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LSDizzle
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x50 Salvia Breakthrough(?)
#18948456 - 10/08/13 07:37 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well basically, this was my first experience smoking salvia (i am partially experienced with psychedelics)
My friend had quite a bit of spare money, so we decided to go to our local legal high shop and buy a gram of x50 salvia. We were stupid enough to find the nearest shady spot to have a bong. This place we were in was an abandonded seating area type place with graffiti laced all over every wall. My friend wanted me to go first, so me being stupid, I packed the bowl of his bubbly, and took the hit. My forehead felt cold and empty, But this wasn't enough, so I packed the bowl again (this time with more) and took another hit. At this point i was gone, i started walking in a straight line towards the bright light at the end of the snicket. Then suddenly my body felt like it was being thrusted left and right, up and down with tremendous force, i couldn't controll it. The I fell to the ground and everything went bright white, and I mean everything. I lost all sense of reality and I wasn't in the same place as I was when i took the hit. In this white place i was floating around, but without a body, or an ego. In this white place a huge pattern manifested itself onto what seemed like this places floor. I then got sucked into the pattern and all i remember was my own mind screaming 'Help, and No!'. The rest was a blur and im still getting flashbacks to this day (a couple of week after)The intense fear I felt whilst in this 'place' was just unreal. A different type of fear, i felt like I was eternally trapped, and everything that has startled me since, gives me a flashback. It changed me, but I can't tell whether that's a good thing. Was this a breakthrough?
i'm definately going to smoke salvia again, i would love to get used to visiting this place.
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psychedelicz
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Re: x50 Salvia Breakthrough(?) [Re: LSDizzle]
#19402178 - 01/11/14 02:59 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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Iv been searching around a while on the net, this is the first post that describes my first time last night with x50 extract. That intense and unreal fear, being trapped in another place.
Although i was with a few people, and we didnt expect it to kick like it did. So when i came around they were asking me a bunch of questions, they were concerned. Apparently this is not the way to do it. I was fine, just a bit shocked. Taken copious amounts of other psychedelics but nothing has ever done that! Felt like my soul and consciousness was being taken from me, it was over and i was going to die. Today i kind of remember some of the things that went through my mind, How is this possible? Im human, im conscious, they cant do this? In my mind i was referring to "them" as if there were some kind of entity doing this to me.
When i came back i grabbed my girlfriends hand and started asking her what this was, what was going on, if i was back, if this was real. I vaguely remember What she was saying, but i do remember the overwhelming feeling that she was one of "them" and her words of comfort were to convince me that iv just smoked salvia and its okay to just let "it" take me.
Crazy stuff, and today i feel different. My mindset is different but i dont know how. I woke up and finished some coding on a website i had been struggling with, i guess i could say my creativity and logic were up a little bit.
Anyway, just thought id post my experience here, for anyone seeking the same answers.
Definitely going to smoke again, and follow some of the guidelines on this page http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18723870#18723870
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ShroomyBudz
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My only experience with salvia wasn't a breakthrough experience but I did feel my body being pulled in different directions like you described.. Interesting..
Makes me want to give it another go!
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Re: x50 Salvia Breakthrough(?) [Re: ShroomyBudz]
#19402390 - 01/11/14 04:53 AM (10 years, 20 days ago) |
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why do people think that being immersed in fear is a breakthrough.
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JacksonMetaller
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It gives you flashbacks and was a horrifying experience but you want to go back? Lol your post may have just scared me away from it
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psychedelicz
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I wouldnt call it a breakthrough at all, just a very intense/unreal/spiritual/scary experience.
But from what iv read the circumstances in which you smoke the salvia are very important. I just hit a big bowl standing up not expecting to fall over lol. Starting the trip with a massive thud had a huge impact im sure.
And i'll definitely do it again, would love to gain some kind of control in this other place salvia takes your mind.
Edited by psychedelicz (01/11/14 10:56 AM)
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lessismore
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: why do people think that being immersed in fear is a breakthrough.
why do people have to ask others if what they experienced was a breakthrough :-)
I like salvia rarely, it must be respected, it is almost like a level5 trip each time..
feeling trapped etc. is normal the first few times, you learn to let go try laying down instead... and dont expect anything, dont just take a huge dose
take the minimum dose you need to get to where you want (know your dose), thats is how I trip
I wouldnt buy over 20x personally, 20x can be plenty intense would rather smoke leaves with reverse tolerance, or chew them - but dont have a plant currently
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Re: x50 Salvia Breakthrough(?) [Re: lessismore]
#19404222 - 01/11/14 02:52 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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why do people have to ask others if what they experienced was a breakthrough :-)
I like salvia rarely, it must be respected, it is almost like a level5 trip each time..
feeling trapped etc. is normal the first few times, you learn to let go try laying down instead... and dont expect anything, dont just take a huge dose
take the minimum dose you need to get to where you want (know your dose), thats is how I trip
I wouldnt buy over 20x personally, 20x can be plenty intense would rather smoke leaves with reverse tolerance, or chew them - but dont have a plant currently
I totally agree with you. The last few trips I had were much more interesting than what I've experienced the first few times. I had a rather startling time-loop experience once, but I realized that in fact I always have this experience, its just not that apparent all the time, because I'm learning to let go, to not to try analyze the situation and expect miracles. (They come on their own ) I also find the 20x extract quite enough for an intense trip and a nice visual come-down.
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Re: x50 Salvia Breakthrough(?) [Re: lessismore]
#19404383 - 01/11/14 03:34 PM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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What I remember from my (supposed) salvia breakthrough was struggling to fight my way back to reality, it was damn hard work, and this was after I had been knocked unconscious by the drug, fully describing the fear and confusion totally defeats me. I remember feeling that salvia had tricked me, or that it had me believing that everything was an illusion and that really it's only salvia land that's real, or that salvia had let me glimpse an underling reality that our waking day one rests upon. like OP I fear it and yet I'm compelled to try again, I still wonder if I did break through.
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