that you haft to move your tubs to fan and mist. Leading to cracking your substrate when setting it down. If you crack the substrate it becomes very contamination pron.
#3. Once tubs start warping, the lids will as well. This will cause the tubs lid to drip in the center of your substrate. Making it hard to colonize by the time its ready to fruit. This can also lead to contamination.
Cheers
#1. Monotubs are meant to be set and forget...no misting/fanning required.
#2. Get better tubs...this is not that much weight....My tubs have been thru at least 7 grows each...every one just as strong as the day I got them.
#3. Look at #2......
#4. ?
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: PussyFart]
#18951543 - 10/08/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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twistedty
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: PussyFart]
#18952259 - 10/08/13 10:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
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x CiVil x said: Theres a couple reasons they should not be stacked. But depending on your situation you may haft to.
#1. Sacking tubs make it really hard to fan and mist.
#2. After a few grows, the bottom of your tubs will begin to warp. On top of that you haft to move your tubs to fan and mist. Leading to cracking your substrate when setting it down. If you crack the substrate it becomes very contamination pron.
#3. Once tubs start warping, the lids will as well. This will cause the tubs lid to drip in the center of your substrate. Making it hard to colonize by the time its ready to fruit. This can also lead to contamination.
Cheers
#1. Monotubs are meant to be set and forget...no misting/fanning required.
#2. Get better tubs...this is not that much weight....My tubs have been thru at least 7 grows each...every one just as strong as the day I got them.
#3. Look at #2......
#4. ?
i still fan mine at least once a day but have definetly left them be for days and came home to alot of flipping work to do
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PussyFart
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: twistedty]
#18952336 - 10/08/13 11:17 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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twistedty said: i still fan mine at least once a day but have definetly left them be for days and came home to alot of flipping work to do
Pack your holes tighter.
There is no need for additional water before the first flush, it should contain all it needs to yield every bit of 8 ounces.
Monotubs should be set and forget, until after the first flush at least, this is why we dial them in .
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Edited by PussyFart (10/08/13 11:17 PM)
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WhoManBeing
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: PussyFart]
#18952374 - 10/08/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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geez la.weez. never found pulling back the plastic topping off the busboy bin too difficult a task to fan and mist.
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: x CiVil x]
#18952464 - 10/08/13 11:57 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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x CiVil x said: Theres a couple reasons they should not be stacked. But depending on your situation you may haft to.
#1. Sacking tubs make it really hard to fan and mist.
#2. After a few grows, the bottom of your tubs will begin to warp. On top of that you haft to move your tubs to fan and mist. Leading to cracking your substrate when setting it down. If you crack the substrate it becomes very contamination pron.
#3. Once tubs start warping, the lids will as well. This will cause the tubs lid to drip in the center of your substrate. Making it hard to colonize by the time its ready to fruit. This can also lead to contamination.
There is no way you have actually tested this, unless you have bought the flimsiest tubs you can find.
My 66qts are stacked 4 high every grow for the last 2 years. They get run every other month on average. Every one of them is perfectly fine.
Also, monos are set-n-forget if they are dialed in, as hacker mentioned. But if you want to mist and fan, moving the tubs a bit to do so is not very hard 
edit: I forgot to mention, the solution for cracking substrates is to place a ring (from a quart jar) underneath each corner of the bottom tub. My tubs are always stacked like this and I never, ever have a crack in my substrate any more.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (10/09/13 12:02 AM)
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twistedty
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aye i never have to worry about misting during first flush. i just fan them out because they like it
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: twistedty]
#18952936 - 10/09/13 05:59 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I guess I've never tested it Frank. You know me to well.... 
You're right, the cheaper the tub, the faster they warp. But all my hefty tubs did it as well after 4 grows the lids would drip in the center of my substrate and cause it not to colonize. They would also bow downward in the shape of the warped lid. Hefty storage solutions aren't cheap tubs to me. Stack your tubs all you want...
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Edited by x CiVil x (10/09/13 06:17 AM)
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PussyFart
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: x CiVil x]
#18952959 - 10/09/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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x CiVil x said: You guys probably think setting your tubs on the floor is a good idea too. Just saying.
If the substrate was spawned in open air, and is now fully colonized and contam resistant...being close to the floor bothers me none...it had it's chance to contam....it chose not to.....Just sayin.
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: PussyFart]
#18952971 - 10/09/13 06:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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I was editing that out when you posted. Lol. I dont care what you guys do. Have fun, that's all that matters.
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: x CiVil x]
#18953425 - 10/09/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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quit hijacking the thread with practical tips. this thread is about useless, overcomplicated tinkering.
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MagicEngineer
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Re: Magic Maker 5000 [Re: Me_Roy]
#18953430 - 10/09/13 09:33 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Me_Roy said: quit hijacking the thread with practical tips. this thread is about useless, overcomplicated tinkering.
someone understands
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