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Eclipse3130
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How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms?
#18945984 - 10/07/13 05:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have been searching for the past 3 days now, each day I spent 5 hours searching. I have been through over 10 large pastures, and 5 large pastures with cows grazing, dung everywhere and fresh green grass.
The temperatures on average were 60 degrees up here in the west coast in Washington the past 3 days, and good rainfall amounts each night.
I was specifically looking for Liberty Caps, Stuntzii, Azurecens and Cyanescens.
I found countless, hundreds of species, but none seemed to match the description of any of the ones I was looking for, there was many many mushrooms in the cow pastures, especially growing near and around dung, but none of them looked anything like what I was looking for.
What should I be doing differently? I usually go out in the early morning about 8-10 A.M when it's still dewey out.
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Ganzig
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#18946012 - 10/07/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
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smandrew68
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#18946029 - 10/07/13 06:10 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have the same question! I've been looking for years, first in Olympia (early 90s) and since '99 in Portland. It has been a long dry spell! Sometimes I think they're right in front of me and I'm just missing them somehow.
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Ganzig
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: smandrew68]
#18946041 - 10/07/13 06:12 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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They have to be because they are in all of those places.
You must be doing it wrong then.
Just keep looking in woodchips and you WILL find them.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Ganzig]
#18946048 - 10/07/13 06:14 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ganzig said: You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
Damn. I just don't want to buy them because I think the experience will be better if I pick my own, much like growing your own Marijuana, the experience is better when smoked.
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#18946058 - 10/07/13 06:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said:
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Ganzig said: You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
Damn. I just don't want to buy them because I think the experience will be better if I pick my own, much like growing your own Marijuana, the experience is better when smoked.
grow your own shrooms?
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Eclipse3130
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#18946066 - 10/07/13 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can recall 2 large fields which had absolutely no mushrooms in them. They looked like an awesome pasture for mushroom growth, a lot of shady areas and high humidity. I spent about an hour in each one with no success.
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Ganzig]
#18946069 - 10/07/13 06:18 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im having trouble finding libs too and its frustrating! I also think theres certain areas in the field you have to look.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Tyrion]
#18946074 - 10/07/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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grow your own shrooms?
Don't want to get that into it. When it's readily available in the wild.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Ganzig]
#18946077 - 10/07/13 06:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just keep looking in woodchips and you WILL find them.
For what species?
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Tyrion]
#18946081 - 10/07/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Or just study hard(use the shroomery of course)and you will find what you are looking for. Worked for me.
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Eclipse3130
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Blue-FunGuy]
#18946105 - 10/07/13 06:24 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will definitely keep going out, I am determined and I don't really care how long it takes. I know the wait will be well worth it! It's fun anyway to search, even if you don't find anything you get out in the wild.
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
Edited by Eclipse3130 (10/07/13 06:25 PM)
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ambc
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#18946129 - 10/07/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Eclipse3130 said:
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Ganzig said: You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
Damn. I just don't want to buy them because I think the experience will be better if I pick my own, much like growing your own Marijuana, the experience is better when smoked.
That's about how long it took for me too.
You could always grow mushrooms too.
Really I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to eat wild mushrooms that they harvest until they have a decent amount of experience identifying wild mushrooms of various genera. Experience makes it less likely that features of a mushroom will be overlooked or that they will be mistaken, for example the darkening of some Galerina stems for bluing(this has happened, with deadly consequences). So I think it's good for it to take at least 2 or 3 years to find any actives.
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MycoMen
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: ambc]
#18946230 - 10/07/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get the book "Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World" by Stamets and Weil, that's a pretty good guide of what to look for when looking for psychoactives.
A trained eye is a huge advantage when trying to find mushrooms, and as with all things, practice makes perfect. The longer you do this, the more mushrooms you'll notice. Hunting for edibles is a great way to get that sort of training, and certainly less frustrating than starting out looking for Psilocybe spp. (which are fairly hard to spot as compared to, say, B. edulis or chanterelles).
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jet li
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: smandrew68]
#18946251 - 10/07/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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smandrew68 said: Sometimes I think they're right in front of me and I'm just missing them somehow.
That is very possible. Once you know what they smell like, it's easier to find a general location. I found two small patches today, in spots I would have never spent any energy on, except I smelled them. I knew there was at least mycelium in the area, because of the smell.
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Ganzig
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: jet li]
#18946316 - 10/07/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blue-FunGuy said: Or just study hard(use the shroomery of course)and you will find what you are looking for. Worked for me.
Yup. Also, go after all mushrooms that you find and collect them and try to ID them yourself. It will make the whole experience much more fun and enlightening.
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smandrew68 said: Sometimes I think they're right in front of me and I'm just missing them somehow.
That is very possible. Once you know what they smell like, it's easier to find a general location. I found two small patches today, in spots I would have never spent any energy on, except I smelled them. I knew there was at least mycelium in the area, because of the smell.
I love when I smell em. I can smell chants too!
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: ambc]
#18946321 - 10/07/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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ambc said:
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Eclipse3130 said:
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Ganzig said: You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
Damn. I just don't want to buy them because I think the experience will be better if I pick my own, much like growing your own Marijuana, the experience is better when smoked.
That's about how long it took for me too.
You could always grow mushrooms too.
Really I don't think it's a good idea for anyone to eat wild mushrooms that they harvest until they have a decent amount of experience identifying wild mushrooms of various genera. Experience makes it less likely that features of a mushroom will be overlooked or that they will be mistaken, for example the darkening of some Galerina stems for bluing(this has happened, with deadly consequences). So I think it's good for it to take at least 2 or 3 years to find any actives.
This. You should approach the hobby holistically: get a locally focused guidebook, learn some common edibles and get used to identifying as much of what you can find, post IDs here and get feedback on your IDs. Watch ID requests in the MH&I forum and the photo threads by other members with IDs and learn to identify mushrooms to genus in the common genera. Study all the psychoactive species common to your area and their poisonous lookalikes. In the course of your mushroom hunting career, you will eventually just stumble upon some psilocybe or other active species, if you've done your research, you will know exactly what they are when you find them and rejoice. I found some completely accidentally while looking for edibles 1 year after I started the mushroom collecting hobby in earnest. If you go out looking for actives arms with only a precursory knowledge, not only will you annoy the people on this forum with bad ID requests, you might endanger your own life with a poor ID and you will be looking for love in all the wrong places while you pass by a plethora of good edibles.
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Ganzig]
#18947042 - 10/07/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ganzig said: You are doing it right. Just keep looking.
Took me 3 seasons to find Cyans.
Mushroom hunters dont keep track of time in years, months, or days. Instead there are only seasons, hunts, and not hunts.
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Ganzig
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: DCart]
#18947046 - 10/07/13 09:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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not hunts, lol!
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HarryL
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Re: How long does it take to find Hallucinogenic Mushrooms? [Re: Ganzig]
#18947207 - 10/07/13 10:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Liberty caps are the only mushroom you will find in fields Not all fields will have liberty caps ...
You might need to look farther west... Also make sure you know what habitat is right for the mushrooms you are searching for...
Cyans are wood lover.... Give it about 2 weeks and they will be all over the place
Azures really grow in a limited area on the coast though some folks are trying to get them to grow inland. Stuntzii are like where ever they wanna grow....
Ps... Fall mushrooms tend to like cooler weather
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