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LSA and the law in Canada
    #18946601 - 10/07/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

In Canada, LSA is not a controlled substance under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.
So would that mean that it is legal for someone to be tripping on LSA in public? As far as I am aware there haven't been any cases regarding LSA in Canada.



(doing LSA in public is an extreme example, I will never do anything which could lead to it becoming a controlled substance)


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18946742 - 10/07/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

How could u convince them you are on lsa and not lsd


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #18946852 - 10/07/13 09:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

That's a good point, but you could state to LE that you have taken LSA and offer to give to drug test, which would ultimately only inconvenience you. (unless if you recently have smoked weed lol)


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18946994 - 10/07/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's illegal to be intoxicated on LSA.

One reason why you don't hear about it: the side-effects are displeasing. Much better alternatives out there.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18948268 - 10/08/13 05:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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SkeletalSpore said:
That's a good point, but you could state to LE that you have taken LSA and offer to give to drug test, which would ultimately only inconvenience you. (unless if you recently have smoked weed lol)



Dont think lsd or lsa will show in drug test anyway


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: Cavemen]
    #18950699 - 10/08/13 05:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am aware about the nausea and cramps LSA gives, but in my opinion the pros outweigh the cons.
Can you please direct me to a source on where it says it's illegal to be intoxicated on LSA? Or any other "legal high" for that matter.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: ImFukNCLUELESS]
    #18950726 - 10/08/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

From what I have read LSD can be found in urine within 8-12 hours, blood within 3 hours, saliva for 3 days, and hair for up to 90.
Different sources have varying times, but none of them say that it can't be tested.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18951026 - 10/08/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'm almost positive you will not get in any trouble as long as you don't have drugs or anything illegal on you.

I really don't see what you could be charged with... maybe public intoxication if you are making an ass out of yourself or being a nuisance, but other than that as long as you're not carrying your good. It doesn't matter if they see your pupils are massively dilated, they can't charge you for that. And they're certainly not gonna pay for expense ass drug tests for obscure psychedelics like  LSA, especially if you just got arrested for a public intox type thing. I know this isn't what your looking for cause I cant provide any sources but I'm lazy and not gonna look into it for you. This can't be too hard to find out for sure though

You should be good but just curious are you talking about tripping in public, or tripping in public but at a private event like an art show or something?


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: chutney]
    #18961154 - 10/10/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

thanks, that`s exactly what I needed. (:


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18961192 - 10/10/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Um, in extreme cases you could be charged under the UN Convention on Psychotropic Substances which makes LSA illegal because of its very similar make up compared to LSD.

Also I believe all ergot alkaloids are illegal under the Precursor Control Act in Canada. So even though its not technically stated as illegal in Drugs and Substance Act you may be charged as having a precursor.

Extreme cases maybe.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: Zombi3]
    #18962691 - 10/11/13 05:58 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Public intoxication is an offense in most provinces, SkeletalSpore, but that may only apply to alcohol use. Either way, I wouldn't want to attract any unwanted attention from civilians or LE officers. You might cause a disturbance if things go awry.

It's best to only use psychedelics in private locations, and that goes without saying.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: Zombi3]
    #18967823 - 10/12/13 10:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I am fairly certain that for the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act in Canada it states that LSA is not a controlled substance. I think I got the answer I was looking for though, thanks!


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: SkeletalSpore]
    #18968353 - 10/12/13 01:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/substancontrol/chem-chim/international-eng.php

Illegal precursor:

- Ergometrine and its salts
- Ergotamine and its salts
- Lysergic acid and its salts

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/C-38.8.pdf

Schedule VI controlled substance:

- Ergometrine and its salts
- Ergotamine and its salts
- Lysergic and its salts

http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw_info1.shtml

Major Alkaloid Content in the seeds of A. nervosa(Burm. f.) Bojer

[snip] % of Total alkaloid % dry seed weight
Ergine 22.68 0.136
Isoergine 31.36 0.188
Ergometrine 8.20 0.049
Lys. alpha-OH-ethylamide 5.79 0.035
IsoLys. || 3.98 0.024

LSA itself may not be illegal, unless it is considered a salt of lysergic acid, and since its name is lysergic acid amide I presume that makes it illegal. However, even if LSA is legal, ergometrine is certainly not. Your seeds do contain at very least one illegal substance, ergometrine.


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Re: LSA and the law in Canada [Re: Zombi3]
    #18998383 - 10/19/13 02:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Nowhere in the Controlled drugs and substances act does it say it is a crime to be under the influence of an illegal drug. Possession is crime, selling is a crime, seeking to obtain it is a crime. Being under the influence is only a crime when driving or operation of heavy machinary.
Therefore it never nessicary to determine if you are high on a legal or illegal drug. If you are driving both are a crime, if you are walking both are legal.
If you are acting crazy or causing a disturbance the police can arrest you even if you are sober. But being under influnce of a drug is not a crime in Canada.


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